(09-19-2016 03:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  We are literally in uncharted territory in ACC football right now. This conference has NEVER been this good.

The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

The ACC has great potential. Look at this:

Clemson
FSU
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Miami
North Carolina i
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia Tech

If these schools consistently crank it up again look put:

Boston College
Duke
North Carolina State
Virginia
Wake Forest

And Notrre Dame joins look out SEC!

(09-19-2016 03:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  We are literally in uncharted territory in ACC football right now. This conference has NEVER been this good.

The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

Please. I hope you mean "prior to the last few years".

Here was the final AP poll. The ACC had zero top ten teams, and three ranked teams total, and not one ACC team finished above the MAC champion.

Nobody judges a conference by how good the second or third worst team is. The ACC only had two teams in the top 25 going into bowl season.

But it's a good example how strength in the middle has been the ACC's standard and it's been terrible for the football image.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla.)
6. Michigan
7. Georgia
8. Iowa
9. Washington State
10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Florida State
12. Texas
13. Mississippi
14. Kansas State
15. Tennessee
16. Boise State
17. Maryland
18. Purdue
19. Nebraska
20. Minnesota
21. Utah
22. Clemson
23. Bowling Green
24. Florida
25. TCU

(09-20-2016 12:25 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  We are literally in uncharted territory in ACC football right now. This conference has NEVER been this good.

The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

Please. I hope you mean "prior to the last few years".

Here was the final AP poll. The ACC had zero top ten teams, and three ranked teams total, and not one ACC team finished above the MAC champion.

Nobody judges a conference by how good the second or third worst team is. The ACC only had two teams in the top 25 going into bowl season.

But it's a good example how strength in the middle has been the ACC's standard and it's been terrible for the football image.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla.)
6. Michigan
7. Georgia
8. Iowa
9. Washington State
10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Florida State
12. Texas
13. Mississippi
14. Kansas State
15. Tennessee
16. Boise State
17. Maryland
18. Purdue
19. Nebraska
20. Minnesota
21. Utah
22. Clemson
23. Bowling Green
24. Florida
25. TCU

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sag...onference/


My memory is hazy. Corrections:

1) That wasn't the year GT was in the Seattle Bowl. That was Chan Gailey's first year. Bleech. Nevermind GT.
2) IT wasn't Duke that was historically bad it was UNC.

I think if we can win as many OOC games as possible, across the board, then we should be pretty good. Obviously once conference play really takes over, some teams have to lose every week. If FSU, Clemson, UofL, Miami and maybe one more from Coastal, UNC or VT, can win most games and be ranked it will make us one of the strongest conferences. Then the other teams can fairly evenly split the remaining wins and losses, with no one really being a super bottom feeder -- or at most just 1 team. If the other teams all finish around 6-6, to most be bowl eligible, it would be great for the league.

(09-20-2016 10:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 12:25 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  We are literally in uncharted territory in ACC football right now. This conference has NEVER been this good.

The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

Please. I hope you mean "prior to the last few years".

Here was the final AP poll. The ACC had zero top ten teams, and three ranked teams total, and not one ACC team finished above the MAC champion.

Nobody judges a conference by how good the second or third worst team is. The ACC only had two teams in the top 25 going into bowl season.

But it's a good example how strength in the middle has been the ACC's standard and it's been terrible for the football image.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla.)
6. Michigan
7. Georgia
8. Iowa
9. Washington State
10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Florida State
12. Texas
13. Mississippi
14. Kansas State
15. Tennessee
16. Boise State
17. Maryland
18. Purdue
19. Nebraska
20. Minnesota
21. Utah
22. Clemson
23. Bowling Green
24. Florida
25. TCU

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sag...onference/

Code:

1  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  79.91      79.11  (  1)   TEAMS=  9
College Football 2003 thru Sunday, January 4, 2004 - FINAL            the BCS uses the ELO-CHESS from here
HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.45           RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO-CHESS   |  PREDICTOR  
   6  Florida St.          A  =  90.55   10   3   79.43(   2)    1   2  |    4   3  |   88.66   10 |   92.07    4
  10  Maryland             A  =  87.46   10   3   73.24(  43)    0   1  |    3   1  |   85.71   13 |   88.80   10
  17  Clemson              A  =  85.25    9   4   75.33(  23)    1   2  |    3   3  |   85.34   15 |   84.69   15
  26  No. Carolina St.     A  =  82.01    8   5   75.27(  24)    0   2  |    3   3  |   80.25   27 |   83.35   23
  27  Virginia             A  =  81.81    8   5   75.68(  18)    0   2  |    0   4  |   79.72   29 |   83.53   19
  33  Georgia Tech         A  =  79.66    7   6   77.24(   6)    1   2  |    3   4  |   78.18   36 |   80.68   32
  46  Wake Forest          A  =  74.51    5   7   76.30(  12)    0   2  |    2   4  |   72.31   60 |   76.32   43
  75  Duke                 A  =  66.63    4   8   75.20(  26)    0   2  |    0   6  |   66.68   82 |   66.08   81
  93  North Carolina       A  =  64.16    2  10   76.62(  11)    0   2  |    0   5  |   60.40  107 |   67.64   75

