Official now that Roback is the starter. Creighton apparently said they're "prepping for Porter's injury to be long term."

(10-03-2016 11:16 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:36 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:10 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  Not getting my hopes up for this one. If we can somehow go 1-2 over the next 3 games, I will be so thrilled. The only realistic chance might be against Ohio.

I'm hoping for a competitive game, and for our offense to sustain drives like they did in the 2nd half against BG. Toledo can be run on...let's try to wear them down and keep our defense off the field as much as possible. Woodside should have a field day against our young secondary. Not getting down big early is key.

Sam,

I agree. If we can get to the second level, Toledo's secondary looked vulnerable against BYU and maybe Erickson or Turner could spring a long run. We are going to have to play our very best to keep the game competitive.

Agree with both. Only way we keep it under the line, is clock sustaining drives and keeping their offense off the field. Also need to win the turnover battle.

Huge opportunity for Brogan to prove he's the guy going forward. Start by committing ZERO turnovers. Their defense has some holes in it, so if we can mix the run and pass, we should be able to score some points. 20-30 is realistic. Brogan has the arm, a healthy OLine, many more offensive weapons, and DeBoer doing a good job, so there are literally no more excuses. If we can somehow push it close to 40 (defense or special teams scores), who knows what might happen.

Let's start by being competitive, and avoiding another Mizzou showing.

Got to play essentially mistake free on offense, get some special teams help, and try to slow them down a bit - hoping we can limit missed time due to injuries.

Odds are not good, but I don't think Toledo is invincible - especially their defense.

Roback gives us a better chance to win. No dumb interceptions and stay motivated.

(10-03-2016 10:43 AM)emu_fan101 Wrote:  Slightly off topic but why are Toledo fans such a**holes? I mean seriously they're insufferable.

If mean an occasional Rocket will stop by this board to post congrats on a win or wish the Eagles good luck-yeah we're insufferable.

Dear Boca Rocket,
It's what is said on your board. You can say whatever you want, but some of it is insufferable.

(10-03-2016 11:38 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:43 AM)emu_fan101 Wrote:  Slightly off topic but why are Toledo fans such a**holes? I mean seriously they're insufferable.

If mean an occasional Rocket will stop by this board to post congrats on a win or wish the Eagles good luck-yeah we're insufferable.

CMU and Ohio fans - waaaaayyy worse than anything Toledo brings

(10-03-2016 11:38 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:43 AM)emu_fan101 Wrote:  Slightly off topic but why are Toledo fans such a**holes? I mean seriously they're insufferable.

If mean an occasional Rocket will stop by this board to post congrats on a win or wish the Eagles good luck-yeah we're insufferable.

Take a look at the top threads of the MAC board. There is no need for it, how often do we get to start 4-1? They should let us enjoy it.

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(10-03-2016 11:41 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Boca Rocket,
It's what is said on your board. You can say whatever you want, but some of it is insufferable.

Why would you search out stuff you find insufferable?
EMU's got a good season going so far with a chance to be Bowl eligible. The rest of the schedule will not be not easy. It could easily end up coming down to the CMU game to get a Bowl Bid. Roback is a good QB, who can win some MAC games. Relax, enjoy the season.

Dear Boca Rocket,
I do not search out things that are insufferable. I visit other boards to see what they think of other teams, and what they are thinking of their teams. If I come across information that I believe is wrong, I may offer a point of view to correct misinformation. The point being, people on all boards sometimes only offer sophomoric comments thinking they are the cool thing to say to a response. That's what becomes insufferable.

(10-03-2016 11:57 AM)Huron Boy Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 11:38 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:43 AM)emu_fan101 Wrote:  Slightly off topic but why are Toledo fans such a**holes? I mean seriously they're insufferable.

If mean an occasional Rocket will stop by this board to post congrats on a win or wish the Eagles good luck-yeah we're insufferable.

CMU and Ohio fans - waaaaayyy worse than anything Toledo brings

You can add NIU fans to the equation, but they're getting their comeuppance this season.

I think there's a mix of good/bad with every fan base on here. Many NIU fans sympathize with us because they were once just as bad of a program. But still, you're always going to have the d-bags that have some "pie in the sky" expectation for the MAC, who think we are killing the conference. In reality, VERY few people outside of the Midwest care about MAC football, and even less have any clue about our struggles.

For example, I had a long sleeve EMU shirt on while in Denver on vacation this year. A guy noticed it at the airport and said he "saw our coach on SportsCenter and loves how animated he is with the boat rowing thing". I told him that was WMU, and he asked if EMU was that good as well. People are clueless, and that is understandable. We are a regional conference.

Honestly if Miami or Kent State or Akron or any other school that has been down a little in football started 4-1 against our schedule the main message board would be celebrating that as a great accomplishment and wouldn't have questioned it. I just don't get the vendetta that a large number of the MAC fans have against us. It's not like the fans on this board are the cause of all of EMU's problems.

