(12-31-2016 10:26 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 12:00 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 10:05 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  ECU's schedule is pretty daunting so I guess that's where the motto "Undaunted" comes from. I'm sure Coach Mo would like to tone it down, but then again we've manged to give the league some nice P5 wins in the past. Just not a good year to go crazy which we have IMHO.

Coach Mo is doing a good job of finding talent while improving the academic profile of our student athletes which hopefully helps the program in player retention. This has been killing us. Mo's having to microwave it a bit to build rotational depth in the program in key position groups.

The offense has never really had a problem in moving the ball. We'll move it again next year. Now holding on to the ball and red zone scoring have been a major problem. Mo's trying to improve the running game to be more consistent and that's a work in progress. I do believe we'll improve in this area mainly due to my belief in Geep Wade. He's the oline coach and I think he'll get it done. At least he's back which will be a first returning oline coach in the last 3 years for continuity. OC Peterson also has a good track record with previous stops at La Tech and Marshall.

Defense will tell the tale for this team. We were thin on the dline last season going into the season and our projected best rusher decided to kill the neighbors dog. Sick person!!!! Then we lost our best Nose the 4th game of the season and he was never the same once he returned 5 games later. With 2 former P5 Juco's slated to come in next year along and Mo's in the hunt for 1 more plus the development of kids who had to play early as freshman we could go as deep as a 9 man rotation at three positions in our defensive front and really make us more Gap sound. We have decent LB talent I believe, but I haven't seen them play behind a good dline. We added a JUCO inside backer and our other inside backer will be adequate with the depth behind them. OLB is a bigger question mark, but we did have some young guys play there last year that show promise. Really looking forward to the DB's. We have 2 of the best corners I've seen at ECU, but they just couldn't cover for 8 seconds!!!! If we get consistent pressure up front these guys will be good. We have good depth behind them with a big Juco corner enrolling early also. 3 year starter at free safety and we also add Tim Irvin who was all everything in high school that played as a true freshman at Auburn.

Special teams were horrible last year, but made a nice turn around as the season progressed last year. Sophmore Jake Verity showed a strong leg placekicking last year. Don't know who will punt. Tim Irvin also happens to be an outstanding return man.

If we cut down on turnovers and continue the Coach Mo discipline (Low penalties) we could win as many as 8. Realistically 6. Coach Mo is in bad trouble with 5 or less.

Then again this is way to early and should know a lot more this summer.

Y'all gonna get clocked

Generic statement by someone with limited knowledge of our program. I do know we cleaned the clock of Memphis for years. The best thing they ever did for their program was getting us off their schedule. We will see though!!!!!

I don't think you guys want non of us right now. We aren't on the same level now

(12-29-2016 10:41 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  Tulsa's 2017 record will be contingent on our next QB. We return a 1000 yard rusher, have very good WRs & return a very good o-line. Our defense should be improved. QB is the wildcard, will it be a transfer or underclassman??

Don't forget about Ramadi Warren who was our second leading rusher from 2015. He took the year off to concentrate on grades. So we'll have 2 big time rushers in Brewer and Warren (who is similar to James Fanders as a power "down hill" runner). But yes, the one we need to develope is the QB as a thrower. If its President, I think we see a lot of running when down and distance merit it. He has serious wheels. And he also gets the medical redshirt so he's still a sophomore next year. And he's a legit 6-3, something Dane wasn't even close to. All the remaining QB's have that dropback passers height.

(12-30-2016 10:05 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  ECU's schedule is pretty daunting so I guess that's where the motto "Undaunted" comes from. I'm sure Coach Mo would like to tone it down, but then again we've manged to give the league some nice P5 wins in the past. Just not a good year to go crazy which we have IMHO.

Coach Mo is doing a good job of finding talent while improving the academic profile of our student athletes which hopefully helps the program in player retention. This has been killing us. Mo's having to microwave it a bit to build rotational depth in the program in key position groups.

The offense has never really had a problem in moving the ball. We'll move it again next year. Now holding on to the ball and red zone scoring have been a major problem. Mo's trying to improve the running game to be more consistent and that's a work in progress. I do believe we'll improve in this area mainly due to my belief in Geep Wade. He's the oline coach and I think he'll get it done. At least he's back which will be a first returning oline coach in the last 3 years for continuity. OC Peterson also has a good track record with previous stops at La Tech and Marshall.

