(01-06-2017 03:01 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 02:49 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

The guy 1978 mentioned just transferred. It could very well be Skipper. The coaches are high on him from what I've heard. We also still have the 4-star Chad President who will compete for the spot. His throwing mechanics need work though. Hopefully Monty can find his guy in the next few weeks / months.

Anyone have an idea on who might replace Trent Martin at Middle Linebacker?

Probably Cooper Edmiston. He did some fill in work on the few snaps that Martin didn't play. I also think Revels will be very good somewhere. Not sure if they'll move him from the backup Will LB to the Star LB though. That Star LB has to be mobile like a safety. Maybe the Collins kid who's in the Freshman class could come in and play it.

(12-29-2016 09:34 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(12-29-2016 09:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Opie is the Kevin Ollie of football for Houston

National Title in 2018! I'll take it.

Never going to happen under current CFP committee structure (and 4 team P5 playoff set up)

(01-06-2017 03:28 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 03:01 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 02:49 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

The guy 1978 mentioned just transferred. It could very well be Skipper. The coaches are high on him from what I've heard. We also still have the 4-star Chad President who will compete for the spot. His throwing mechanics need work though. Hopefully Monty can find his guy in the next few weeks / months.

Anyone have an idea on who might replace Trent Martin at Middle Linebacker?

Probably Cooper Edmiston. He did some fill in work on the few snaps that Martin didn't play. I also think Revels will be very good somewhere. Not sure if they'll move him from the backup Will LB to the Star LB though. That Star LB has to be mobile like a safety. Maybe the Collins kid who's in the Freshman class could come in and play it.

Rubley was going to be 3rd string. He just didn't have the arm to be a division I QB, wish the kid the best, I hope he finds a good home for his senior year! I think President will be at a different position this year (WR.) I know we were on Stidham before he went to Auburn, it's too bad we couldn't get him. Cooper is going to be a stud, has great instincts as a freshman. I also really like Cannon. I think we may move suits over to that star spot. Best guess for starters at LB are, Suits, Edminston and Gooden, with Cannon and Revels getting playing time also.

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:23 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:23 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

Ok, best rushing attack in an offense that actually throws the ball a lot too. #3 rushing and #4 passing, to your #1 rushing and #11 passing. How's that?

(01-06-2017 04:40 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 03:28 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 03:01 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 02:49 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

The guy 1978 mentioned just transferred. It could very well be Skipper. The coaches are high on him from what I've heard. We also still have the 4-star Chad President who will compete for the spot. His throwing mechanics need work though. Hopefully Monty can find his guy in the next few weeks / months.

Anyone have an idea on who might replace Trent Martin at Middle Linebacker?

Probably Cooper Edmiston. He did some fill in work on the few snaps that Martin didn't play. I also think Revels will be very good somewhere. Not sure if they'll move him from the backup Will LB to the Star LB though. That Star LB has to be mobile like a safety. Maybe the Collins kid who's in the Freshman class could come in and play it.

Rubley was going to be 3rd string. He just didn't have the arm to be a division I QB, wish the kid the best, I hope he finds a good home for his senior year! I think President will be at a different position this year (WR.) I know we were on Stidham before he went to Auburn, it's too bad we couldn't get him. Cooper is going to be a stud, has great instincts as a freshman. I also really like Cannon. I think we may move suits over to that star spot. Best guess for starters at LB are, Suits, Edminston and Gooden, with Cannon and Revels getting playing time also.

I don't remember seeing Gooden this year? Did he RS?

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:23 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

As far as we know, Tulsa doesn't lose anything on the best offensive line in the conference. Belcher received a medical RS. Unless he graduates and decides he doesn't want to come back, he's got a 5th season.

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:35 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  Calling it now, Luke Skipper will be the starter. He has a big arm and can run some too. Agree with the rest though, I think we should be favorites to win the west!

Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Must be nice having 185 players to choose from. I wish Tulsa got an extra 80 guys for practice.

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  Really?

Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Once again, We were talking about next year, as far as I know, it is impossible to have statistics for a season that hasn't happened yet. But thank you for condescending my opinion for being an opinion and then listing your own opinion.

I would say USF had a better rushing attack this year than Navy. Before you say it, Yes they had 25 less yards per game, but USF averaged 6.5 yard per attempt to navy's 5.9. I'll take the more efficient one.

As far as next year for Navy, the drop off from Worth to Abey is a lot more noticeable than from Reynolds to Worth.

