(07-18-2016 09:36 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 07:26 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 06:52 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 01:01 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Well, Tuesday will soon be here, so we shall see.

The date is probably Thursday and it's for real. It's not just a network. It's an updated media agreement. If Luke Decock at the N&O is posting it, it's for real.

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-c...93122.html

The dude and the wvu inbred board just got out on suicide watch. I'd go lurk about if I was the type that slows down to stare at the wreck.

Link?

I think he was predicting what the WV kooks will do once they get wind of this. But I looked at the WV board and they mostly are in denial saying we got taken and that the league is doomed as soon as the GOR expires in 2036. they actually have 2 threads about the ACC Network:

WV board

I wonder why so long for the cable network? This has been discussed for at least 3 years and a lot of the schools have already upgraded the infrastructure. I just hope it's not a way out if in three years cord cutting continues and they decide to not do the cable part. I doubt that's it but just seems like an extremely long time.

(07-18-2016 09:57 PM)uofl05 Wrote:  I wonder why so long for the cable network? This has been discussed for at least 3 years and a lot of the schools have already upgraded the infrastructure. I just hope it's not a way out if in three years cord cutting continues and they decide to not do the cable part. I doubt that's it but just seems like an extremely long time.

2 Reasons:
1) ESPN isn't due to renegotiate with cable companies until then
2) It will save many millions in terms of buying back content from Raycom

(07-18-2016 10:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:57 PM)uofl05 Wrote:  I wonder why so long for the cable network? This has been discussed for at least 3 years and a lot of the schools have already upgraded the infrastructure. I just hope it's not a way out if in three years cord cutting continues and they decide to not do the cable part. I doubt that's it but just seems like an extremely long time.

2 Reasons:
1) ESPN isn't due to renegotiate with cable companies until then
2) It will save many millions in terms of buying back content from Raycom

you're unbelievable ...
ESPN owns all ...
therefore, there's nothing to buy back ...
it's about getting the infrastructure in place ...

HOKIE DOKIE

(07-18-2016 10:12 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 10:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:57 PM)uofl05 Wrote:  I wonder why so long for the cable network? This has been discussed for at least 3 years and a lot of the schools have already upgraded the infrastructure. I just hope it's not a way out if in three years cord cutting continues and they decide to not do the cable part. I doubt that's it but just seems like an extremely long time.

2 Reasons:
1) ESPN isn't due to renegotiate with cable companies until then
2) It will save many millions in terms of buying back content from Raycom

you're unbelievable ...
ESPN owns all ...
therefore, there's nothing to buy back ...
it's about getting the infrastructure in place ...

HOKIE DOKIE

That's what I was thinking...Didn't ESPN get rights to every single game the ACC has in 2009 and then extended in 2011 when Cuse & Pitt were added? If not, what were the FSU fans bi!ching about a few years ago? Is their now a teir 4? Please explain to me ACC fans what a start in 2019 has to do with ESPN "buying back games" they already own?
Cheers!

(07-19-2016 12:06 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  That's what I was thinking...Didn't ESPN get rights to every single game the ACC has in 2009 and then extended in 2011 when Cuse & Pitt were added? If not, what were the FSU fans bi!ching about a few years ago? Is their now a teir 4? Please explain to me ACC fans what a start in 2019 has to do with ESPN "buying back games" they already own?
Cheers!

ESPN sub-licensed Football and Basketball games to Raycom who in turn sub-licensed to Fox Sports. Those rights have been reported to be locked up through 2027 though, so I think the guess about renegotiating an additional channel is probably the major hold up.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journ...C-net.aspx

If we really do extend to 2036, here is hoping we have some performance metrics in place that give us an out if either ESPN fails to produce the network as agreed or revenue falls significantly short of expectations. (arbitration?)

Also wonder if the digital only network satisfies the $45m rumored guarantee to have a network in place by July 1, 2016. And if the digital network will meet or exceed that payment.

Locking in until 2036 makes me nervous (and I am a fan of the FSU / ACC partnership -- just not sure its in the ACC's best interests given the success of the B1G in playing multiple partners off each other and their trend of shortening their deals.)

"When the ACC Network revenues are included, the ACC will be very competitive with the upper tier [Big Ten and SEC] of the Power 5 leagues," a source said.