Defense will tell the tale for this team. We were thin on the dline last season going into the season and our projected best rusher decided to kill the neighbors dog. Sick person!!!! Then we lost our best Nose the 4th game of the season and he was never the same once he returned 5 games later. With 2 former P5 Juco's slated to come in next year along and Mo's in the hunt for 1 more plus the development of kids who had to play early as freshman we could go as deep as a 9 man rotation at three positions in our defensive front and really make us more Gap sound. We have decent LB talent I believe, but I haven't seen them play behind a good dline. We added a JUCO inside backer and our other inside backer will be adequate with the depth behind them. OLB is a bigger question mark, but we did have some young guys play there last year that show promise. Really looking forward to the DB's. We have 2 of the best corners I've seen at ECU, but they just couldn't cover for 8 seconds!!!! If we get consistent pressure up front these guys will be good. We have good depth behind them with a big Juco corner enrolling early also. 3 year starter at free safety and we also add Tim Irvin who was all everything in high school that played as a true freshman at Auburn.

Special teams were horrible last year, but made a nice turn around as the season progressed last year. Sophmore Jake Verity showed a strong leg placekicking last year. Don't know who will punt. Tim Irvin also happens to be an outstanding return man.

If we cut down on turnovers and continue the Coach Mo discipline (Low penalties) we could win as many as 8. Realistically 6. Coach Mo is in bad trouble with 5 or less.

Then again this is way to early and should know a lot more this summer.

Fair evaluation. I'll be surprised and happy if we can get to 6. 5 will be progress.

(01-01-2017 12:39 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 10:05 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  ECU's schedule is pretty daunting so I guess that's where the motto "Undaunted" comes from. I'm sure Coach Mo would like to tone it down, but then again we've manged to give the league some nice P5 wins in the past. Just not a good year to go crazy which we have IMHO.

Coach Mo is doing a good job of finding talent while improving the academic profile of our student athletes which hopefully helps the program in player retention. This has been killing us. Mo's having to microwave it a bit to build rotational depth in the program in key position groups.

The offense has never really had a problem in moving the ball. We'll move it again next year. Now holding on to the ball and red zone scoring have been a major problem. Mo's trying to improve the running game to be more consistent and that's a work in progress. I do believe we'll improve in this area mainly due to my belief in Geep Wade. He's the oline coach and I think he'll get it done. At least he's back which will be a first returning oline coach in the last 3 years for continuity. OC Peterson also has a good track record with previous stops at La Tech and Marshall.

Defense will tell the tale for this team. We were thin on the dline last season going into the season and our projected best rusher decided to kill the neighbors dog. Sick person!!!! Then we lost our best Nose the 4th game of the season and he was never the same once he returned 5 games later. With 2 former P5 Juco's slated to come in next year along and Mo's in the hunt for 1 more plus the development of kids who had to play early as freshman we could go as deep as a 9 man rotation at three positions in our defensive front and really make us more Gap sound. We have decent LB talent I believe, but I haven't seen them play behind a good dline. We added a JUCO inside backer and our other inside backer will be adequate with the depth behind them. OLB is a bigger question mark, but we did have some young guys play there last year that show promise. Really looking forward to the DB's. We have 2 of the best corners I've seen at ECU, but they just couldn't cover for 8 seconds!!!! If we get consistent pressure up front these guys will be good. We have good depth behind them with a big Juco corner enrolling early also. 3 year starter at free safety and we also add Tim Irvin who was all everything in high school that played as a true freshman at Auburn.

Special teams were horrible last year, but made a nice turn around as the season progressed last year. Sophmore Jake Verity showed a strong leg placekicking last year. Don't know who will punt. Tim Irvin also happens to be an outstanding return man.

If we cut down on turnovers and continue the Coach Mo discipline (Low penalties) we could win as many as 8. Realistically 6. Coach Mo is in bad trouble with 5 or less.

Then again this is way to early and should know a lot more this summer.

Fair evaluation. I'll be surprised and happy if we can get to 6. 5 will be progress.