(01-06-2017 06:52 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 01:58 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  Schedule is in our favor. Defensively we lose very little and get another year older. Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference, just need a serviceable QB, which I think we have in Skipper. The Baylor offense is very QB friendly, especially if you can run a little like Skipper can.

310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Once again, We were talking about next year, as far as I know, it is impossible to have statistics for a season that hasn't happened yet. But thank you for condescending my opinion for being an opinion and then listing your own opinion.

I would say USF had a better rushing attack this year than Navy. Before you say it, Yes they had 25 less yards per game, but USF averaged 6.5 yard per attempt to navy's 5.9. I'll take the more efficient one.

As far as next year for Navy, the drop off from Worth to Abey is a lot more noticeable than from Reynolds to Worth.

That's not even the condescending version. I had a response that was downright pedantic about using tense properly, and I decided against it. "Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference" is NOT clearly talking about next year.
I bolded the elements of your rewrite that DID make that clear and then I intentionally structured my own predictive opinion to mirror your sentence structure. So I guess you're welcome.

I will buy the argument of preferring ypa to rypg and step back to second (or even lower) place on that. I would suggest that 99% of fans would use "best" to equal yards per game and use something like "most efficient" to better capture yards per attempt. But you do have a valid point.

As far as Reynolds:Worth::Worth:Abey, you're just wrong. Worth was the #3 behind Reynolds and Smith; most of his practice snaps before Spring 2016 were running scout team offense, not Navy offense. He was the holder until Tago Smith went down week 1. That's why this board predicted DOOM for Navy post-Reynolds. And then Worth didn't look like a 25 TD guy against UConn, Tulane, and AirForce.
Abey on the other hand was unknown as #3 in fall camp. But he started getting just as many reps as Worth after 3 September (we run two huddles in practice). Then he got more game time against ECU and SMU than Worth had prior to this season. Then he got a baptism by fire in the last three games - while I didn't like the end results and Temple game /Army first half mixed good and bad, he has delivered in the last 90 minutes of football. Way less dropoff.


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(01-06-2017 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 06:52 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 04:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  310 ypg says "Hi" (that is 119% of yours)

Honestly, you don't even rank second best in the conference...

We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Once again, We were talking about next year, as far as I know, it is impossible to have statistics for a season that hasn't happened yet. But thank you for condescending my opinion for being an opinion and then listing your own opinion.

I would say USF had a better rushing attack this year than Navy. Before you say it, Yes they had 25 less yards per game, but USF averaged 6.5 yard per attempt to navy's 5.9. I'll take the more efficient one.

As far as next year for Navy, the drop off from Worth to Abey is a lot more noticeable than from Reynolds to Worth.

That's not even the condescending version. I had a response that was downright pedantic about using tense properly, and I decided against it. "Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference" is NOT clearly talking about next year.
I bolded the elements of your rewrite that DID make that clear and then I intentionally structured my own predictive opinion to mirror your sentence structure. So I guess you're welcome.

I will buy the argument of preferring ypa to rypg and step back to second (or even lower) place on that. I would suggest that 99% of fans would use "best" to equal yards per game and use something like "most efficient" to better capture yards per attempt. But you do have a valid point.

As far as Reynolds:Worth::Worth:Abey, you're just wrong. Worth was the #3 behind Reynolds and Smith; most of his practice snaps before Spring 2016 were running scout team offense, not Navy offense. He was the holder until Tago Smith went down week 1. That's why this board predicted DOOM for Navy post-Reynolds. And then Worth didn't look like a 25 TD guy against UConn, Tulane, and AirForce.
Abey on the other hand was unknown as #3 in fall camp. But he started getting just as many reps as Worth after 3 September (we run two huddles in practice). Then he got more game time against ECU and SMU than Worth had prior to this season. Then he got a baptism by fire in the last three games - while I didn't like the end results and Temple game /Army first half mixed good and bad, he has delivered in the last 90 minutes of football. Way less dropoff.


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Dadgum.

Regardless of everything that's been said, the West could very likely come down to Navy and Tulsa again. Memphis might get in the mix. Houston is a wild card. SMU might still be a year away. Tulane probably 2 years.