My memory is hazy. Corrections:

1) That wasn't the year GT was in the Seattle Bowl. That was Chan Gailey's first year. Bleech. Nevermind GT.
2) IT wasn't Duke that was historically bad it was UNC.

Yeah, I know you said that Sagarin rated the ACC the best. Literally nobody that watches college football cares what Sagarin has to say.

Again, the MAC champ finished higher ranked than any ACC team. Zero top ten teams. That season was another trash season for the ACC, even though it had decent teams throughout the middle.

(09-21-2016 08:20 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 12:25 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:03 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  We are literally in uncharted territory in ACC football right now. This conference has NEVER been this good.

The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

Please. I hope you mean "prior to the last few years".

Here was the final AP poll. The ACC had zero top ten teams, and three ranked teams total, and not one ACC team finished above the MAC champion.

Nobody judges a conference by how good the second or third worst team is. The ACC only had two teams in the top 25 going into bowl season.

But it's a good example how strength in the middle has been the ACC's standard and it's been terrible for the football image.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla.)
6. Michigan
7. Georgia
8. Iowa
9. Washington State
10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Florida State
12. Texas
13. Mississippi
14. Kansas State
15. Tennessee
16. Boise State
17. Maryland
18. Purdue
19. Nebraska
20. Minnesota
21. Utah
22. Clemson
23. Bowling Green
24. Florida
25. TCU

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sag...onference/

Code:

1  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  79.91      79.11  (  1)   TEAMS=  9
College Football 2003 thru Sunday, January 4, 2004 - FINAL            the BCS uses the ELO-CHESS from here
HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.45           RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO-CHESS   |  PREDICTOR  
   6  Florida St.          A  =  90.55   10   3   79.43(   2)    1   2  |    4   3  |   88.66   10 |   92.07    4
  10  Maryland             A  =  87.46   10   3   73.24(  43)    0   1  |    3   1  |   85.71   13 |   88.80   10
  17  Clemson              A  =  85.25    9   4   75.33(  23)    1   2  |    3   3  |   85.34   15 |   84.69   15
  26  No. Carolina St.     A  =  82.01    8   5   75.27(  24)    0   2  |    3   3  |   80.25   27 |   83.35   23
  27  Virginia             A  =  81.81    8   5   75.68(  18)    0   2  |    0   4  |   79.72   29 |   83.53   19
  33  Georgia Tech         A  =  79.66    7   6   77.24(   6)    1   2  |    3   4  |   78.18   36 |   80.68   32
  46  Wake Forest          A  =  74.51    5   7   76.30(  12)    0   2  |    2   4  |   72.31   60 |   76.32   43
  75  Duke                 A  =  66.63    4   8   75.20(  26)    0   2  |    0   6  |   66.68   82 |   66.08   81
  93  North Carolina       A  =  64.16    2  10   76.62(  11)    0   2  |    0   5  |   60.40  107 |   67.64   75

My memory is hazy. Corrections:

1) That wasn't the year GT was in the Seattle Bowl. That was Chan Gailey's first year. Bleech. Nevermind GT.
2) IT wasn't Duke that was historically bad it was UNC.

Yeah, I know you said that Sagarin rated the ACC the best. Literally nobody that watches college football cares what Sagarin has to say.

Again, the MAC champ finished higher ranked than any ACC team. Zero top ten teams. That season was another trash season for the ACC, even though it had decent teams throughout the middle.

"Literally" nobody?? No one from 340m people?

Well, I guess I must be 'nobody'.

Wow! Uninformed hyperbole much?

Sagarin ratings are one of the best predictors and have been for 25 years.

Go and do a statistical correlation and provide the data.

From Andrea Adelson:

Quote:The ACC has four teams in the AP Top 15 for the first time since Oct. 23, 2005

(09-21-2016 08:39 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:20 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 12:25 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 03:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The gold standard for ACC football is (laughably? depressingly? fittingly?) 2003, the last year prior to expansion. The ACC finished #1 in the Sagarin and was clearly the best conference.

