(11-10-2016 09:57 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 09:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 05:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  And another thing...If Cali exits...the balance of power in the US is even more Red.

And it becomes a smaller, less influential country, losing $2.5T of GDP and falling behind the EU as a whole.

Give me a minute, I'm thinking.

Okay I'm done...

Bye

after reading through the thread.....yup, that sums it up....

Just getting rid of CARB regulations would be an economic boom for every business in America that had to follow their foolish regulations. It costs our company close to 10 grand per year in lab testing costs.

(11-10-2016 11:42 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I thought conservatives loved secession? The celebrations of Brexit were constant on this board. Or is it you only like that talk when it's for a reason you agree with?

I know this conservative would just LOVE for (as the tv program calls it) Californication) to leave the union. I'm tingly with expectation. Yes, yes, do go, please. Oh pretty please. A safe space for all the nut jobs our country has right now.

Where can I sign your petition?

(11-10-2016 12:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  When California seceded, build a wall around it to keep the nutty progressives out.

No need. Just make it doubly hard for them to immigrate to OUR united states. They can take Oregon and Washington.

Rocky Mountains make a pretty good wall...that would work.

We won't have to worry about them chumming up to Russia. Remember Angry Tom said Putin wanted them in prisons.

Please go, pretty please and take Fit with you.

Okay, as a second part of this wonderful idea: How many of you Libturds would move to California? I'm counting here, okay?

California actually has a legitimate argument for secession. They send 50% more to DC than they get back. Their votes count 1/4 of Wyoming's.

(11-10-2016 10:24 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  California actually has a legitimate argument for secession. They send 50% more to DC than they get back. Their votes count 1/4 of Wyoming's.

You're absolutely right. Another reason to leave. Please.

(11-10-2016 09:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 05:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  And another thing...If Cali exits...the balance of power in the US is even more Red.

And it becomes a smaller, less influential country, losing $2.5T of GDP and falling behind the EU as a whole.

With the companies that would leave Cali in that event, probably not so much.

I hope it gets on the ballot. Symbolic as it would be

There is a movement in Oregon to get it on the next ballot. CA, OR, WA, and NV could form their own country


GTS we need a country realignment forum ASAP!!!

(11-10-2016 11:10 PM)solohawks Wrote:  There is a movement in Oregon to get it on the next ballot. CA, OR, WA, and NV could form their own country


GTS we need a country realignment forum ASAP!!!

None of those other states wants to play the little brother role to California. Interesting dynamics out here.

These goobers should read the Texas v. White decision penned by Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase.

(11-10-2016 09:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 05:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  And another thing...If Cali exits...the balance of power in the US is even more Red.

And it becomes a smaller, less influential country, losing $2.5T of GDP and falling behind the EU as a whole.

Who cares. We'd be more united, and as a result, stronger overall.

(11-11-2016 10:26 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 09:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 05:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  And another thing...If Cali exits...the balance of power in the US is even more Red.

And it becomes a smaller, less influential country, losing $2.5T of GDP and falling behind the EU as a whole.

Who cares. We'd be more united, and as a result, stronger overall.

There you go. Red-US doesn't want Cali and Cali doesn't want Red-US. This is going to happen. What is the combined GDP of the Northeast, I wonder? Probably close to that of California. The US is going to be so different without NYC and Boston.

I wonder if we'd really lose ALL that GDP. California would still need to sell its foods and much of the GDP from farming is generated away from the farm. I know there's much more to Cali than farming, but that's a substantial contributor. Lots of other industries are similar.



Having said that, the only parts of Cali that are 'strong left' are the coastal areas. MOST of the state (by area) is pretty conservative. Trump won near half the counties and was competitive in many others... but he lost LA and San Fran and their huge populations by like 80%/12%

If I remember correctly, California is like the major significant source of several types of fruit and vegetables, to the US.

Whereas I assume every other state (except maybe Florida?) the dominate commodity crops are soybeans and/or corn.


This is: I think soybeans and corn are much easier to make last a while, than fruit and vegetables. Say, for example, if you wanted to ship them to China, Europe, etc.

something tells me that Mpls has never been to Texas...

Cali is #1 for fruits (especially grapes), nuts (especially almonds and pistachios), milk and I believe Poultry. Yes, the land of fruits and nuts.

Much of it is exported though as it doesn't meet our own standards. You can only make so much dog food