(01-01-2017 06:23 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

a season at tulsa we will all remember

Kelly HinesVerified account ‏@KellyHinesTW 8h8 hours ago
#TulsaFB QB Ryan Rubley and long snapper Robert Hill are transferring; Rubley eligible immediately as grad transfer

(01-06-2017 10:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 06:23 AM)TU 1978 Wrote:  I love how folks keep forgetting to place Tulsa in the contender category, let alone at the top of it after our performance this year. That's fine, just keep overlooking us.

Ryan Rubley will be the next David Johnson for us and have a season to remember at QB.

a season at tulsa we will all remember

Kelly HinesVerified account ‏@KellyHinesTW 8h8 hours ago
#TulsaFB QB Ryan Rubley and long snapper Robert Hill are transferring; Rubley eligible immediately as grad transfer

Ouch!

(01-06-2017 02:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  few things to note

no way we are 6-6. there are only 2 teams that will be favored over us..

Ed is debated as the best DT in all of college football, as a true freshman, don't see how we are just above average there

our safeties are bigger faster and stronger than last years bunch, but last years bunch averaged 12 ints a season ..the new guys got zero and weren't good in coverage ..we are definitely not above average there

catalon struggled from a bad oline...he was never a make you miss guy. give him a better oline and he'd dominate, most backs would have struggled with our oline, he is 220lbs and runs an official 4.4

same for people saying greg got worse, no he got drastically better just didn't have the oline to sustain him
greg ward was the most sacked qb in the AAC by a wide margin...also noting despite that was statistically lead the AAC in passing yards

our oline was young last year, 4 of the 5 were first time starters and the 1 returning player was a true freshman the year prior...100% of them return hopefully have drastic improvements and we are almost certainly adding jc or grad transfers

even with a bad oline we still win 8, a good oline i think we win the league...we are pretty weak at CB but memphis is the only legit passing team in the AAC next year (proven and experienced on purely passing) so i don't see us getting exposed there too much

Interceptions is not the biggest factor for me in regards to quality safety play. The key is limiting big plays. Keeping an 8 yard run from breaking into a 60 yd TD. Solid tackling and being where you are supposed to be.

With a new scheme I think they will be even better. Hopefully the play action pass will not be so wide open next year.

Honestly if we win more than 6 games that will be an accomplishment. As of right now i think we are a 6 win team next year.
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This is not a 6 win team. Not sure if you are serious. I would say 8 is the floor.

Some names that need to step up if we want to win the conference.

OLB Egbule, CB K. Smith, CB J. Smith, G Wooten, G Murphy OLB Godfrey, and hopefully our DC brings in some JuCo guys or impact Freshman.

A solid JuCo OL wouldn't hurt either.

(01-06-2017 09:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 06:52 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:15 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  We were discussing next year.

Yes Navy and South Florida averaged more yards per game this Year. Navy loses Worth and Romine (2 of the top 3 rushers) and South Florida loses Mack (2nd leading rusher.) Tulsa loses their top rusher in Flanders, but returns the second leading rusher both on the team and in conference in Brewer and gets Warren back from suspension (who was second string ahead of Flanders in the pre-season.) We also had 4 lineman on either 1st or 2nd team all conference and only lose one from that group.

Put it all together and I think Tulsa will have the best rushing attack in the conference next year.

Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Once again, We were talking about next year, as far as I know, it is impossible to have statistics for a season that hasn't happened yet. But thank you for condescending my opinion for being an opinion and then listing your own opinion.

I would say USF had a better rushing attack this year than Navy. Before you say it, Yes they had 25 less yards per game, but USF averaged 6.5 yard per attempt to navy's 5.9. I'll take the more efficient one.

As far as next year for Navy, the drop off from Worth to Abey is a lot more noticeable than from Reynolds to Worth.

That's not even the condescending version. I had a response that was downright pedantic about using tense properly, and I decided against it. "Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference" is NOT clearly talking about next year.
I bolded the elements of your rewrite that DID make that clear and then I intentionally structured my own predictive opinion to mirror your sentence structure. So I guess you're welcome.

I will buy the argument of preferring ypa to rypg and step back to second (or even lower) place on that. I would suggest that 99% of fans would use "best" to equal yards per game and use something like "most efficient" to better capture yards per attempt. But you do have a valid point.