Georgia Tech limped to a bowl game in the middle of the pack ... and blasted BCS top 10 Stanford in the Seattle Bowl with an interim coach. The league was top to bottom good. The only bad egg was Duke, which was historically terrible.

Please. I hope you mean "prior to the last few years".

Here was the final AP poll. The ACC had zero top ten teams, and three ranked teams total, and not one ACC team finished above the MAC champion.

Nobody judges a conference by how good the second or third worst team is. The ACC only had two teams in the top 25 going into bowl season.

But it's a good example how strength in the middle has been the ACC's standard and it's been terrible for the football image.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (Fla.)
6. Michigan
7. Georgia
8. Iowa
9. Washington State
10. Miami (Ohio)
11. Florida State
12. Texas
13. Mississippi
14. Kansas State
15. Tennessee
16. Boise State
17. Maryland
18. Purdue
19. Nebraska
20. Minnesota
21. Utah
22. Clemson
23. Bowling Green
24. Florida
25. TCU

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sag...onference/

Code:

1  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  79.91      79.11  (  1)   TEAMS=  9
College Football 2003 thru Sunday, January 4, 2004 - FINAL            the BCS uses the ELO-CHESS from here
HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.45           RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO-CHESS   |  PREDICTOR  
   6  Florida St.          A  =  90.55   10   3   79.43(   2)    1   2  |    4   3  |   88.66   10 |   92.07    4
  10  Maryland             A  =  87.46   10   3   73.24(  43)    0   1  |    3   1  |   85.71   13 |   88.80   10
  17  Clemson              A  =  85.25    9   4   75.33(  23)    1   2  |    3   3  |   85.34   15 |   84.69   15
  26  No. Carolina St.     A  =  82.01    8   5   75.27(  24)    0   2  |    3   3  |   80.25   27 |   83.35   23
  27  Virginia             A  =  81.81    8   5   75.68(  18)    0   2  |    0   4  |   79.72   29 |   83.53   19
  33  Georgia Tech         A  =  79.66    7   6   77.24(   6)    1   2  |    3   4  |   78.18   36 |   80.68   32
  46  Wake Forest          A  =  74.51    5   7   76.30(  12)    0   2  |    2   4  |   72.31   60 |   76.32   43
  75  Duke                 A  =  66.63    4   8   75.20(  26)    0   2  |    0   6  |   66.68   82 |   66.08   81
  93  North Carolina       A  =  64.16    2  10   76.62(  11)    0   2  |    0   5  |   60.40  107 |   67.64   75

My memory is hazy. Corrections:

1) That wasn't the year GT was in the Seattle Bowl. That was Chan Gailey's first year. Bleech. Nevermind GT.
2) IT wasn't Duke that was historically bad it was UNC.

Yeah, I know you said that Sagarin rated the ACC the best. Literally nobody that watches college football cares what Sagarin has to say.

Again, the MAC champ finished higher ranked than any ACC team. Zero top ten teams. That season was another trash season for the ACC, even though it had decent teams throughout the middle.

"Literally" nobody?? No one from 340m people?

Well, I guess I must be 'nobody'.

Wow! Uninformed hyperbole much?

Sagarin ratings are one of the best predictors and have been for 25 years.

Go and do a statistical correlation and provide the data.

Yes, "literally nobody" is hyperbole. So is suggesting that a statistically insignificant difference in an average rating from one of many computer rankings is evidence that the ACC was "clearly the best conference" that year.

Here are the final AP poll top 25 from 1990 to 2011...



Of course, I'm using the current ACC conference membership which is a little off since they didn't all play an ACC schedule, but if you'll forgive that one simplification you'll see that 2000 was a very good year at the top (FSU, Miami and VT all in the top 6) and there was excellent depth in 2001 and 2002.

If you go back a little more, 1990-92 were good years as well. Again, current teams were not all in the ACC at that time.

(09-22-2016 04:06 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final AP poll top 25 from 1990 to 2011...



Of course, I'm using the current ACC conference membership which is a little off since they didn't all play an ACC schedule, but if you'll forgive that one simplification you'll see that 2000 was a very good year at the top (FSU, Miami and VT all in the top 6) and there was excellent depth in 2001 and 2002.

If you go back a little more, 1990-92 were good years as well. Again, current teams were not all in the ACC at that time.

Do you have this info readily available? If so, can you pull it through 2015?

(09-23-2016 12:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 04:06 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final AP poll top 25 from 1990 to 2011...