Man I hope you guys do improve enough to make a bowl. A 9-10 win ECU in the east with U_F and Cincy and Temple , would add some serious credibility to the conference as a whole for being tough from top to bottom

I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

(01-01-2017 01:47 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 12:39 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 10:05 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  ECU's schedule is pretty daunting so I guess that's where the motto "Undaunted" comes from. I'm sure Coach Mo would like to tone it down, but then again we've manged to give the league some nice P5 wins in the past. Just not a good year to go crazy which we have IMHO.

Coach Mo is doing a good job of finding talent while improving the academic profile of our student athletes which hopefully helps the program in player retention. This has been killing us. Mo's having to microwave it a bit to build rotational depth in the program in key position groups.

The offense has never really had a problem in moving the ball. We'll move it again next year. Now holding on to the ball and red zone scoring have been a major problem. Mo's trying to improve the running game to be more consistent and that's a work in progress. I do believe we'll improve in this area mainly due to my belief in Geep Wade. He's the oline coach and I think he'll get it done. At least he's back which will be a first returning oline coach in the last 3 years for continuity. OC Peterson also has a good track record with previous stops at La Tech and Marshall.

Defense will tell the tale for this team. We were thin on the dline last season going into the season and our projected best rusher decided to kill the neighbors dog. Sick person!!!! Then we lost our best Nose the 4th game of the season and he was never the same once he returned 5 games later. With 2 former P5 Juco's slated to come in next year along and Mo's in the hunt for 1 more plus the development of kids who had to play early as freshman we could go as deep as a 9 man rotation at three positions in our defensive front and really make us more Gap sound. We have decent LB talent I believe, but I haven't seen them play behind a good dline. We added a JUCO inside backer and our other inside backer will be adequate with the depth behind them. OLB is a bigger question mark, but we did have some young guys play there last year that show promise. Really looking forward to the DB's. We have 2 of the best corners I've seen at ECU, but they just couldn't cover for 8 seconds!!!! If we get consistent pressure up front these guys will be good. We have good depth behind them with a big Juco corner enrolling early also. 3 year starter at free safety and we also add Tim Irvin who was all everything in high school that played as a true freshman at Auburn.

Special teams were horrible last year, but made a nice turn around as the season progressed last year. Sophmore Jake Verity showed a strong leg placekicking last year. Don't know who will punt. Tim Irvin also happens to be an outstanding return man.

If we cut down on turnovers and continue the Coach Mo discipline (Low penalties) we could win as many as 8. Realistically 6. Coach Mo is in bad trouble with 5 or less.

Then again this is way to early and should know a lot more this summer.

Fair evaluation. I'll be surprised and happy if we can get to 6. 5 will be progress.

Man I hope you guys do improve enough to make a bowl. A 9-10 win ECU in the east with U_F and Cincy and Temple , would add some serious credibility to the conference as a whole for being tough from top to bottom

Thanks we are definitely a work in progress and getting to six wins with our schedule will be an accomplishment. I really like what Coach Mo's all about as far as a man, coach, and leader. He still has to get all his guys in here instilled with the right attitude. It's a process. He inherited a program with good top line talent, but very little depth. Bad things happened early in the season to the topline and depth was exposed as the season progressed. We should be closer to normal in 2018. I do think it will take that long, but the natives are restless. The wildcard is our QB recruit who's a midyear enrollment. He's rated the best in the Carolina's and 6'4" 220lbs, but that's a lot of pressure and iffy to count on that early in his career.

If Strong can keep main players from leaving early to NFL like Mack and he keeps the offense running as is but strengthens the defense by using players on that side in better alignments plus gets a couple of impact players to add on that side then USF will be even tougher next year.
With our soft OCS of
@ San Jose State
Illinois
Stony Brook
Massachusetts
Starting year in top 25
Conference games
@UConn
@ECU
@ Tulane
@ UCF
UC
Tulsa
Houston
Temple

We have a great shot at being in AAC championship game plus the front runners for the Access Bowl

(01-01-2017 11:31 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  If Strong can keep main players from leaving early to NFL like Mack and he keeps the offense running as is but strengthens the defense by using players on that side in better alignments plus gets a couple of impact players to add on that side then USF will be even tougher next year.
With our soft OCS of
@ San Jose State
Illinois
Stony Brook
Massachusetts
Starting year in top 25
Conference games
@UConn
@ECU
@ Tulane
@ UCF
UC
Tulsa
Houston
Temple

We have a great shot at being in AAC championship game plus the front runners for the Access Bowl

USF is my pick for the east, but your right Mack is a key. Taggart had done a good job of bringing in talent and Strong been around long enough to coach them up. Rest of the east a little in flux right now and UCF lost a lot of defense this year. I'm thinking Navy and Memphis will duel for the West. It will be more competitive on that side with Houston included.

