(04-29-2016 01:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:28 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 11:30 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Surprise! Cinci at #6!

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I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Cincy was not good last year.

Ya that's why Im surprised they are giving cincy such a high percentage. The writer almost strikes me as someone who is desperate for vindication that cincy is a good team.

I don't know if that's necessarily true. A healthy Kiel should provide better output at quarterback. Two very solid running backs return. The line should be in good shape. While the wide receivers are almost all new, they have some very talented guys. On defense, it should be better. But considering how bad it was last year, better might still suck. I expect a similar team to what we saw last year: an offense that can put 30 up on almost anyone and a defense that could give up 40 to almost anyone. Do I expect them to beat Houston? No. But I see no reason why they shouldn't play them close.

(04-29-2016 01:48 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:28 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 11:30 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Surprise! Cinci at #6!

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I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Cincy was not good last year.

Ya that's why Im surprised they are giving cincy such a high percentage. The writer almost strikes me as someone who is desperate for vindication that cincy is a good team.

I don't know if that's necessarily true. A healthy Kiel should provide better output at quarterback. Two very solid running backs return. The line should be in good shape. While the wide receivers are almost all new, they have some very talented guys. On defense, it should be better. But considering how bad it was last year, better might still suck. I expect a similar team to what we saw last year: an offense that can put 30 up on almost anyone and a defense that could give up 40 to almost anyone. Do I expect them to beat Houston? No. But I see no reason why they shouldn't play them close.

That's a fair opinion.

(04-29-2016 01:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:28 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 11:30 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Surprise! Cinci at #6!

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I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Cincy was not good last year.

Ya that's why Im surprised they are giving cincy such a high percentage. The writer almost strikes me as someone who is desperate for vindication that cincy is a good team.

Or someone who believes that Houston over achieved and Cincy under achieved last year.

(04-29-2016 02:17 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:28 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 11:30 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Surprise! Cinci at #6!

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I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Cincy was not good last year.

Ya that's why Im surprised they are giving cincy such a high percentage. The writer almost strikes me as someone who is desperate for vindication that cincy is a good team.

Or someone who believes that Houston over achieved and Cincy under achieved last year.

Ya but if you call what cicny did last year underachieving then they REALLY underachieved.

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Bill Connelly ranked Florida St 7th to end the season. And Navy 20th. And Louisville 28th.

Houston beat all of them, and our final ranking was 44 in his system.

You can't make this stuff up.

(04-29-2016 02:20 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Bill Connelly ranked Florida St 7th to end the season. And Navy 20th. And Louisville 28th.

Houston beat all of them, and our final ranking was 44 in his system.

You can't make this stuff up.

Just goes to show the bias that "major" sports writers have against Houston.

(04-29-2016 02:23 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:20 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Bill Connelly ranked Florida St 7th to end the season. And Navy 20th. And Louisville 28th.

Houston beat all of them, and our final ranking was 44 in his system.

You can't make this stuff up.

Just goes to show the bias that "major" sports writers have against Houston.

So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Quote:the Bearcats were a mid-October wrecking crew. They beat UConn and UCF by a combined 89-20, suffered one of the least likely losses of the college football season against Houston -- it is almost impossible to outgain an opponent, 8.5 to 4.9, on a per-play basis and lose, but the Bearcats found a way -- and then gunned their way past Tulsa.

BTW, he describes it as "one of the least likely losses in college football all season" not because UC was a better team than Houston, but because the numbers suggested they played significantly better that game. You almost never see teams lose a game with that kind of per-play domination.

Stop feeling attacked. The world isn't out to get houston. [/quote]

(04-29-2016 02:23 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:20 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Bill Connelly ranked Florida St 7th to end the season. And Navy 20th. And Louisville 28th.

Houston beat all of them, and our final ranking was 44 in his system.

You can't make this stuff up.

Just goes to show the bias that "major" sports writers have against Houston.

The bias is against G5 teams generally. The starting assumption is that no matter our on-field accomplishments, we're still a mediocre product.

(04-29-2016 03:16 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:23 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:20 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 01:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I'm surprised they give cincy a 51% chance of beating Houston. Cincy will not be as good next year as last year and Houston will only be better. Then again maybe I am being a bit of a homer.

Bill Connelly ranked Florida St 7th to end the season. And Navy 20th. And Louisville 28th.

Houston beat all of them, and our final ranking was 44 in his system.

You can't make this stuff up.

Just goes to show the bias that "major" sports writers have against Houston.

The bias is against G5 teams generally. The starting assumption is that no matter our on-field accomplishments, we're still a mediocre product.

Exactly!! I just said Houston because I'm a fan but it applies every other mid major in general.

This article becomes a great read if you pretend Bearcats1 wrote it.

(04-29-2016 03:24 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This article becomes a great read if you pretend Bearcats1 wrote it.

What's so bad about the article? I thought it was very fair.

(04-29-2016 03:24 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This article becomes a great read if you pretend Bearcats1 wrote it.

Thats actually who i thought of when i read it.

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

(04-29-2016 03:24 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This article becomes a great read if you pretend Bearcats1 wrote it.

ha

(04-29-2016 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That is because you have problems posting anything remotely coherent.

(04-29-2016 08:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That is because you have problems posting anything remotely coherent.

Oh the irony...

(04-29-2016 08:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That is because you have problems posting anything remotely coherent.

Hey man there is no need for that.

(04-29-2016 08:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 08:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  So his computer system he has been using for years was designed to be biased against Houston? Is this even a serious post?

There are always going to be outliers and Houston happened to be one. He mentioned last year and I'm sure he'll say it in his Houston preview, that his system was probably off on Houston last year.

That said, I think Houston had some good luck combined with being very good last year. Here is part of his UC preview.

Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That is because you have problems posting anything remotely coherent.

Oh the irony...

Irony can be so ironic, huh?

(04-29-2016 09:17 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 08:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 08:45 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 05:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Of course his system isn't biased against Houston per se. However, he relies a lot on recruting rankings for his preseason rank, and we all know how overblown these recruiting rankings are and how biased they can be against G5 schools.

You think he'll admit that his system was "probably" off on Houston? That Houston "may" have been better than 44th last year?

Phew. That's good to know.

PS Houston can either be dismissed as an outlier, or Houston can be used to improve his system. We'll see if he makes any adjustments. Seems to me there might be flaws. After all, it's not like Houston won 13 games by a FG each time. Houston was 5th in the nation in margin of victory. And closed out by beating four Top 25 teams in the last five games.

You brought up the Cincy game. Houston led that game 30-14 with 20 minutes left. Cincy gained nearly half their yardage in the last 20 minutes as UH went prevent. Connelly's per play stats are going to be skewed by that.

PPS Name me another school that finished in the Top 10 who didn't benefit from some luck. The national champion Alabama doesn't even get to the SEC title game without that Arkansas miracle play against Ole Miss. Without the Oregon starting QB and starting Center both getting injured right before halftime, TCU gets blown out in the Alamo Bowl.

The list goes on and on.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That is because you have problems posting anything remotely coherent.

Oh the irony...

Irony can be so ironic, huh?

And you say I'm the one that has problems posting something coherent.