This is very good news but let's see the details - especially concerning the money. Does this mean 9 conference FB games and 20 BB?

Also, the Big 10 (twice) and SEC are able to renegotiate before the ACC gets another chance? That is definitely worrysome. I hope there is something more than 'lookins' to keep the ACC within striking distance of these two conferences for TV rights when they renegotiate (within 15%?).

Ok, I couldn't resist, so I looked. I kid you not, one poster said that the article didn't say that everyone had signed the GOR extension and said that it wasn't a given. Insert dumb and dumber GIF: so you're telling me there's a chance!

You can't even make this stuff up.

(07-18-2016 09:44 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 09:36 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 07:26 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 06:52 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 01:01 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Well, Tuesday will soon be here, so we shall see.

The date is probably Thursday and it's for real. It's not just a network. It's an updated media agreement. If Luke Decock at the N&O is posting it, it's for real.

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-c...93122.html

The dude and the wvu inbred board just got out on suicide watch. I'd go lurk about if I was the type that slows down to stare at the wreck.

Link?

I think he was predicting what the WV kooks will do once they get wind of this. But I looked at the WV board and they mostly are in denial saying we got taken and that the league is doomed as soon as the GOR expires in 2036. they actually have 2 threads about the ACC Network:

WV board

ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus.

At launch, the digital channel will carry at least 600 Olympic-style events per year, with individual schools producing an undetermined number of the events. When the linear channel launches in '19, it will carry at least 400 events, including 40 football and 150 men’s and women’s basketball games each year.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...N-ACC.aspx

I'm glad we have it for the sake of stability and the money it could potentially bring in. However, there's no way I'm getting on my phone to watch an ACC soccer game or a replay of the 2013 Wake Forest/NC State football game.

That's the type of thing these conference networks typically air and I just don't get it? Why are on earth would anyone watch that stuff in anything approaching meaningful numbers?

(07-19-2016 09:23 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus.

At launch, the digital channel will carry at least 600 Olympic-style events per year, with individual schools producing an undetermined number of the events. When the linear channel launches in '19, it will carry at least 400 events, including 40 football and 150 men’s and women’s basketball games each year.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...N-ACC.aspx

How is ACC Network Plus different from ESPN3's current coverage of ACC non-revenue sports? There are already a lot of ACC baseball, lacrosse, soccer, women's basketball, etc. games on ESPN3. Is ACC Network Plus anything more than rebranding? ESPN3 already broadcasts some ACC football and men's basketball games on ESPN3. Will those games be on ACC Network Plus or will they be excluded from it? Why would they be excluded? Will ACC Network Plus be limited to one event at a time? Right now, there are often several ACC events on ESPN3 at the same time. Will this increase coverage or decrease it?

(07-19-2016 09:34 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I'm glad we have it for the sake of stability and the money it could potentially bring in. However, there's no way I'm getting on my phone to watch an ACC soccer game or a replay of the 2013 Wake Forest/NC State football game.

That's the type of thing these conference networks typically air and I just don't get it? Why are on earth would anyone watch that stuff in anything approaching meaningful numbers?

During the dog days of summer, when there is no other sports that Im interested in watching, I would love to be able to watch some replays of SU's games from past seasons. Hopefully there will be choices of games to choose from.

OK, that makes some sense, I can see that. If your choices are a classic sports win by your favorite team or a rerun of bad sitcoms, cheesy procedural dramas, mid/season MLB, etc., I can definitely see choosing the ACCN.

However, what about the rest of the year?

I just don't understand how these things are such big cash cows for their respective conferences? It doesn't seem to add up.

Like everyone else on the forum like this one, I am a huge college sports fan and even I don't think I would be terribly tempted to look in on that channel very often and there is no way I am dialing up my laptop to watch Olympic sports.

I cannot imagine I'm alone here and we are by definition the most fanatical of the fanatics. What about everyone else?

Who the hell is watching this stuff?

(07-19-2016 09:39 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 09:23 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  ESPN will launch an ACC digital network next month called ACC Network Plus and a 24-hour linear channel in August '19 dubbed ACC Network, according to sources. Modeled on the SEC’s digital offering that ESPN launched two years ago, ACC Network Plus will be fully owned by ESPN and available to authenticated subscribers through WatchESPN and the ESPN app. ACC games that appear on ESPN3 will move to the digital ACC Network Plus.

