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Way too early 2017 football outlooks
since we are done with bowls a look our teams in 2017


Contenders?:

USF: comfortable favorites if taggart had stayed coach, charlie strong has had a history of destroying to rebuild, he also has nothing to do with the read option (usfs offense).
big question: usfs offense, offensive staff, marlon mack and potentially declaring early

Houston: On paper might have the best team in the g5 (recruiting wise), but huge question marks every where including coach

Memphis: returns almost everyone from an above average team for a g5, they could have big year 2 progress or just remain above average g5 team

Temple: League champs, big loses on defense and sean chandler might declare early...qb and rb gone..new coach...next year is a defining season for temple, was it just the golden era of temple that just passed or is it a new standard

Navy- the system that keeps on rolling, but ill be honest the drop from reynolds to worth wasnt much, but from worth to abey was kinda big...can he rebound in 2017?

the rest:

UCF- played so many young players especially on offense and had such huge progress from last year, is another step coming??

Tulsa- losses top qb, top wr, top rb, on an offensive team, but at baylor tulsa HC replaced players in his system interchangeable and it made no difference..will tulsa be the same.the Chad President era begins?

Cincy- will another ohio state assistant have another 1 year turn around? (herman reference) cincy was pretty young and had talent.. will be curious if he brings the read option from ohio state (running qb offense)

SMU- my darkhorse sleeper next year, is the year for smu, especially if courtland sutton doesnt declare early, almost all their best players where freshmen or sophomore, and they had touted transfers sitting out for transfer rules..if they cant break out next year im not sure it happen under morris

UConn-Randy Edsall- im not gonna sit here and tell you i expect great things out of uconn next year, but next year despite whatever record, might be the building block for future seasons

Tulane- they played a total of 2 upperclassmen on offense, willie fritz in year 1 might have given tulane their best team in a decade (2013 was inflated from a bad c-usa)..they are a sleeper for me to go bowling, willie fritz knows how to coach

ECU- ill be honest, i dont see reason for major improvements, your team was getting worse as the season went along and are now losing your all american WR..you do have a good number of players returning and that was just coach mos first year ..he has the pieces to rebound, but has to find a way to motivate his team to get there, a defining season for him..you should be getting better as you play not worse..ad the turnovers issue was big..but i would say bowling isnt impossible

every team has huge question marks- i dont see any for sure elite teams, but a few teams with elite potential..
uconn is in full transition, so i have no clue what to expect from them but like this season i dont see any other utterly bad teams in the league next year
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i think a realistic expectation for UC next year is 6-6.
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Opie is the Kevin Ollie of football for Houston
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RE: Way too early 2017 football outlooks
(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  since we are done with bowls a look our teams in 2017


Contenders?:

USF: comfortable favorites if taggart had stayed coach, charlie strong has had a history of destroying to rebuild, he also has nothing to do with the read option (usfs offense).
big question: usfs offense, offensive staff, marlon mack and potentially declaring early

Houston: On paper might have the best team in the g5 (recruiting wise), but huge question marks every where including coach

Memphis: returns almost everyone from an above average team for a g5, they could have big year 2 progress or just remain above average g5 team

Temple: League champs, big loses on defense and sean chandler might declare early...qb and rb gone..new coach...next year is a defining season for temple, was it just the golden era of temple that just passed or is it a new standard

Navy- the system that keeps on rolling, but ill be honest the drop from reynolds to worth wasnt much, but from worth to abey was kinda big...can he rebound in 2017?

the rest:

UCF- played so many young players especially on offense and had such huge progress from last year, is another step coming??

Tulsa- losses top qb, top wr, top rb, on an offensive team, but at baylor tulsa HC replaced players in his system interchangeable and it made no difference..will tulsa be the same.the Chad President era begins?

