(06-10-2016 09:23 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 09:05 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Not to mention he's turning down a great education.

No he isn't.

I wonder how kindly the admissions office looks on professional athletics experience in a post-HS non-transfer applicant with no athletics eligibility. Not that it would be to his detriment, but does it carry as much sway as a varsity HC offering a spot?

http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playe...?ID=467925

I was doing some research on him earlier, and came across his PG profile. That GPA and SAT would not cut it for Rice as a regular applicant. As far as I know, the baseball team isn't going to use/can't give an athletic exception to someone who is not going to compete for the team.

If they engaged in such a practice (which I am almost 100% sure they don't), it would an insult to more qualified students who have been denied from Rice.

To be clear, a guy like Duplantier returning to complete his education at Rice in a few years is totally allowed and I 100% support that.

(06-10-2016 09:58 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playe...?ID=467925

I was doing some research on him earlier, and came across his PG profile. That GPA and SAT would not cut it for Rice as a regular applicant. As far as I know, the baseball team isn't going to use/can't give an athletic exception to someone who is not going to compete for the team.

If they engaged in such a practice (which I am almost 100% sure they don't), it would an insult to more qualified students who have been denied from Rice.

To be clear, a guy like Duplantier returning to complete his education at Rice in a few years is totally allowed and I 100% support that.

The GPA and SAT is similar to some football players I knew. They told us coaches encouraged them to retake to try and bump it up, but the guys I knew with similar SATs graduated just fine.

(06-10-2016 10:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 09:58 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playe...?ID=467925

I was doing some research on him earlier, and came across his PG profile. That GPA and SAT would not cut it for Rice as a regular applicant. As far as I know, the baseball team isn't going to use/can't give an athletic exception to someone who is not going to compete for the team.

If they engaged in such a practice (which I am almost 100% sure they don't), it would an insult to more qualified students who have been denied from Rice.

To be clear, a guy like Duplantier returning to complete his education at Rice in a few years is totally allowed and I 100% support that.

The GPA and SAT is similar to some football players I knew. They told us coaches encouraged them to retake to try and bump it up, but the guys I knew with similar SATs graduated just fine.

Oh for sure, it's totally acceptable for an athlete. A bunch of football players are a lot lower.

I'm just saying that in my view, if he never wears a Rice uniform, he shouldn't get any kind of exception.

(06-10-2016 10:53 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 10:31 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 09:58 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playe...?ID=467925

I was doing some research on him earlier, and came across his PG profile. That GPA and SAT would not cut it for Rice as a regular applicant. As far as I know, the baseball team isn't going to use/can't give an athletic exception to someone who is not going to compete for the team.

If they engaged in such a practice (which I am almost 100% sure they don't), it would an insult to more qualified students who have been denied from Rice.

To be clear, a guy like Duplantier returning to complete his education at Rice in a few years is totally allowed and I 100% support that.

The GPA and SAT is similar to some football players I knew. They told us coaches encouraged them to retake to try and bump it up, but the guys I knew with similar SATs graduated just fine.

Oh for sure, it's totally acceptable for an athlete. A bunch of football players are a lot lower.

I'm just saying that in my view, if he never wears a Rice uniform, he shouldn't get any kind of exception.

Gotcha - completely agree.

Surprised that Solecitto and Warren haven't been taken yet.

I'm assuming Solecitto does not have any eligibility left, but Charlie has one more year, correct?

(06-11-2016 03:58 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Surprised that Solecitto and Warren haven't been taken yet.

Yeah, I think through 35 rounds the only Rice players and signees taken are still:
Duplantier-3rd
Reynolds-4th
Fox-10th

(06-11-2016 04:06 PM)Swede Owl Wrote:  I'm assuming Solecitto does not have any eligibility left, but Charlie has one more year, correct?

Charlie's dad has been telling everyone that Charlie was not coming back, but after not being drafted, I'm not sure what other options he has. He's a VERY good college player, but given his total lack of extrabase pop, and inability to steal bases, I'm not really surprised he wasn't drafted.

Good news for Rice baseball.

Looks like Reynolds just signed.

So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Reynolds signs 74k overslot for a 600k bonus.

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

(06-12-2016 12:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

I don't disagree that our best players were underclassmen. However we did have a starting catcher, first baseman (who later became our third baseman), second baseman, and two starting outfielders who were draft eligible. And all went undrafted.

(06-12-2016 12:22 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 12:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

I don't disagree that our best players were underclassmen. However we did have a starting catcher, first baseman (who later became our third baseman), second baseman, and two starting outfielders who were draft eligible. And all went undrafted.

Despite that we were 3 innings away from a super regional. Quite amazing -- wouldn't you agree. Must be something in the water fountains at Reckling or maybe Wayne knows what he is doing.

I'm more interested in seeing what Charlie Warren does. It would say a lot if he signs as an undrafted free agent, or transfers to a different school to finish his college career. Hopefully he'll stay at Rice.

Next year, we'll have more kids drafted than this year - Otto, Salinas, Gray, Amador, Myers for sure. And then maybe some newcomers on top of that.

(06-12-2016 12:51 AM)austinowl73 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 12:22 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 12:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

I don't disagree that our best players were underclassmen. However we did have a starting catcher, first baseman (who later became our third baseman), second baseman, and two starting outfielders who were draft eligible. And all went undrafted.

Despite that we were 3 innings away from a super regional. Quite amazing -- wouldn't you agree. Must be something in the water fountains at Reckling or maybe Wayne knows what he is doing.

I think that points pretty clearly to the problem being more the partial scholarship/merit scholarship issue that has been discussed at length on here and less any issue with Wayne. My guess is that we are going to have to address that problem if we expect to be in the hunt for top talent to replace Wayne when he does retire.

(06-12-2016 12:22 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 12:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

I don't disagree that our best players were underclassmen. However we did have a starting catcher, first baseman (who later became our third baseman), second baseman, and two starting outfielders who were draft eligible. And all went undrafted.

Wunderlich was starting only due to injury (first to Gray, then Warren, and finally Myers). As mentioned in another post, Warren is an outstanding college player, but he simply doesn't have a single elite tool to be attractive to pro scouts.

(06-12-2016 12:03 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 11:04 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  So we literally had only three players drafted, including one signee? Wow, that says a lot.

Not really, as we had a relatively young team. The majority of our best players were underclassmen.

(06-06-2016 12:09 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  3. Where was I making excuses for the baseball team?

You just made one. Half of our infield, our starting catcher and two of our starting outfielders (at least including Wunderlich for part of the season). There's a reason why 2 of 3 draft eligible pitchers were drafted and none of our five position players were.

I'm not really sure how you can spin this other than our team has less talent than it used to. We had quite a few draft eligible players that weren't selected and if you say the "young guys" are more talented then why weren't they starting?