At launch, the digital channel will carry at least 600 Olympic-style events per year, with individual schools producing an undetermined number of the events. When the linear channel launches in '19, it will carry at least 400 events, including 40 football and 150 men’s and women’s basketball games each year.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...N-ACC.aspx

How is ACC Network Plus different from ESPN3's current coverage of ACC non-revenue sports? There are already a lot of ACC baseball, lacrosse, soccer, women's basketball, etc. games on ESPN3. Is ACC Network Plus anything more than rebranding? ESPN3 already broadcasts some ACC football and men's basketball games on ESPN3. Will those games be on ACC Network Plus or will they be excluded from it? Why would they be excluded? Will ACC Network Plus be limited to one event at a time? Right now, there are often several ACC events on ESPN3 at the same time. Will this increase coverage or decrease it?

I'm guessing, so no guarantees here...

1. If it's like the SECN, those games which have been carried live on ESPN3 will now require a paid account to watch them live on the ACC Network Plus. That translates into instant revenue (though not sure how much).

2. Not sure that the games would be one at a time, but I would expect them to spread out the ACCN games better than the free ESPN3 games have been. After all, you want people to use their subscriptions.

3. Since they stated an ESPN subscription would be sufficient, it seems like those of us with Sling TV should be able to access ACC Network Plus...?

4. Re: coverage, the ACC definitely needs ACC-centric coverage; whether that happens immediately or it comes in 2019 is tbd. Hopefully that happens right away. I could see them saving money by using the existing ACC Network programming (e.g. ACC Gridiron Live!, ACC Blitz, Football Saturdays, etc.) and simply making all of that available on the new digital network... again, tbd.

(07-19-2016 09:50 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  OK, that makes some sense, I can see that. If your choices are a classic sports win by your favorite team or a rerun of bad sitcoms, cheesy procedural dramas, mid/season MLB, etc., I can definitely see choosing the ACCN.

However, what about the rest of the year?

I just don't understand how these things are such big cash cows for their respective conferences? It doesn't seem to add up.

Like everyone else on the forum like this one, I am a huge college sports fan and even I don't think I would be terribly tempted to look in on that channel very often and there is no way I am dialing up my laptop to watch Olympic sports.

I cannot imagine I'm alone here and we are by definition the most fanatical of the fanatics. What about everyone else?

Who the hell is watching this stuff?

Not me. I wouldn't even watch classic ND games (I know how they turned out) or coaches shows (I tire of all the talk, just let me watch the games) let alone those of another school.

So on the ACC Network Plus we will have to pay an additional subscription or will our current subscription (Dish, Direct, Cable, etc) count?

(07-19-2016 10:35 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  So on the ACC Network Plus we will have to pay an additional subscription or will our current subscription (Dish, Direct, Cable, etc) count?

My greatest fear is that it will increase my cable bill, even though I would likely never watch it. But if it doesn't cost me extra, then nothing will have changed for me. I can't possibly watch all the ACC games already on ESPN, ESPN2 and Raycom. Why would I want to watch more?

(07-19-2016 10:35 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  So on the ACC Network Plus we will have to pay an additional subscription or will our current subscription (Dish, Direct, Cable, etc) count?

Sounds like your existing ESPN subscription is OK for now.

Do you think that it was an accident that this was reported during the Big 12 media days?

(07-19-2016 09:50 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  OK, that makes some sense, I can see that. If your choices are a classic sports win by your favorite team or a rerun of bad sitcoms, cheesy procedural dramas, mid/season MLB, etc., I can definitely see choosing the ACCN.

However, what about the rest of the year?

I just don't understand how these things are such big cash cows for their respective conferences? It doesn't seem to add up.

Like everyone else on the forum like this one, I am a huge college sports fan and even I don't think I would be terribly tempted to look in on that channel very often and there is no way I am dialing up my laptop to watch Olympic sports.

I cannot imagine I'm alone here and we are by definition the most fanatical of the fanatics. What about everyone else?

Who the hell is watching this stuff?

True, I ain't pulling out my laptop unless it is a Pitt football or hoops game. I'm not watching an ACC Network unless I'm flipping through my cable box.