Darrell Hazell, a winner in the MAC, is now available. Go get him NIU!

(10-16-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 09:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 08:56 PM)niu_1087 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 08:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Pretty shocking how bad the program has become. Over the last 10 games, NIU is 1 - 9 and only played with a lead a total of 40 minutes (out of 600 minutes of football). Wyoming and Ball State are the only two teams NIU has gotten a lead against during that span and an FCS team went wire to wire against the Huskies in Huskie Stadium.

It's a total and utter collapse of a program, anyway you look at it.

It really is an epic free fall.

Maybe that luck quotient finally caught up with them. NIU should have 3 wins this year. It is such an odd thing to watch, they can't close out games yet they pretty much exchanged punch for punch on the road with one of the better teams in the nation in K-Zoo. It is a downward trend but it is just impossible not to wonder where our minds would be given competent coaching. Program is not void of talent given the ability to compete evenly against top 25 competition.

I think it is more a sign of a bad team. Seems like bad teams always hang in games they have no business being in and lose to teams they should destroy. Even in the second half of the Ball State game, NIU had multiple chances to close the door and kept letting Ball State hang around. NIU has not played a complete game yet this season and at this rate may not.

(10-16-2016 04:45 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 04:28 PM)JB04 Wrote:  Pittman would be a great candidate, but earns over $600k in a role that has several years of stability.

I like Matt Canada too as he is throwing up some points in his first year as Pitts OC, but he too is earning about $600k and was just hired so he seems to have several years of cushion.

So I don't know if we could even afford those guys, or if they even want to come. I have a feeling SF has guys in mind and have nothing to do with our love fest for past coaches. I still am 50/50 we even do anything after the season, solely based on money we don't have

The only way we get those types of coordinators is if they aspire to be a HC at a P5 making a few mil. They need to be a HC at the G5 level to get there with a resume.

I disagree. That used to be the case that big programs wanted a head coach from the mid majors, but now you are seeing a lot big teams go after coordinators of already big programs. I'm not gonna try to drum up examples for the sake of time, but it is more prevalent now

(10-16-2016 07:38 PM)JB04 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 04:45 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 04:28 PM)JB04 Wrote:  Pittman would be a great candidate, but earns over $600k in a role that has several years of stability.

I like Matt Canada too as he is throwing up some points in his first year as Pitts OC, but he too is earning about $600k and was just hired so he seems to have several years of cushion.

So I don't know if we could even afford those guys, or if they even want to come. I have a feeling SF has guys in mind and have nothing to do with our love fest for past coaches. I still am 50/50 we even do anything after the season, solely based on money we don't have

The only way we get those types of coordinators is if they aspire to be a HC at a P5 making a few mil. They need to be a HC at the G5 level to get there with a resume.

I disagree. That used to be the case that big programs wanted a head coach from the mid majors, but now you are seeing a lot big teams go after coordinators of already big programs. I'm not gonna try to drum up examples for the sake of time, but it is more prevalent now

Big program coordinators sure, like the bama/osu/ou of the world. Thats not Pitt or Canada or Hammock

Your right...the top dog coordinators for sure. I'll eat crow on that

(10-16-2016 06:16 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 09:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 08:56 PM)niu_1087 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 08:53 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Pretty shocking how bad the program has become. Over the last 10 games, NIU is 1 - 9 and only played with a lead a total of 40 minutes (out of 600 minutes of football). Wyoming and Ball State are the only two teams NIU has gotten a lead against during that span and an FCS team went wire to wire against the Huskies in Huskie Stadium.

It's a total and utter collapse of a program, anyway you look at it.

It really is an epic free fall.

Maybe that luck quotient finally caught up with them. NIU should have 3 wins this year. It is such an odd thing to watch, they can't close out games yet they pretty much exchanged punch for punch on the road with one of the better teams in the nation in K-Zoo. It is a downward trend but it is just impossible not to wonder where our minds would be given competent coaching. Program is not void of talent given the ability to compete evenly against top 25 competition.

I think it is more a sign of a bad team. Seems like bad teams always hang in games they have no business being in and lose to teams they should destroy. Even in the second half of the Ball State game, NIU had multiple chances to close the door and kept letting Ball State hang around. NIU has not played a complete game yet this season and at this rate may not.

Its not a team in the top half of college football, but certainly not as bad as a bottom 10 or bottom 15 team. That is proven by the fact NIU went toe to toe with a couple of top 20 teams. Coaching is a huge huge issue obviously.

Worst coaching I have ever seen. The poor game management, mind-boggling personnel deciscisions, rampant penalties, horrendous tackling, sticking with what doesn't work, disgusting game planning, and those are only the things I can see from afar. Can you imagine what else is going on behind the scenes? Every game has been agonizing. Our players, fans, and alumni deserve so much better than this. It's beyond ridiculous...

(10-16-2016 08:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 06:16 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(10-16-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 09:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 08:56 PM)niu_1087 Wrote:  

I think it is more a sign of a bad team. Seems like bad teams always hang in games they have no business being in and lose to teams they should destroy. Even in the second half of the Ball State game, NIU had multiple chances to close the door and kept letting Ball State hang around. NIU has not played a complete game yet this season and at this rate may not.