Cincy- will another ohio state assistant have another 1 year turn around? (herman reference) cincy was pretty young and had talent.. will be curious if he brings the read option from ohio state (running qb offense)

SMU- my darkhorse sleeper next year is the year for smu, especially if courtland sutton doesnt declare early, almost all their best players where freshmen or sophmore, and they had touted transfers sitting out for transfer rules..if they cant break out next year im not sure it happen under morris

UConn-Randy Edsall- im not gonna sit here and tell you i expect great things out of uconn next year, but next year despite whatever record, might be the building block for future seasons

Tulane- they played a total of 2 upperclassmen on offense, willie fritz in year 1 might have given tulane their best team in a decade (2013 was inflated from a bad c-usa)..they are a sleeper for me to go bowling, willie fritz knows how to coach

ECU- ill be honest, i dont see reason for major improvements, your team was getting worse as the season went along and are now losing your all american WR..you do have a good number of players returning and that was just coach mos first year ..he has the pieces to rebound, but has to find a way to motivate his team to get there, a defining season for him..you should be getting better as you play not worse..ad the turnovers issue was big..but i would say bowling isnt impossible

every team has huge question marks- i dont see any for sure elite teams, but a few teams with elite potential..
uconn is in full transition, so i have no clue what to expect from them but like this season i dont see any other utterly bad teams in the league next year

Serious question.....could Charlie Strong/Quinton Flowers be Steve Kragthorpe/Brian Brohm? I never could figure out why Louisville was so bad after losing next to nothing.
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(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  ECU- ill be honest, i dont see reason for major improvements, your team was getting worse as the season went along and are now losing your all american WR..you do have a good number of players returning and that was just coach mos first year ..he has the pieces to rebound, but has to find a way to motivate his team to get there, a defining season for him..you should be getting better as you play not worse..ad the turnovers issue was big..but i would say bowling isnt impossible

I would say this is a pretty fair assessment and that ECU's most likely win total is somewhere in the 3-5 range next year. Obviously if things go our way and especially if there are some first year coaching set backs at a couple of programs in our division we could do much better. Bowl eligible would be mission accomplished for me.
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(12-29-2016 09:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Opie is the Kevin Ollie of football for Houston

National Title in 2018! I'll take it.
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Mo has coached himself on the hot seat after one season. Win 3 or less again and he'll be gone so he sure better improve.
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(12-29-2016 09:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  i think a realistic expectation for UC next year is 6-6.

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(12-29-2016 09:04 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Serious question.....could Charlie Strong/Quinton Flowers be Steve Kragthorpe/Brian Brohm? I never could figure out why Louisville was so bad after losing next to nothing.

IIRC Kragthorpe kicked several players off the team as he was brought in to also clean up the program and he doesn't put up with BS.

Unfortunately, they were really good players and Louisville decided winning with some jackarses was better than losing without them.
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(12-29-2016 09:04 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  since we are done with bowls a look our teams in 2017


Contenders?:

USF: comfortable favorites if taggart had stayed coach, charlie strong has had a history of destroying to rebuild, he also has nothing to do with the read option (usfs offense).
big question: usfs offense, offensive staff, marlon mack and potentially declaring early

Houston: On paper might have the best team in the g5 (recruiting wise), but huge question marks every where including coach

Memphis: returns almost everyone from an above average team for a g5, they could have big year 2 progress or just remain above average g5 team

Temple: League champs, big loses on defense and sean chandler might declare early...qb and rb gone..new coach...next year is a defining season for temple, was it just the golden era of temple that just passed or is it a new standard

Navy- the system that keeps on rolling, but ill be honest the drop from reynolds to worth wasnt much, but from worth to abey was kinda big...can he rebound in 2017?

the rest:

UCF- played so many young players especially on offense and had such huge progress from last year, is another step coming??

Tulsa- losses top qb, top wr, top rb, on an offensive team, but at baylor tulsa HC replaced players in his system interchangeable and it made no difference..will tulsa be the same.the Chad President era begins?

