panama
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
LOL
Wut
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09-22-2016 08:28 AM |
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mturn017
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Solid first post.
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09-22-2016 08:40 AM |
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nsavandal09
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
I wonder how much of this is related to the massive losses Louisiana is taking from the price of oil. This spring there was a lot of talk about how they may shut down athletic departments or even consolidate some of the smaller colleges.
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09-22-2016 09:05 AM |
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CajunB
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:40 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Solid first post.
Are you the welcoming committee?
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09-22-2016 09:13 AM |
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bullitt_60
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
I've seen Charlie Cobb in person. He's kind of hard to miss.
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09-22-2016 09:18 AM |
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arkstfan
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
If it is fake, it is well done, thus I don't believe it is fake but I could find out easily enough (as could any of you) by sending an FOI request to your AD.
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09-22-2016 09:29 AM |
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TheEagleWay
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
I haven't heard a comeback like that since 5th grade lunch period.
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09-22-2016 09:33 AM |
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CajunB
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:33 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
I haven't heard a comeback like that since 5th grade lunch period.
Not a comeback.
The ULM AD has been telling his fans that he was trying to get a 6th home game for years. This shows that he was actively preventing a 6th game because he thinks his fans cannot purchase a season ticket package with 6 games. Thats fake.
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09-22-2016 09:35 AM |
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panama
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:18 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
I've seen Charlie Cobb in person. He's kind of hard to miss.
Big and lumbering would be my description.
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09-22-2016 09:40 AM |
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BamaCajun
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
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Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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09-22-2016 09:53 AM |
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mturn017
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (09-21-2016 04:30 PM)panama Wrote: el oh el
When I see this in the news then I will believe it.
See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
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09-22-2016 09:54 AM |
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Arrowhead
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Unfortunately, I think it's real, but again I think he is just saying we couldn't absorb a 6th game if we have to pay UNM $400k. I have spoken with him many times about scheduling and unless he was blatantly lying, he wants 6 home games at least every other year. In fact as Bluephi said, he is still wanting 6 for that year, but wants a more regional team that doesn't cost as much and will draw better. Should have not agreed to the deal in the first place. If paying that kind of money should be someone like Mississipi St.
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09-22-2016 10:17 AM |
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BamaCajun
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Mea culpa.
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09-22-2016 10:25 AM |
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chiefsfan
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
And today on SBCBBS, we find out who Panama is actually a fan of...
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09-22-2016 10:42 AM |
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MWC Tex
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 10:17 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Unfortunately, I think it's real, but again I think he is just saying we couldn't absorb a 6th game if we have to pay UNM $400k. I have spoken with him many times about scheduling and unless he was blatantly lying, he wants 6 home games at least every other year. In fact as Bluephi said, he is still wanting 6 for that year, but wants a more regional team that doesn't cost as much and will draw better. Should have not agreed to the deal in the first place. If paying that kind of money should be someone like Mississipi St.
To break even, you need 15,000 fans paying $27. That shouldn't be an issue for a FBS school. Otherwise, ULM shouldn't be in FBS. (and I use 15k because that is the required threshold to stay FBS.)
(This post was last modified: 09-22-2016 10:47 AM by MWC Tex.)
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09-22-2016 10:46 AM |
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chiefsfan
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 10:46 AM)MWC Tex Wrote: (09-22-2016 10:17 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
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No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Unfortunately, I think it's real, but again I think he is just saying we couldn't absorb a 6th game if we have to pay UNM $400k. I have spoken with him many times about scheduling and unless he was blatantly lying, he wants 6 home games at least every other year. In fact as Bluephi said, he is still wanting 6 for that year, but wants a more regional team that doesn't cost as much and will draw better. Should have not agreed to the deal in the first place. If paying that kind of money should be someone like Mississipi St.
To break even, you need 15,000 fans paying $27. That shouldn't be an issue for a FBS school. Otherwise, ULM shouldn't be in FBS. (and I use 15k because that is the required threshold to stay FBS.)
Most SBC schools don't charge $27 per game, so that number actually has to go up.
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09-22-2016 10:49 AM |
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BirdofParadise
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
Ok, first of all, let's get off the idea the email may be a fake. It was the result of a FOI request.
And, if you believe the explanation about the 400K and not being able to pass it on to fans, then you look at what that implies: The school's athletic budget can't handle the hit. If that isn't a sign of real financial trouble then there is no such thing as a sign.
If the $400,000 price ticket was too much, then the AD and the president were foolish for letting it happen in the first place.
In the email Wickstrom says there hasn't been six home games in about 15 years. You finally get it done and then decide you can't afford to get it done.
If I'm Matt Viator, I'm pissed right now.
But that brings up something else: It is past time for ULM to either make a serious commitment to athletics or give up the ghost. I do NOT believe the current president really cares whether athletics succeeds or fails, despite his posturing (that is just my opinion, but I'm not the only one who has it.)
Time to fish or cut bait.
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09-22-2016 11:14 AM |
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panama
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
Kind of shocking
Move over Idaho
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09-22-2016 11:35 AM |
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panama
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: (09-21-2016 06:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: See it in the "news"? Dude their AD sent an email to every other AD begging them to take the game for $400k. That is all the proof you need. The reason was fans can't afford 6 games on the season ticket package.
Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using CSNbbs mobile app
No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Well I do have GSU stuff all over my house...
I'll hang up and listen
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09-22-2016 11:36 AM |
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GoBigRed26
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RE: ULM in serious $$$$ trouble.
(09-22-2016 10:17 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:54 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (09-22-2016 09:53 AM)BamaCajun Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:18 AM)CajunB Wrote: (09-22-2016 08:03 AM)panama Wrote: Looks fake and if real their AD should be fired today.
1) that is not how you handle business
2) our fans can't pay for 6 games is laughable.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Its not fake. Your AD is fake.
Panama is not a monroe guy. App State I believe.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using CSNbbs mobile app
No Panama is a Georgia Southern fan. He's probably got GSU stuff all over his house.
Unfortunately, I think it's real, but again I think he is just saying we couldn't absorb a 6th game if we have to pay UNM $400k. I have spoken with him many times about scheduling and unless he was blatantly lying, he wants 6 home games at least every other year. In fact as Bluephi said, he is still wanting 6 for that year, but wants a more regional team that doesn't cost as much and will draw better. Should have not agreed to the deal in the first place. If paying that kind of money should be someone like Mississipi St.
I don't think you understand how a Home & Home works. In the contract, the home team pays the visiting team. So, this year when ya'll go to Albuquerque, New Mexico should pay ULM $400,000. It's a zero sum series. It's to offset the travel cost for that year for the visiting team since the home team gets money from ticket sales. Scheduling a "regional team" that doesn't cost as much makes no sense. Sure you may pay them $200k to visit Monroe, but they will pay you $200k to visit them also, so its no difference. What it comes down to, is ULM does not have enough money to have 6 home games and is heavily dependent on they "money games" from playing P5's. If your AD is able to get rid of the game, he basically has a $400k money game this year, which is way less than he could have got had he scheduled an actual money game instead of a home/home series.
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09-22-2016 11:45 AM |
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