Of course, I'm using the current ACC conference membership which is a little off since they didn't all play an ACC schedule, but if you'll forgive that one simplification you'll see that 2000 was a very good year at the top (FSU, Miami and VT all in the top 6) and there was excellent depth in 2001 and 2002.

If you go back a little more, 1990-92 were good years as well. Again, current teams were not all in the ACC at that time.

Do you have this info readily available? If so, can you pull it through 2015?

I put Louisville in a different color before officially joining the ACC in 2014
Week 15 (Final 2012)

1 Alabama (13–1) (59)
2 Oregon (12–1)
3 Ohio State (12–0)
4 Notre Dame (12–1)
5 Georgia т (12–2)
6 Texas A&M т (11–2)
7 Stanford (12–2)
8 South Carolina (11–2)
9 Florida (11–2)
10 Florida State (12–2)
11 Clemson (11–2)
12 Kansas State (11–2)
13 Louisville (11–2)
14 LSU (10–3)
15 Oklahoma (10–3)
16 Utah State (11–2)
17 Northwestern (10–3)
18 Boise State (11–2)
19 Texas (9–4)
20 Oregon State (9–4)
21 San Jose State (11–2)
22 Northern Illinois (12–2)
23 Vanderbilt (9–4)
24 Michigan (8–5)
25 Nebraska (10–4)


Week 16 (Final 2013)

1 Florida State (14–0) (60)
2 Auburn (12–2)
3 Michigan State (13–1)
4 South Carolina (11–2)
5 Missouri (12–2)
6 Oklahoma (11–2)
7 Alabama (11–2)
8 Clemson (11–2)
9 Oregon (11–2)
10 UCF (12–1)
11 Stanford (11–3)
12 Ohio State (12–2)
13 Baylor (11–2)
14 LSU (10–3)
15 Louisville (12–1)
16 UCLA (10–3)
17 Oklahoma State (10–3)
18 Texas A&M (9–4)
19 USC (10–4)
20 Notre Dame (9–4)
21 Arizona State (10–4)
22 Wisconsin (9–4)
23 Duke (10–4)
24 Vanderbilt (9–4)
25 Washington (9–4)


Week 16 (Final 2014)

1 Ohio State (14–1) (59)
2 Oregon (13–2)
3 TCU (12–1)
4 Alabama (12–2)
5 Florida State (13–1) т
6 Michigan State (11–2) т
7 Baylor (11–2)
8 Georgia Tech (11–3)
9 Georgia (10–3)
10 UCLA (10–3)
11 Mississippi State (10–3)
12 Arizona State (10–3)
13 Wisconsin (11–3)
14 Missouri (11–3)
15 Clemson (10–3)
16 Boise State (12–2)
17 Ole Miss (9–4)
18 Kansas State (9–4)
19 Arizona (10–4)
20 USC (9–4)
21 Utah (9–4)
22 Auburn (8–5)
23 Marshall (13–1)
24 Louisville (9–4)
25 Memphis (10–3)


Week 15 (Final 2015)

1 Alabama (14–1) (61)
2 Clemson (14–1)
3 Stanford (12–2)
4 Ohio State (12–1)
5 Oklahoma (11–2)
6 Michigan State (12–2)
7 TCU (11–2)
8 Houston (13–1)
9 Iowa (12–2)
10 Ole Miss (10–3)
11 Notre Dame (10–3)
12 Michigan (10–3)
13 Baylor (10–3)
14 Florida State (10–3)
15 North Carolina (11–3)
16 LSU (9–3)
17 Utah (10–3)
18 Navy (11–2)
19 Oregon (9–4)
20 Oklahoma State (10–3)
21 Wisconsin (10–3)
22 Tennessee (9–4)
23 Northwestern (10–3)
24 Western Kentucky (12–2)
25 Florida (10–4)

As you wish...



BTW, still think ACC football is enjoying "unprecedented" success?

P.S. who is this team I see sprinkled throughout this table that starts with the letter "S"? Does the ACC even have a football team that begins with that letter, or is that referring to NC State?

(09-23-2016 02:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  As you wish...



BTW, still think ACC football is enjoying "unprecedented" success?

P.S. who is this team I see sprinkled throughout this table that starts with the letter "S"? Does the ACC even have a football team that begins with that letter, or is that referring to NC State?

1) Thanks for the updated charts! I don't care about all the terrible PMs that I sent trashing your name. I think that you're alright :)
2) An ACC football team that starts with an "S?" Give me about 2-3 years and I'll let you know if that exists.

On a related side note, Mark Coyle is an unmitigated moron.

(09-23-2016 01:47 PM)uldn Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 12:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 04:06 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the final AP poll top 25 from 1990 to 2011...