Who the **** is Mo?

AAC West should be tough to call. Memphis and Tulsa should be good, Navy and Houston need a bit of rebuild, with SMU and Tulane coming on much tougher. As for SMU, if the QB position (Hicks, Peavy-Arkansas transfer 4*, Gilles-Wisconsin/JC 4*) is strong from the start, we should win quite a few games. OOC schedule is easier: North Texas, Arkansas State, D2, and TCU (6-7 THIS YEAR) plus we get UC, UConn and UCF from the AAC East. That sets us up for a very good season (without major injuries).

(01-01-2017 04:28 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  AAC West should be tough to call. Memphis and Tulsa should be good, Navy and Houston need a bit of rebuild, with SMU and Tulane coming on much tougher. As for SMU, if the QB position (Hicks, Peavy-Arkansas transfer 4*, Gilles-Wisconsin/JC 4*) is strong from the start, we should win quite a few games. OOC schedule is easier: North Texas, Arkansas State, D2, and TCU (6-7 THIS YEAR) plus we get UC, UConn and UCF from the AAC East. That sets us up for a very good season (without major injuries).

I agree with this. I think the west is wide open. Tulane might still be the weakest but could probaby upset anybody. SMU could do real damage. The rest of us have question marks but should still be lethal in conference play.

(01-01-2017 03:53 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Who the **** is Mo?

ECU's head coach

(01-01-2017 04:41 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 04:28 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  AAC West should be tough to call. Memphis and Tulsa should be good, Navy and Houston need a bit of rebuild, with SMU and Tulane coming on much tougher. As for SMU, if the QB position (Hicks, Peavy-Arkansas transfer 4*, Gilles-Wisconsin/JC 4*) is strong from the start, we should win quite a few games. OOC schedule is easier: North Texas, Arkansas State, D2, and TCU (6-7 THIS YEAR) plus we get UC, UConn and UCF from the AAC East. That sets us up for a very good season (without major injuries).

I agree with this. I think the west is wide open. Tulane might still be the weakest but could probaby upset anybody. SMU could do real damage. The rest of us have question marks but should still be lethal in conference play.

Pretty sure we are returning our young group next season. They will just be sophomores and juniors now

update on the ussf debate earlier...strong doesnt bring a prostyle offense to usf but brings the Baylor/tulsa offense

he retains his ocs from his last year at texas..curios how that plays out..also looks like taggart is taking all his staff to oregon

(01-01-2017 07:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  update on the ussf debate earlier...strong doesnt bring a prostyle offense to usf but brings the Baylor/tulsa offense

he retains his ocs from his last year at texas..curios how that plays out..also looks like taggart is taking all his staff to oregon

Well that kind of kills USF class

I would like to think Houston goes undefeated, but so many new elements, coach applewhites first time HC, new QB Kyle Allen and as of today not much going on with recruiting....gosh I just want my 5* and 4*s to just commit all ready...

I'm intrigued by the USF Tulsa matchup that's going to happen next year. I think Monty runs the Briles offense a bit better than his old OC's did, but defending it is going to be a real chore. Add to that the fact that the Tulsa QB is still unknown and I think it should be a toss up.

I'm also interested in a Tulsa vs UConn game since we've never played them in football before and we've been in the league for some time now.

(01-01-2017 03:53 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Who the **** is Mo?

Curly and Larry's bff

(01-01-2017 07:50 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  I would like to think Houston goes undefeated, but so many new elements, coach applewhites first time HC, new QB Kyle Allen and as of today not much going on with recruiting....gosh I just want my 5* and 4*s to just commit all ready...

Lmao I'll be content if we win 8-9 games and compete for the division. Hopefully we can figure out how to run the ball again. We really missed Farrows production this year.

(01-01-2017 07:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  update on the ussf debate earlier...strong doesnt bring a prostyle offense to usf but brings the Baylor/tulsa offense

he retains his ocs from his last year at texas..curios how that plays out..also looks like taggart is taking all his staff to oregon

He is taking some but not all