(06-10-2016 01:05 PM)07owl Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 12:51 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  ... and didn't take long for Keith Law to jump in on Twitter.

The Twins just called up J.T. Chargois. Timing wise, it's pretty good

About time...he was almost perfect at Rochester. Good times for him and Tyler.

http://www.startribune.com/twins-put-may...382502751/

Jamerson Fisher of SE Louisiana was drafted in the 4th round. Not a lot of Texans picked thus far. A UT signee from Round Rock was drafted in the 3rd round.

Signee Sean Reynolds drafted in the 4th.

(06-10-2016 01:27 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  Signee Sean Reynolds drafted in the 4th.

Hmm, hopefully we can get him on campus! I wonder if he was drafted because of his infield or pitching skills.

(06-10-2016 12:00 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  Word is that Astro first round pick out of high school in San Antonio threw 123 pitches in a game in the state tournament, getting some attention. Roy Oswalt tweeted "so sick of hearing about pitch count with #whomagicallycameupwith100pitchcountsaguythatneverplayed". I agree. Lots of guys making decisions in pro baseball have no background in kinesiology or physiology, yet become experts. I saw the pitcher for SLU prior to the restart of the first game do long toss for at least 20 minutes before going to the mound for warmups. I don't know how many balls he threw warming up before the game, and we go crazy every time someone gets much over 100 pitches. We also go crazy over how much rest someone gets games.

I will state here that I know nothing about kinesiology, so maybe my opinion is as good as everyone else's. However, I suggest in your spare time you google Trevor Bauer and his training methods. He throws a ton, often with weighted balls, and throws year round. He has studied the pitching motion and works with others who have. I saw an article that said that Ken Knutson (pitching coach at Arizona State) had implemented a similar training program at ASU. The results were no surgeries over 8 years and only 80 days of injury time in that span. I am not saying this is the answer, but I am saying to not be brainwashed into believing that pitch counts and rest provide all of the answers, and that if you don't follow them you are ruining kids' arms.

Also, check out this link:

http://www.drivelinebaseball.com

Is Trevor Bauer really the best example? Not exactly a ton of big league success. Putting that aside, my standard tends to be: would any professional team use a pitcher of that age in that way? If no professional organization would use a pitcher of that age in that way, then there should be at least some moderate concern. Sometimes it isn't clear cut and sometimes there are extenuating circumstances (collegiate post-season being a good example). But look how the Dodgers have used Julio Urias during his development through the minors at a teenager. Lots of smart people in the Dodgers organization.

Regardless ... congrats to Duplantier! But we Rice fans will not cry if Arizona is cheap and you end up back at Rice in the fall!

Draft oddity for me -- the 3B from my high school went in the first round, as did the 3B from the high school I would have gone to, except it opened when I was already a sophomore at Rice.

(06-10-2016 02:19 PM)mrbig Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 12:00 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  Word is that Astro first round pick out of high school in San Antonio threw 123 pitches in a game in the state tournament, getting some attention. Roy Oswalt tweeted "so sick of hearing about pitch count with #whomagicallycameupwith100pitchcountsaguythatneverplayed". I agree. Lots of guys making decisions in pro baseball have no background in kinesiology or physiology, yet become experts. I saw the pitcher for SLU prior to the restart of the first game do long toss for at least 20 minutes before going to the mound for warmups. I don't know how many balls he threw warming up before the game, and we go crazy every time someone gets much over 100 pitches. We also go crazy over how much rest someone gets games.

I will state here that I know nothing about kinesiology, so maybe my opinion is as good as everyone else's. However, I suggest in your spare time you google Trevor Bauer and his training methods. He throws a ton, often with weighted balls, and throws year round. He has studied the pitching motion and works with others who have. I saw an article that said that Ken Knutson (pitching coach at Arizona State) had implemented a similar training program at ASU. The results were no surgeries over 8 years and only 80 days of injury time in that span. I am not saying this is the answer, but I am saying to not be brainwashed into believing that pitch counts and rest provide all of the answers, and that if you don't follow them you are ruining kids' arms.

Also, check out this link:

http://www.drivelinebaseball.com

Is Trevor Bauer really the best example? Not exactly a ton of big league success. Putting that aside, my standard tends to be: would any professional team use a pitcher of that age in that way? If no professional organization would use a pitcher of that age in that way, then there should be at least some moderate concern. Sometimes it isn't clear cut and sometimes there are extenuating circumstances (collegiate post-season being a good example). But look how the Dodgers have used Julio Urias during his development through the minors at a teenager. Lots of smart people in the Dodgers organization.

Regardless ... congrats to Duplantier! But we Rice fans will not cry if Arizona is cheap and you end up back at Rice in the fall!