Whatever though. It should continue to be used as motivation to continue to close the gap. This game Saturday if EMU found a way to win could be the program changing win that a lot of us have been hoping for.

(10-03-2016 02:41 PM)TheCrumbIsHere Wrote:  Honestly if Miami or Kent State or Akron or any other school that has been down a little in football started 4-1 against our schedule the main message board would be celebrating that as a great accomplishment and wouldn't have questioned it. I just don't get the vendetta that a large number of the MAC fans have against us. It's not like the fans on this board are the cause of all of EMU's problems.

Whatever though. It should continue to be used as motivation to continue to close the gap. This game Saturday if EMU found a way to win could be the program changing win that a lot of us have been hoping for.

I'm not flaming here.

If Miami had a bounce back, I would not be celebrating. They are the best MAC program in history, no doubt. But their recent struggles bring the conference down. MAC fans dislike EMU mostly because they have poor attendance and have been terrible in a conference that is constantly trying to gain respect. Trust me, CMU went 3-9 back to back in 2010 and 2011 and we got chirped hard for it after being the top MAC team for some time. It goes both ways and no team is safe from it. Look how BG quickly turned into a laughing stock, same with NIU (love chirping them).

So yes, if we were like that for an extended period of time I would expect the same treatment. It's not some conspiracy or anything. And I know coming on your board pisses people off. EMU should be celebrating 4-1 because that is what fans do. As long as most people are reasonable and aren't clamoring that EMU is going to win the MAC, there shouldn't be much of a problem. I wish we were 4-1 opposed to 3-2.

(10-03-2016 02:56 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 02:41 PM)TheCrumbIsHere Wrote:  Honestly if Miami or Kent State or Akron or any other school that has been down a little in football started 4-1 against our schedule the main message board would be celebrating that as a great accomplishment and wouldn't have questioned it. I just don't get the vendetta that a large number of the MAC fans have against us. It's not like the fans on this board are the cause of all of EMU's problems.

Whatever though. It should continue to be used as motivation to continue to close the gap. This game Saturday if EMU found a way to win could be the program changing win that a lot of us have been hoping for.

MAC fans dislike EMU mostly because they have poor attendance and have been terrible in a conference that is constantly trying to gain respect.

If that is actually the case, then these "fans" truly are dumber than they seem. Gaining respect as a conference starts at the top. If our best teams aren't beating other conferences' best teams, then we aren't going to gain respect. Nobody cares how our bottom teams compare to others. It would be like blaming Purdue or Illinois for MSU getting smoked by Alabama last year.

As for the attendance issue, no one (outside of the loons, like you, on these boards) actually cares how many people show up to a MAC football game. The hilarious attendance pi**ing contest by teams that average a quarter of what BCS schools attend is far more embarrassing than anything EMU related.

(10-03-2016 03:17 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 02:56 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 02:41 PM)TheCrumbIsHere Wrote:  Honestly if Miami or Kent State or Akron or any other school that has been down a little in football started 4-1 against our schedule the main message board would be celebrating that as a great accomplishment and wouldn't have questioned it. I just don't get the vendetta that a large number of the MAC fans have against us. It's not like the fans on this board are the cause of all of EMU's problems.

Whatever though. It should continue to be used as motivation to continue to close the gap. This game Saturday if EMU found a way to win could be the program changing win that a lot of us have been hoping for.

MAC fans dislike EMU mostly because they have poor attendance and have been terrible in a conference that is constantly trying to gain respect.

If that is actually the case, then these "fans" truly are dumber than they seem. Gaining respect as a conference starts at the top. If our best teams aren't beating other conferences' best teams, then we aren't going to gain respect. Nobody cares how our bottom teams compare to others. It would be like blaming Purdue or Illinois for MSU getting smoked by Alabama last year.

As for the attendance issue, no one (outside of the loons, like you, on these boards) actually cares how many people show up to a MAC football game. The hilarious attendance pi**ing contest by teams that average a quarter of what BCS schools attend is far more embarrassing than anything EMU related.

Exactly! I am sure the Big 10 is judged on Rutgers, the SEC by Vanderbilt and the Big 12 by Kansas. Give me a break. BTW, ever see Kansas' attendance? Been there a few times and let's just say it's MAC-level, but nobody gives a rip or obsesses on it.

(10-03-2016 03:17 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  If that is actually the case, then these "fans" truly are dumber than they seem. Gaining respect as a conference starts at the top. If our best teams aren't beating other conferences' best teams, then we aren't going to gain respect. Nobody cares how our bottom teams compare to others. It would be like blaming Purdue or Illinois for MSU getting smoked by Alabama last year.

As for the attendance issue, no one (outside of the loons, like you, on these boards) actually cares how many people show up to a MAC football game. The hilarious attendance pi**ing contest by teams that average a quarter of what BCS schools attend is far more embarrassing than anything EMU related.

