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(01-14-2016 07:19 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 07:15 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 06:14 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 06:11 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 05:31 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  Seen this on message boards in the past, over excited parent so presuming he is what he's saying, all it's ever done is make their kid the butt of message board jokes. Most would just presume it's the kid himself or some wanna-be buddy/agent trying to impress the kid (does "Manny" ring a bell?).

So poor decision making in the best of circumstances and if it is "Dad," does the kid even know this is being done?

As I was pointing out to "dad" that it's not up for us to decide if the son is Rocket material. And if dad is real or his son is "for real", we as UT Athletic Boosters are not allowed to communicate with either of them anyway.

I don't know about you but I'm not a "UT Athletic Booster."

under NCAA rules...... no matter what YOU claim... they would consider you a UT Athletic Booster. Remember the NCAA is about penalizing schools not promoting.

I had to see more than something on a message board to convince me of that. Think of the implications? We couldn't talk to just about anyone in town and we're just some people on a message board.

I'm pretty sure, I'm hoping you've got that really wrong. And if correct, how would they look upon a player/player's Dad trying to contact said "booster," which is exactly what you're saying is occurring here. Actually, nearly everywhere since that ID shows up on boards other than csnbbs.

I wish that I am wrong. The NCAA thinks they have more power than the U.S Justice System in making rulings........
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I haven't read what I've linked to closely enough to know who's right, but I generally stay out of discussions about recruits. Mostly because I haven't seen the player play and even if I had, I'm not knowledgable enough to comment on the person's talent level and how he or she would compete in the MAC.

From the UT site -

http://www.utrockets.com/sports/2015/3/1...aspx?id=60
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Can someone please tell me? Does eastisbest ever have positive thoughts? Sorry not trying sound disrespectful. It's actually funny.
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(01-14-2016 07:48 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Can someone please tell me? Does eastisbest ever have positive thoughts? Sorry not trying sound disrespectful. It's actually funny.

They're all positive. 03-wink I'm not here to promote anything if that's the concern.

I'm just not into circle jerks. They're not particularly interesting conversation to me and they usually go with one guy saying something meant to be followed then the "oh yeahs" chiming in. They don't lead to either insight or positive movement. They lead to stagnation. Some people (most fans) see anything other than glowing commentary as "negative." I see them mostly as observations and opinions and I don't change my opinion based upon how many are against it. I change it based upon facts brought to the conversation. Circle jerks don't tend to illicit facts.

Are there experts here we should all be cow towing to?

Now, how many positives are you getting out of OP's approach to getting his kid recruited?
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(01-14-2016 07:48 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Can someone please tell me? Does eastisbest ever have positive thoughts? Sorry not trying sound disrespectful. It's actually funny.

I'll leave my comments about EIB to myself. Like momma always said, it you don't have anything nice to say...
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(01-14-2016 09:09 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  I'll leave my comments about EIB to myself. Like momma always said, it you don't have anything nice to say...

LOVED her in Baywatch!



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(01-14-2016 10:24 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 09:09 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  I'll leave my comments about EIB to myself. Like momma always said, it you don't have anything nice to say...

LOVED her in Baywatch!




Ah, yes, your one "insult" that you have.
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(01-14-2016 11:08 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 10:24 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 09:09 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  I'll leave my comments about EIB to myself. Like momma always said, it you don't have anything nice to say...

LOVED her in Baywatch!




Ah, yes, your one "insult" that you have.

You want me to come up with new ones? 01-wingedeagle Unclench man. Constipation kills. Or don't. You don't take a shot, no one shoots back. Eezy-peazy.
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(01-14-2016 11:12 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
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(01-14-2016 10:24 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  [quote='MidnightBlueGold' pid='12896679' dateline='1452823798']

I'll leave my comments about EIB to myself. Like momma always said, it you don't have anything nice to say...

LOVED her in Baywatch!

Ah, yes, your one "insult" that you have.

You want me to come up with new ones? 01-wingedeagle Unclench man. Constipation kills. Or don't. You don't take a shot, no one shoots back. Eezy-peazy.

You can't come up with new ones because you don't know me. All you know about me is I'm a UT fan and went to a private school. And since you obviously have something against people who went to a private school, you just assume that everyone who did grew up with a "silver spoon". Must be that east side education coming through.