I did not bring up Trevor Bauer based on success in MLB. There are several reasons why some guys are successful and some not in MLB. Bauer has had problems with command. I brought him up as someone who is going against the grain on how to prevent arm injuries by doing more instead of less and who is working with someone who is actually studying the mechanics of throwing. Bauer believes he throws substantially harder with his training methods.

Also, since you mention the Dodgers, they hired Dr. James Buffi in June of last year. He might be inclined to follow some of Kyle Boddy's methods from Driveline Baseball. In the article linked below, he concurs about baseball science being far behind technology and the lack of research.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/excerpt--in...4-mlb.html

Man it's really upsetting reading through Twitter about Jon. Regardless what you feel about his usage, basically every comment is about Rice in a negative light. It sucks that that's our biggest claim to fame right now in baseball.

(06-10-2016 03:11 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  Man it's really upsetting reading through Twitter about Jon. Regardless what you feel about his usage, basically every comment is about Rice in a negative light. It sucks that that's our biggest claim to fame right now in baseball.

How can anyone justifiably argue that Jon was overused at Rice? Seriously. There is absolutely nothing to base such a claim on. Nada.

(06-10-2016 01:27 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  Signee Sean Reynolds drafted in the 4th.

Ouch. I was hoping to get him here. 4th rounders typically sign, so I don't have high hopes at this point.

(06-10-2016 03:19 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  How can anyone justifiably argue that Jon was overused at Rice? Seriously. There is absolutely nothing to base such a claim on. Nada.

Being used on short rest once in the CUSA tournament is all I can think of. Other than that, he was handled extremely responsibly his whole time at Rice. And that instance was kind of a last resort, as Rice was playing its 5th game in 5 days, with 1 of the previous games going into extra innings and in 3 other games, the pitching staff gave up a combined 34 runs (all to LaTech), meaning everyone had been used at that point.

(06-10-2016 04:34 PM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 01:27 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  Signee Sean Reynolds drafted in the 4th.

Ouch. I was hoping to get him here. 4th rounders typically sign, so I don't have high hopes at this point.

I agree, certainly concerning.

After going undrafted last year, Blake Fox goes in the 10th round to Milwaukee.

UH had two junior pitchers (Lantrip and Hernandez) picked in the 8th round. LSU had a pitcher from Grayson CC picked in the same round and one of their top recruits was an early 1st round pick.

(06-10-2016 04:36 PM)mrbig Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 03:19 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  How can anyone justifiably argue that Jon was overused at Rice? Seriously. There is absolutely nothing to base such a claim on. Nada.

Being used on short rest once in the CUSA tournament is all I can think of. Other than that, he was handled extremely responsibly his whole time at Rice. And that instance was kind of a last resort, as Rice was playing its 5th game in 5 days, with 1 of the previous games going into extra innings and in 3 other games, the pitching staff gave up a combined 34 runs (all to LaTech), meaning everyone had been used at that point.

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger -- excerpts from today's Chronicle:

Hard work to pay off
In Santa Barbara, under Aspegren's direction, Duplantier experimented with different recovery methods after games. He tried different days of the week to long-toss to exercise his arm. He tested out circuits of dumbbell exercises and stretching. He didn't ice his shoulder after starts.
"If you want something bad enough, you'll do what it takes to get it," Duplantier said.
John Manuel, editor of Baseball America, said that playing under longtime Owls coach Wayne Graham likely would hurt Duplantier's draft stock. He said Rice has a history of producing pitchers who develop arm injuries, either in college or during their professional careers.
"Every school has a hickey," Manuel said. "But Rice is one of the most prominent."
Duplantier pitched on short rest in the Conference USA tournament two weekends ago, but he said coaches approached him the day before his second appearance of the tournament to ask if he felt OK to pitch. He wasn't sure at first - he had faced 25 batters in 41⁄3 innings in the Owls' first game of the tourney - but he eventually said yes, throwing 42⁄3 innings in the 3-2 title-game loss to Southern Miss.
"I feel good," Duplantier said. "I want everyone to know I feel good."

Amazing how all these pundits ignore the fact that Jon was UNDRAFTED coming out of high school, and ended up a very high 3rd round pick. I guess it doesn't fit with their narrative, so they just ignore it.

+ 1,000.

Let me repeat that: undrafted, then all the way up to the high 3rd round. Pay attention, recruits !!!!!!!!

...looks like Reynolds is leaning towards signing

http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/201606...by-marlins

Eh, bad decision, but I guess I'm biased.

Only 32% of players pick rounds 3-5 make the MLB. Plus, you have to go play somewhere with guys a lot older who view you as competition, rather than as a friend.

Not to mention he's turning down a great education.

$526,300 is good money, but not crazy money in the big scheme of things.

(06-10-2016 09:05 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Not to mention he's turning down a great education.

No he isn't.