Then we simply disagree. I know numerous people who are MSU/UM grads who despise teams like Rutgers and Purdue because they make the conference look weak when they win 2 games a year. Same goes for Kansas who is an abomination of a B12 team. It's not blaming them for the conference failures, it's more so seeing how teams at the bottom don't pull their weight. Having gone 3-9 before, yeah it sucks to see teams at the top pull their weight.

No need to call for personal shots here. I think what I said was reasonable. If you feel like you should personally attack me, then fine, go ahead and do it I guess. Just don't crucify me when I can point to EMU's career failures. There are a million threads about EMU attendance and let me guess, all of them are by "loons"? And you are the genius in the room who determines it's a moot point? No. It's a two way street dude. You hate it because EMU is a garbage program with garbage attendance. If it were flipped you would be dogging the next fanbase.

(10-03-2016 03:34 PM)george14 Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 03:17 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  If that is actually the case, then these "fans" truly are dumber than they seem. Gaining respect as a conference starts at the top. If our best teams aren't beating other conferences' best teams, then we aren't going to gain respect. Nobody cares how our bottom teams compare to others. It would be like blaming Purdue or Illinois for MSU getting smoked by Alabama last year.

As for the attendance issue, no one (outside of the loons, like you, on these boards) actually cares how many people show up to a MAC football game. The hilarious attendance pi**ing contest by teams that average a quarter of what BCS schools attend is far more embarrassing than anything EMU related.

Then we simply disagree. I know numerous people who are MSU/UM grads who despise teams like Rutgers and Purdue because they make the conference look weak when they win 2 games a year. Same goes for Kansas who is an abomination of a B12 team. It's not blaming them for the conference failures, it's more so seeing how teams at the bottom don't pull their weight. Having gone 3-9 before, yeah it sucks to see teams at the top pull their weight.

No need to call for personal shots here. I think what I said was reasonable. If you feel like you should personally attack me, then fine, go ahead and do it I guess. Just don't crucify me when I can point to EMU's career failures. There are a million threads about EMU attendance and let me guess, all of them are by "loons"? And you are the genius in the room who determines it's a moot point? No. It's a two way street dude. You hate it because EMU is a garbage program with garbage attendance. If it were flipped you would be dogging the next fanbase.

George you had a good posting until the end. Then you put it in the dumpster with your garbage comment. If you think central is so much higher up than Eastern because they get a few more butts in the seat you're an idiot. The Mac is irrelevant and you can stop living in your fantasy world. The rest of FBS average is 40000 + people at games. When is the last time Central did that?

Perspective, George, perspective.

As someone who grew up, went to, and covered the MAC, I can assure you the MAC is barely a blip on the radar. Nobody really gives the MAC much thought and fewer can actually name the teams in the MAC. Now, being a MAC ex-pat in the heart of Big 12 country (in Oklahoma) for the past eight years, I can assure you that nobody cares one whit about EMU or MAC attendance or its supposed bottom-feeders. They do know the MAC can usually be counted on for some high-scoring entertaining games and that's alright and I love being able to tweak them when the MAC jumps up and bites them in their haughty backsides.

Also, talk about bottom-feeders is laughable because, well, every conference has to have teams in the top-middle-and yes -- bottom. But nobody judges a conference by its bottom teams.

Funny, I haven't met anybody, especially "numerous" MSU/UM grads who despise Rutgers or Purdue, teams they know they can usually count on as wins. This is the same as it was for years in the Big Ten with Northwestern, Minnesota and even Wisconsin.

Is anyone else concerned with the Sophomore slump it appears Eddie Daugherty is in? There are 8 guys ahead of him in receiving yards and no TDs. He currently has 10 rec. for 50 yards through 5 games. Through 6 games last year he already eclipsed the 100 yard mark three times. Don't get me wrong I am loving the contributions from Kilby, Bailey, Niupalau, and Porter, but really thought he was turning into a big time WR for us. Maybe it was easier to shine with less competition and hopefully this helps him work harder to elevate his game.

I think your last sentence hit the nail on the head. He was one of the only guys (maybe THE only guy) who could get open somewhat consistently last season. This year, I've been impressed with the crop of newcomers at WR, especially Bailey. Roback appears to have a pretty good rapport with him.

Yeah, I think Daugherty's stats last year were inflated. Bailey is among the top 10 (mayyyybe top 5) receivers in the MAC. Guy has awesome speed and great hands, as we saw with his rip-it-away TD. Quickest receiver we've had in a long time (Kinsman Thomas?).

Killby is also tough to defend. Having an ENORMOUS tight end come off the line on a delay and get picked up by safetys or LBs is an advantage, and attractive option for the QB. Niupalau also is proving himself as a tough-to-cover, big WR.

All that said, Daugherty is definitely valuable. He'll find his spot as a reliable slot receiver. He's just not our #1 receiver.