(01-13-2016 07:33 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  It means that Pro football fans in Missouri will be looking for a team. It could lead to better ticket sales for Mizzou as football fans look for a place to spend their dollars. If I was Mizzou. I would play one or two games a year in St. Louis.

They will go thr Chiefs or Broncos.

(01-13-2016 11:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:33 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Chargers move will be more impactful. SDSU will be the only game in town.

Has there ever been a situation where an NFL team leaving has impacted on college athletics? I don't think so. I doubt it will matter here.

I think you could almost say USC- but in a delayed reaction. It was a few years before USC took advantage of it- but when they did, they really did.

Will SDSU have a stadium if the chargers leave? Q might get demolished if chargers leave

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...inglewood/

The Grizzlies were supposed to move to St. Louis around 2000 but the NBA blocked the move and the Grizzlies moved to Memphis instead.

(01-13-2016 07:37 AM)goofus Wrote:  It will be the beginning of the Rose Bowl being relegated to 2nd tier status in the future. At the very least, I can see the CFP semi-final games moving to the new Rams stadium.

All they would have to do is create a secondary bowl to accompany the Rose Bowl like the Orlando, Phoenix and Tampa chambers of commerce do. Call it the Tournament of Roses Bowl/Game and hold it on New Years regardless of the CFP.

They actually should have done this a long time ago so their feathers wouldn't get ruffled.

(01-13-2016 09:37 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  It's a win for Mizzou. Now that Muzzou is in the SEC they have an opportunity to be like fellow SEC schools Bama, Auburn, Arky, Ole Miss, SC, Miss St: No NFL in your state is a great thing for your College football flagship. No denying that. Cheers!

So Kansas City, Kansas is gonna annex KCMO? Otherwise, the Chiefs still play there.

(01-13-2016 11:43 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Will SDSU have a stadium if the chargers leave? Q might get demolished if chargers leave

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...inglewood/

They will have to build on but if the plan that a few CA state politicians goes through, the Q will be demolish after the new 35K or so stadium is built and the rest of the land will be developed for other SDSU academic and students buildings. SDSU needs more room for the enrollment they have.

(01-13-2016 09:32 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 07:57 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 07:37 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 07:32 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 03:33 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  If not for the Tournament of Roses connection to Pasadena and the tradition, it'd be fair to wonder if the Rose Bowl itself would move there.

Yeah, that was my first thought but I am pretty sure they aren't ready to throw all of their tradition out the door just yet.

It will be the beginning of the Rose Bowl being relegated to 2nd tier status in the future. At the very least, I can see the CFP semi-final games moving to the new Rams stadium.

Not if the Rose Bowl has anything to say about it and until the current contract runs out, they do.

Agree. I did not mean to imply it would happen right away, the new stadium won't be ready until 2019 afterall.

But once this current contract is over, I believe the Rose Bowl will no longer be a part of the CFP semi-finals.

Well I'm not sure if I believe it at this point (still a long ways to go), but I'm hopeful that in CFP II the semi's will be disconnected from bowl games entirely (like the title game).

(01-13-2016 10:26 AM)lew240z Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 09:31 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Nothing happens to affect college FB. The SL Rams facility is a dump compared to other NFL venues today. Why make it a bowl destination is beyond ludicrous. Most likely the city repurposes the land for higher value usage. Virtually all stadium deals are terrible deals for cities. Even if the stadium gets extra games, all it will do is sit dormant the remaining 99 percent of the time.

The Edward Jones dome is already a multi-purpose facility. The actual name of the dome is America's Center Exhibition Hall Number Six. The convention center will actually make more money with the Rams gone. Many large conventions and exhibitions could not come to St. Louis because of the Rams use of the dome. These events bring a lot of money into St. Louis while the Rams didn't. I wouldn't call the dome a dump. It is and always was intended to fulfill many functions. That means it can't be a great football stadium.

For a NFL football stadium, it was a dump - was there watching the Cardinals play, and the concourses, food areas, etc are cramped, limited and not NFL-level.

(01-13-2016 12:45 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 12:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 12:17 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  For St. Louis probably not much. That new stadium in Los Angeles I'm sure will be on the College Football National Championship Game radar, potential for a bowl game, PAC-12 Championship Game, etc.

More than that, it will become home to a Bowl Game of it's own. Perhaps one that moves up to that tier when the CFP expands.

That is going to be one hell of a stadium.

I'd be happy to see a Pac-SEC bowl game there

It should be the Holiday Bowl that moves there. It has long history of association with B1G, PAC and XII.

Nice try though on trying to get an SEC out west. Those teams should stay back East and down South. Texas at the furthest West. Thank you very much!


B1G can swap Citrus and Holiday bowl slots, sending #2 to the Holiday. PAC can put Holiday ahead of Alamo and send their #2.

It'll be like the Rose Bowl appetizer.