Of course, I'm using the current ACC conference membership which is a little off since they didn't all play an ACC schedule, but if you'll forgive that one simplification you'll see that 2000 was a very good year at the top (FSU, Miami and VT all in the top 6) and there was excellent depth in 2001 and 2002.

If you go back a little more, 1990-92 were good years as well. Again, current teams were not all in the ACC at that time.

Do you have this info readily available? If so, can you pull it through 2015?

I put Louisville in a different color before officially joining the ACC in 2014
Week 15 (Final 2012)

1 Alabama (13–1) (59)
2 Oregon (12–1)
3 Ohio State (12–0)
4 Notre Dame (12–1)
5 Georgia т (12–2)
6 Texas A&M т (11–2)
7 Stanford (12–2)
8 South Carolina (11–2)
9 Florida (11–2)
10 Florida State (12–2)
11 Clemson (11–2)
12 Kansas State (11–2)
13 Louisville (11–2)
14 LSU (10–3)
15 Oklahoma (10–3)
16 Utah State (11–2)
17 Northwestern (10–3)
18 Boise State (11–2)
19 Texas (9–4)
20 Oregon State (9–4)
21 San Jose State (11–2)
22 Northern Illinois (12–2)
23 Vanderbilt (9–4)
24 Michigan (8–5)
25 Nebraska (10–4)


Week 16 (Final 2013)

1 Florida State (14–0) (60)
2 Auburn (12–2)
3 Michigan State (13–1)
4 South Carolina (11–2)
5 Missouri (12–2)
6 Oklahoma (11–2)
7 Alabama (11–2)
8 Clemson (11–2)
9 Oregon (11–2)
10 UCF (12–1)
11 Stanford (11–3)
12 Ohio State (12–2)
13 Baylor (11–2)
14 LSU (10–3)
15 Louisville (12–1)
16 UCLA (10–3)
17 Oklahoma State (10–3)
18 Texas A&M (9–4)
19 USC (10–4)
20 Notre Dame (9–4)
21 Arizona State (10–4)
22 Wisconsin (9–4)
23 Duke (10–4)
24 Vanderbilt (9–4)
25 Washington (9–4)


Week 16 (Final 2014)

1 Ohio State (14–1) (59)
2 Oregon (13–2)
3 TCU (12–1)
4 Alabama (12–2)
5 Florida State (13–1) т
6 Michigan State (11–2) т
7 Baylor (11–2)
8 Georgia Tech (11–3)
9 Georgia (10–3)
10 UCLA (10–3)
11 Mississippi State (10–3)
12 Arizona State (10–3)
13 Wisconsin (11–3)
14 Missouri (11–3)
15 Clemson (10–3)
16 Boise State (12–2)
17 Ole Miss (9–4)
18 Kansas State (9–4)
19 Arizona (10–4)
20 USC (9–4)
21 Utah (9–4)
22 Auburn (8–5)
23 Marshall (13–1)
24 Louisville (9–4)
25 Memphis (10–3)


Week 15 (Final 2015)

1 Alabama (14–1) (61)
2 Clemson (14–1)
3 Stanford (12–2)
4 Ohio State (12–1)
5 Oklahoma (11–2)
6 Michigan State (12–2)
7 TCU (11–2)
8 Houston (13–1)
9 Iowa (12–2)
10 Ole Miss (10–3)
11 Notre Dame (10–3)
12 Michigan (10–3)
13 Baylor (10–3)
14 Florida State (10–3)
15 North Carolina (11–3)
16 LSU (9–3)
17 Utah (10–3)
18 Navy (11–2)
19 Oregon (9–4)
20 Oklahoma State (10–3)
21 Wisconsin (10–3)
22 Tennessee (9–4)
23 Northwestern (10–3)
24 Western Kentucky (12–2)
25 Florida (10–4)

Thanks!

(09-24-2016 11:07 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  ...Mark Coyle is an unmitigated moron.

Why, what did he do this week?

Well, lets see, the ACC swept their OOC games that have played so far today!

YES, yes it is.

(09-24-2016 02:28 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-24-2016 11:07 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  ...Mark Coyle is an unmitigated moron.

Why, what did he do this week?

I have no idea. He's Minnesota's problem now.

If Louisville gets by Marshall tonight, the P5 looks like this after Week 4:

Conf......vs FBS.....vs P5

B1G....... .788 .... .667
SEC....... .741 .... .500
ACC....... .704 .... .583
PAC....... .640 .... .455
B12....... .545 .... .333

Only the ACC and SEC still have a significant number of OOC games left.