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(02-14-2017 02:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
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(02-14-2017 01:44 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
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(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools.

I really doubt there's a big plaque hanging in the U of ID president's office that says "Official Flagship University of the state of Idaho". And even if there was one, what does it matter?? Idaho gets less money from the state than Boise does, already.


Boise is a junior college, when it comes to research and academics, compared to Idaho and Washington State.

Thank you for tackling this for me. Buncha goofballs on message boards keep thinking you can just hang a "flagship" sign in front of the BSU campus and problem solved. The truth is, we are light years ahead of them academically and it would take a ridiculous investment for them to catch up. Idaho isn't really in the business of making ridiculous investments in education.

Why would it be ridiculous to invest in the state university that is in the part of the state where people actually live? Thw Boise area has grown to 600k+ people. Moscow has 25k. Nobody wants to move or travel to Moscow. Its a remote part of the state and Washington St University already has the area covered anyway Whats the point of having the #1 school in Idaho there? history? Stupid pride? Its not worth it. Time to do the state a favor and demote the school just like they demoted the football team.

So Illinois should move to Chicago.
Alabama to Birmingham.
Get Kansas out of Lawrence. Too Small
Penn State in State College? Sad.
Clemson? Move the college to Charleston.

And let's merge Iowa State and Iowa, move them to Des Moines.

Sound. I don't know why we ever bothered to try to educate those rubes out in the sticks. Their free ride ends now.
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RE: Idaho Asking State for Athletic Dept. Bailout
(02-14-2017 02:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 02:11 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 01:44 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 11:43 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools.

I really doubt there's a big plaque hanging in the U of ID president's office that says "Official Flagship University of the state of Idaho". And even if there was one, what does it matter?? Idaho gets less money from the state than Boise does, already.


Boise is a junior college, when it comes to research and academics, compared to Idaho and Washington State.

Thank you for tackling this for me. Buncha goofballs on message boards keep thinking you can just hang a "flagship" sign in front of the BSU campus and problem solved. The truth is, we are light years ahead of them academically and it would take a ridiculous investment for them to catch up. Idaho isn't really in the business of making ridiculous investments in education.

Why would it be ridiculous to invest in the state university that is in the part of the state where people actually live? Thw Boise area has grown to 600k+ people. Moscow has 25k. Nobody wants to move or travel to Moscow. Its a remote part of the state and Washington St University already has the area covered anyway Whats the point of having the #1 school in Idaho there? history? Stupid pride? Its not worth it. Time to do the state a favor and demote the school just like they demoted the football team.

So Illinois should move to Chicago.
Alabama to Birmingham.
Get Kansas out of Lawrence. Too Small
Penn State in State College? Sad.
Clemson? Move the college to Charleston.

And let's merge Iowa State and Iowa, move them to Des Moines.

Well, I guess you could argue that Iowa St football would never be missed, for some odd reason they still get 50k+ fans to all their football games, so they actually might be missed.

But seriously Iowa St is only half an hour from Des Moines so it more or less is in Des Moines already, which helps prove my point. Because Iowa st is actually close to a large city, people actually go its football games, even when the football team sucks. Unlike Idaho, which only draws 10k a game. Even the University of Iowa in Iowa City is only 2 hours from Des Moines and only 3 hours from Chicago. Moscow is over 5 hours from Boise. Its clear on the other side of the state.

Now if Kansas University was in the far western part of the state, that actually would be a good reason to move, because all the state population is on the east side of the state. There is a reason that KU, KSU and Witichia St are all on the east side of the state. Thats where the people are.

Clemson is less than 2.5 hours to both Atlanta and Charlotte. Bama is only an hour from Birmingham. They are hardly in the middle of nowhere in a low population state.
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When you look up and realize you're arguing with some guy from Iowa on a sports message board about whether to move the University of Idaho 300 miles, that's when you know you need an intervention or something. I've gotta get out of here.
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Although the Idaho board used to have a guy who constantly argued for the airlifting of the entire campus to Coeur d' Alene. I don't know what happened to that guy, but if he's watching, maybe he could weigh in here.
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Used to live in SE Idaho, and never been in a state that is so divided geographically and culturally. The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is the only spot that comes close. Some of my coworkers kids enrolled at U Idaho and had to drive long hours through Montana to get there. But Uof UTAH and BYU were far more popular than U of Idaho. Seemed only blue collar parents sent their kids to Idaho St.

What Moscow needs is an interstate from Spokane to Boise, Reno and Las Vegas. That stretch of the US doesn't have adequate N/S highway transportation and has grown tremendously since the interstate system was chartered. An interstate, even if most of it was in E Washington, would better connect the panhandle to the rest of the state.
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(02-14-2017 03:31 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  Although the Idaho board used to have a guy who constantly argued for the airlifting of the entire campus to Coeur d' Alene. I don't know what happened to that guy, but if he's watching, maybe he could weigh in here.

Is "Pastor" Butler's compound still vacant?
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(02-14-2017 03:28 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  When you look up and realize you're arguing with some guy from Iowa on a sports message board about whether to move the University of Idaho 300 miles, that's when you know you need an intervention or something. I've gotta get out of here.

You should put the entire campus on wheels, so that every time the state's population distribution changes, you can move the campus to wherever the most people are.
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(Sadly, I bet some people will take that suggestion seriously.)
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(02-14-2017 02:11 PM)goofus Wrote:  Why would it be ridiculous to invest in the state university that is in the part of the state where people actually live? Thw Boise area has grown to 600k+ people. Moscow has 25k. Nobody wants to move or travel to Moscow. Its a remote part of the state and Washington St University already has the area covered anyway Whats the point of having the #1 school in Idaho there? history? Stupid pride? Its not worth it. Time to do the state a favor and demote the school just like they demoted the football team.


There are some who still see a university as a place where students focus, first and foremost, on learning, on developing a thorough understanding of a set of material included in the curriculum. This is done in a somewhat sheltered environment, away from distractions of work, family, and friends (who are not likewise engaged in learning). To support this, historically, colleges were located far away from the nefarious influences of urban areas.

More recently, there has been a growth in attempting to bring advanced training to population centers. The focus in these institutions is on more applied learning, that can be used in one's immediate occupation. Thus many students are part time students or full time students who only give part time attention to their studies, while simultaneously working.

Each has its place. Perhaps you can identify each of UI and BSU with the type of mission it serves.
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Idaho has quite the situation with its in state universities. I'ts really quite unique having a glorified community college with a legit football program knocking the state flagship off the taxpayer teet and into FCS. Boise St used to be FCS and now has it's own TV deal in the MW and Idaho used to be FBS and now is begging for taxpayer money to survive in FCS without making huge cuts to the AD budget.
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(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.
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