(01-13-2016 11:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:33 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Chargers move will be more impactful. SDSU will be the only game in town.

Has there ever been a situation where an NFL team leaving has impacted on college athletics? I don't think so. I doubt it will matter here.

I think you could almost say USC- but in a delayed reaction. It was a few years before USC took advantage of it- but when they did, they really did.

I don't think they took advantage of the Rams and Raiders leaving. USC had powerhouse teams and dynasties in prior decades, when the Rams were in town.

(01-13-2016 11:22 AM)goofus Wrote:  Yes, unless Mizzou actually starts playing in St Louis, I can see NFL fans just scattering for alternative options. Most will just sit at home and watch on TV. Some will make weekend road trips to KC or Chicago. Especially if the Rams are playing there. Some will become MLS fans. Plenty of other options.

The Rams? What about the Cardinals? I bet St. Louis still has plenty of Arizona Cardinals fans.

(01-13-2016 11:43 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Will SDSU have a stadium if the chargers leave? Q might get demolished if chargers leave

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...inglewood/

Probably not. Maybe they can team up with the Padres and play at PetCo (are they still calling it that? I never keep up). If not, they can slap something together like UCF did after their feud with the Citrus Bowl.

The Rose Bowl will be part of the semi-finals as long as the powers that be support the inclusion of the bowls in the system. The Rose Bowl will probably never again host a championship, but as long as the Big Ten, PAC-12 care about keeping the bowl strong, it almost has to be part of the semi-finals.

(01-13-2016 12:28 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  The Rose Bowl will be part of the semi-finals as long as the powers that be support the inclusion of the bowls in the system. The Rose Bowl will probably never again host a championship, but as long as the Big Ten, PAC-12 care about keeping the bowl strong, it almost has to be part of the semi-finals.

The Rose Bowl is strong because it's the Rose Bowl. Even when TCU played in it, for crying out loud.

It doesn't need to be attached to the CFP bracket to remain strong.

(01-13-2016 12:08 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  It means that H1 gets to add another victory to his considerable list of victories.

This isn't a jab, but would you trade your victories for a Rose Bowl win or a national championship?

As recently as 20 years ago, yes. Now days, probably not. But it was the bowl kids grew up hoping to play in.

(01-13-2016 12:48 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  As recently as 20 years ago, yes. Now days, probably not. But it was the bowl kids grew up hoping to play in.

Today, that's the Super Bowl.

(01-13-2016 12:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:42 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:33 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Chargers move will be more impactful. SDSU will be the only game in town.

Has there ever been a situation where an NFL team leaving has impacted on college athletics? I don't think so. I doubt it will matter here.

I think you could almost say USC- but in a delayed reaction. It was a few years before USC took advantage of it- but when they did, they really did.

I don't think they took advantage of the Rams and Raiders leaving. USC had powerhouse teams and dynasties in prior decades, when the Rams were in town.

Areally you kidding? Matt Lienert and Reggie Bush were like Rock Stars when they were at USC. As big as and as well known in LA as any NFL star at the time.

(01-13-2016 12:39 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 12:28 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  The Rose Bowl will be part of the semi-finals as long as the powers that be support the inclusion of the bowls in the system. The Rose Bowl will probably never again host a championship, but as long as the Big Ten, PAC-12 care about keeping the bowl strong, it almost has to be part of the semi-finals.

The Rose Bowl is strong because it's the Rose Bowl. Even when TCU played in it, for crying out loud.

It doesn't need to be attached to the CFP bracket to remain strong.

I am talking long term. The Rose Bowl is very special no doubt, but it is not what it used to be even now.

If you completely remove it from the national title picture, I think that will further erode it some. I think that is precisely why the Big Ten was fighting for the bowls to be the semi-finals while others (can't remember for sure, thinking SEC) wanted a separate event. If the Rose Bowl is never a part of national title picture, it takes away a little of the grander from it. Right now loosing it as Big Ten vs. PAC-12 every 3 years sucks, but hopefully there will usually be one or both conferences in it, and having it start in its traditional time slot with national title considerations on the line every few years, keeps it very national.

At 4 teams it would still be OK outside the playoff (hurt I'd argue, but OK), but if you ever got to 8 teams and were talking about 2 Big Ten teams playing in a playoff regularly instead of the Rose Bowl then I think you are at a point you see it very rapidly decline in importance.

the TV ratings show that Bison is wrong...
Rose Bowl-
SF in '15 14.8 rating 28.16 million viewers
RB in '16 7.4 rating 13.55 million viewers
Sugar Bowl-
SF in '15 15.2 rating, 28.27 million viewers
SB in '16 5.1 rating 8.94 million viewers

you can say that the newness helped out a bit- but we are talking DOUBLE here for the Rose Bowl.

Ridiculous thread is ridiculous.

Because these threads have been getting moved, he just needed to phrase it in a way that it tied to this board and avoid it getting moved, which it probably will anyways.