As far as Reynolds:Worth::Worth:Abey, you're just wrong. Worth was the #3 behind Reynolds and Smith; most of his practice snaps before Spring 2016 were running scout team offense, not Navy offense. He was the holder until Tago Smith went down week 1. That's why this board predicted DOOM for Navy post-Reynolds. And then Worth didn't look like a 25 TD guy against UConn, Tulane, and AirForce.
Abey on the other hand was unknown as #3 in fall camp. But he started getting just as many reps as Worth after 3 September (we run two huddles in practice). Then he got more game time against ECU and SMU than Worth had prior to this season. Then he got a baptism by fire in the last three games - while I didn't like the end results and Temple game /Army first half mixed good and bad, he has delivered in the last 90 minutes of football. Way less dropoff.


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Dadgum.

Regardless of everything that's been said, the West could very likely come down to Navy and Memphis . Tulsa might get in the mix. Houston is a wild card. SMU might still be a year away. Tulane probably 2 years.

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You guys are breaking in a new QB. It's will not be that smooth for you

(01-07-2017 01:44 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 09:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 06:52 PM)T-Town Cane Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 05:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Ahhh...no longer a case of someone being factually wrong on the internet, so I can rest easily tonight.

However, I think your prediction is off. I think Navy will again be the best rushing offense in the conference next year. You should add losing Shawn White and (offensive team captain) Toneo Gulley to Navy's list as well - we actually lose four of our top five rushers ... just like last year ... with the devastating effect of moving from #1 rushing attack to, ummm, #1 rushing attack.
Once again, those counting on a dropoff from Navy will be disappointed.

Once again, We were talking about next year, as far as I know, it is impossible to have statistics for a season that hasn't happened yet. But thank you for condescending my opinion for being an opinion and then listing your own opinion.

I would say USF had a better rushing attack this year than Navy. Before you say it, Yes they had 25 less yards per game, but USF averaged 6.5 yard per attempt to navy's 5.9. I'll take the more efficient one.

As far as next year for Navy, the drop off from Worth to Abey is a lot more noticeable than from Reynolds to Worth.

That's not even the condescending version. I had a response that was downright pedantic about using tense properly, and I decided against it. "Offensively we have the best Rushing attack in the conference" is NOT clearly talking about next year.
I bolded the elements of your rewrite that DID make that clear and then I intentionally structured my own predictive opinion to mirror your sentence structure. So I guess you're welcome.

I will buy the argument of preferring ypa to rypg and step back to second (or even lower) place on that. I would suggest that 99% of fans would use "best" to equal yards per game and use something like "most efficient" to better capture yards per attempt. But you do have a valid point.

As far as Reynolds:Worth::Worth:Abey, you're just wrong. Worth was the #3 behind Reynolds and Smith; most of his practice snaps before Spring 2016 were running scout team offense, not Navy offense. He was the holder until Tago Smith went down week 1. That's why this board predicted DOOM for Navy post-Reynolds. And then Worth didn't look like a 25 TD guy against UConn, Tulane, and AirForce.
Abey on the other hand was unknown as #3 in fall camp. But he started getting just as many reps as Worth after 3 September (we run two huddles in practice). Then he got more game time against ECU and SMU than Worth had prior to this season. Then he got a baptism by fire in the last three games - while I didn't like the end results and Temple game /Army first half mixed good and bad, he has delivered in the last 90 minutes of football. Way less dropoff.


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Dadgum.

Regardless of everything that's been said, the West could very likely come down to Navy and Memphis . Tulsa might get in the mix. Houston is a wild card. SMU might still be a year away. Tulane probably 2 years.

FIFY

You guys are breaking in a new QB. It's will not be that smooth for you

It might not be. But the rest of the offense has all the pieces there to be successful. And Montgomery's history with QB's suggest he can be successful with whoever the next man up is.

I believe that Memphis will be the favorite to win the west. I would put Houston in the second slot but Navy always surprises me. Tulsa will slide into the 3/4 slot and SMU then Tulane will round things out. SMU may have a chance to shine if they put some defense together.

In the East, USF should be the hands down favorite. IMO, Strong is a serviceable coach and his predecessor has the pieces on the roster. Second through fourth will consist of UCF/Temple and Cincinnati. These three have the most talent on their rosters and I like the new hires, especially at Cincy. Of the three, I could see a struggle at Temple. Walker was a stabilizing force at qb and will not be easily replaced. UCF should be stronger than Cincy based on recruiting. ECU will continue to struggle until they get some continuity and I am not sold on the return of Edsal at Uconn.

A few words about my team. In the off season, it appears that Fickel is doing every thing right. He has built up the roster and retained a strong staff with midwest/southern ties.