Cincy- will another ohio state assistant have another 1 year turn around? (herman reference) cincy was pretty young and had talent.. will be curious if he brings the read option from ohio state (running qb offense)

SMU- my darkhorse sleeper next year is the year for smu, especially if courtland sutton doesnt declare early, almost all their best players where freshmen or sophmore, and they had touted transfers sitting out for transfer rules..if they cant break out next year im not sure it happen under morris

UConn-Randy Edsall- im not gonna sit here and tell you i expect great things out of uconn next year, but next year despite whatever record, might be the building block for future seasons

Tulane- they played a total of 2 upperclassmen on offense, willie fritz in year 1 might have given tulane their best team in a decade (2013 was inflated from a bad c-usa)..they are a sleeper for me to go bowling, willie fritz knows how to coach

ECU- ill be honest, i dont see reason for major improvements, your team was getting worse as the season went along and are now losing your all american WR..you do have a good number of players returning and that was just coach mos first year ..he has the pieces to rebound, but has to find a way to motivate his team to get there, a defining season for him..you should be getting better as you play not worse..ad the turnovers issue was big..but i would say bowling isnt impossible

every team has huge question marks- i dont see any for sure elite teams, but a few teams with elite potential..
uconn is in full transition, so i have no clue what to expect from them but like this season i dont see any other utterly bad teams in the league next year

Serious question.....could Charlie Strong/Quinton Flowers be Steve Kragthorpe/Brian Brohm? I never could figure out why Louisville was so bad after losing next to nothing.

It's a bummer things didn't work with Kragthorpe at UL bease he is who brought Tulsa out of the gutter.
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(12-29-2016 09:05 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  
(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  ECU- ill be honest, i dont see reason for major improvements, your team was getting worse as the season went along and are now losing your all american WR..you do have a good number of players returning and that was just coach mos first year ..he has the pieces to rebound, but has to find a way to motivate his team to get there, a defining season for him..you should be getting better as you play not worse..ad the turnovers issue was big..but i would say bowling isnt impossible

I would say this is a pretty fair assessment and that ECU's most likely win total is somewhere in the 3-5 range next year. Obviously if things go our way and especially if there are some first year coaching set backs at a couple of programs in our division we could do much better. Bowl eligible would be mission accomplished for me.

Tough schedule as usual for ECU. OOC vs JMu, WVU, VT, and BYU. Hoping for a bowl but finding 6+ wins could be tough.

We don't have a proven QB or offensive line. The defense needs major improvement and ability to create some turnovers.

Coach is doing well recruiting and bringing in some nice looking Juco help.

We do have 7 home games which should help getting to bowl eligibility. 6-7 wins is a good year next year for coach Mo. Need to keep building.
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(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  since we are done with bowls a look our teams in 2017


Contenders?:


Temple: League champs, big loses on defense and sean chandler might declare early...qb and rb gone..new coach...next year is a defining season for temple, was it just the golden era of temple that just passed or is it a new standard

Huh? Al Golden is back at Temple, who knew? 03-lmfao
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(12-29-2016 09:49 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  
(12-29-2016 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  since we are done with bowls a look our teams in 2017


Contenders?:


Temple: League champs, big loses on defense and sean chandler might declare early...qb and rb gone..new coach...next year is a defining season for temple, was it just the golden era of temple that just passed or is it a new standard

Huh? Al Golden is back at Temple, who knew? 03-lmfao

i didnt even think of that pun till now...i didnt mean to make a pun
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(12-29-2016 09:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  i think a realistic expectation for UC next year is 6-6.

when you have a talented team playing bad, its hard to tell expectations with a new coach
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Tulsa wont lose a *** **** game in 2017
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(12-29-2016 10:03 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Tulsa wont lose a *** **** recruit in 2017

FIFY and congrats for losing any of the 3 or 4 star recruits.
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i dont get it
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Nice breakdown Pesik.

Tulsa gets hurt by losing our qb, 2 recievers, and 2 linebackers. We have pretty good recievers coming up so QB and LB are my biggest concerns.

The positives are we get our whole coaching staff back, our whole O Line (which is becoming a powerhouse unit), the 1b running back, and on D most of the D line and Secondary.

I think we could be pretty darn good if our QB can throw the ball well (we know he can run well if it's President) and the LB unit can be decent.
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Memphis starts next year with early stages of an all SEC defense developing.
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Tulsa's 2017 record will be contingent on our next QB. We return a 1000 yard rusher, have very good WRs & return a very good o-line. Our defense should be improved. QB is the wildcard, will it be a transfer or underclassman??
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