Its not a team in the top half of college football, but certainly not as bad as a bottom 10 or bottom 15 team. That is proven by the fact NIU went toe to toe with a couple of top 20 teams. Coaching is a huge huge issue obviously.

Toe to toe seems like a stretch. NIU got run over by both USF and San Diego State. They hung around against WMU but Western went up early and never trailed once. Being down three TDs in the fourth quarter at home to an FCS team is bad. The penalties, stalled drives, terrible defense and poor special teams that have plagued this team all season are bad.

With BG, Buffalo, and Kent still on the schedule maybe NIU can scrape together a couple wins and climb out of that bottom 15 but is being a bottom 30 team really that much different. Finishing 4 - 8 with your only wins against bottom feeder MAC programs might keep you out of the basement but what does that really do for your program in the grand scheme.

(10-15-2016 06:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Plenty of talent in place. Just need a competent staff.

Disagree completely..

We have no talent which is part of the problem

(10-16-2016 08:46 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I don't know if there is a quick or easy fix to this mess. Just like winning breeds winning, losing breeds losing. We are 1-9 in our last 10 games, and we have nowhere hit bottom. We need a new coaching staff and better recruits. In other words, a good house cleaning. That will take time, assuming that STF is even interested instead of putting positive spins on this mess.

+1000000

You look at next years depth chart/starters and you just start to cry..with Graham leading the way as qb

(10-17-2016 08:52 AM)cartershaw Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 06:37 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Plenty of talent in place. Just need a competent staff.

Disagree completely..

We have no talent which is part of the problem

Hahaha, this isn't true. But I understand your frustration. Look no further than Rod Carey and staff.

We have little talent at QB. It's stupid to keep playing Maddie at this point because he will not be here next year. He will probably improve toward the end of the season, but so what? Play the future QBs to give them experience and see what they can do. This season has gone down the tubes, anyway. Prepare for the future.

Just curious, who was the last MAC coach to get let go after one bad season? I cannot imagine it happens often.

(10-17-2016 09:51 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Just curious, who was the last MAC coach to get let go after one bad season? I cannot imagine it happens often.

You may be right but this team has been trending downward since Carey took over. What makes you think next year will be any better? Do we just resign ourselves to another dismal season? We have no potential difference makers waiting in the wings because this staff cannot evaluate talent.

(10-17-2016 09:24 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  We have little talent at QB. It's stupid to keep playing Maddie at this point because he will not be here next year. He will probably improve toward the end of the season, but so what? Play the future QBs to give them experience and see what they can do. This season has gone down the tubes, anyway. Prepare for the future.

Problem is Rodney Hall does not get here till next year. So you are looking at Santa and/or Childers. I've given up on Graham as a starter, probably a decent backup.

I'm sure the coach will be hoping to salvage some wins against Buffalo, BG and Kent State so the year doesn't look so horrible even if in our best long-term interests. I doubt he'll be playing any other QBs. I mean, at RB we play JB with occasional runs by Huff and nobody else sees the light of day.

Rebuild NIU football? OK.

New coaching staff
Remodel the stadium to be the best 30,000 seats in all of CFB
Put the student tailgating areas directly next to the stadium
Find a howitzer to signal touchdowns
Make sure the TV cameras are pointed towards where the crowds are fullest
Fix PA system
Something something hotdogs
Something something $4 waters
Melt PigDog into commemorative belt buckles
You a coach of a HS football team? Get your team and your supporters to the game and here's 80 free tickets

(10-17-2016 09:24 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  We have little talent at QB. It's stupid to keep playing Maddie at this point because he will not be here next year. He will probably improve toward the end of the season, but so what? Play the future QBs to give them experience and see what they can do. This season has gone down the tubes, anyway. Prepare for the future.

I agree, even though I like Maddie and want him to have some reward for working so hard and hanging in there. We need to at least work our other QB's in the mix the rest of the season. This season has been very hard on all of us, we are not used to this, but happy for Maddie, he got to play and also play well. If they are going to make a coaching change, sooner would be better.... Tons of coached that are ready for the next step know what NIU is about, they will come and show case their talents. All is not lost...

I'm just praying we don't lose any of these commits. I really do believe if they can hang onto them it will be one of our most successful classes. And something tells me Weiman might be up first over if they don't move him elsewhere.

(10-17-2016 09:51 AM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Just curious, who was the last MAC coach to get let go after one bad season? I cannot imagine it happens often.

this is probably the closest comparison in the MAC, he got 2 years though

8. Rob Ianello, Akron, 2009

“We are extremely excited to name Rob Ianello as our new head football coach. He demonstrated to us a clear plan on how to build a complete championship program.” – Tom Wistrcill, Akron’s athletics director

After Charlie Weis was canned by Notre Dame in 2009, Akron surveyed the wreckage and decided: “We must have Rob Ianello, Weis’ wide receivers coach, to lead our program!” And so they hired him. Two years later they fired him after a 2-22 record – the only wins coming over Buffalo and VMI. If you think that’s bad, try this: Wistrcill called Ianello with the news that he was out of a job while the coach was on the way to his mother’s funeral. Yeah. Really. Classy. Wistrcill deserved a 2-22 program.

What did we learn? Maybe don’t give a head coaching job to an assistant coach from a failed program.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/12/26/gallo...-football/