And obviously I'm not the only one who thinks "eastisbest" is an oxymoron.
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(01-15-2016 10:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Hey, could all who went to "private school" please identify themselves so I can tell you how much I have against you? lol

Care for me to list out the board members on here that I know received their education on the Eastside? How about listing a few of your UT Professors? lol. Oh, and which Eastiside school did I go to? Logic much?

Maybe it's not the school you went to that I (or anyone else) have "something against." 03-wink Maybe it's your behavior? Yes, that's it. Check the age on your driver's license and try and figure how people of that age act. You might better understand the reference has nothing to do with what schools you went to. You might find yourself a bit more functional.

I went to a private public school, but receive my Eastside education at "Frankie's".
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(01-15-2016 07:44 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  You can't come up with new ones because you don't know me. All you know about me is I'm a UT fan and went to a private school. And since you obviously have something against people who went to a private school, you just assume that everyone who did grew up with a "silver spoon". Must be that east side education coming through.

And obviously I'm not the only one who thinks "eastisbest" is an oxymoron.



Hey, could all who went to "private school" please identify themselves so I can tell you how much I have against you? lol

Care for me to list out the board members on here that I know received their education on the Eastside? How about listing a few of your UT Professors? lol. Oh, and which Eastiside school did I go to? Logic much?



For the record, I don't have anything "against" you or "your" school. You're the one that keeps coming at me so I respond. Maybe it's your behavior? Yes, that's it. Check the age on your driver's license and try and figure how people of that age act. You might better understand the reference has nothing to do with what schools you went to. You might find yourself a bit more functional.
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(01-15-2016 10:36 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(01-15-2016 10:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Hey, could all who went to "private school" please identify themselves so I can tell you how much I have against you? lol

Care for me to list out the board members on here that I know received their education on the Eastside? How about listing a few of your UT Professors? lol. Oh, and which Eastiside school did I go to? Logic much?

Maybe it's not the school you went to that I (or anyone else) have "something against." 03-wink Maybe it's your behavior? Yes, that's it. Check the age on your driver's license and try and figure how people of that age act. You might better understand the reference has nothing to do with what schools you went to. You might find yourself a bit more functional.

I went to a private public school, but receive my Eastside education at "Frankie's".

THIS is a well rounded education! Explains why you're able to live in Boca and we live in the winter, lol.
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(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-15-2016 10:36 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(01-15-2016 10:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Hey, could all who went to "private school" please identify themselves so I can tell you how much I have against you? lol

Care for me to list out the board members on here that I know received their education on the Eastside? How about listing a few of your UT Professors? lol. Oh, and which Eastiside school did I go to? Logic much?

Maybe it's not the school you went to that I (or anyone else) have "something against." 03-wink Maybe it's your behavior? Yes, that's it. Check the age on your driver's license and try and figure how people of that age act. You might better understand the reference has nothing to do with what schools you went to. You might find yourself a bit more functional.

I went to a private public school, but receive my Eastside education at "Frankie's".

THIS is a well rounded education! Explains why you're able to live in Boca and we live in the winter, lol.

What I use to pay for heating when I lived on Scottwood pays about half my mortgage.
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(01-14-2016 05:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 02:29 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 07:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  You can google that id and find it all over various message boards. It's a pimp.

No class being shown there.

Pimp my ass, I am his dad. I just watched a very good QB, Sr. at my sons school get very few offers because he was not promoted. My son will have to be good enough, (and he is likely to be) hype cannot get a scholarship but talent alone is not enough these days.

Another thing, don't be such a dick.

PS - Since CBS owns 247Sports, not me, being listed there has to do with perceived potential, not me. So again, don't be such a dick.

You're pimping your kid. It's that simple.

Read the comments. The general consensus seems to be that YOU'RE the one being the "dick." You think coaches are going to want to deal with you?

There are a LOT better ways to get your kid out there. Perhaps the better approach on sports message boards would be to search for those threads discussing the topic or to ask. There are plenty of coaches, former players and the like that could give you advice for a route that doesn't make you appear unseemly.

Pimps get paid, usually more than the ho. I get nothing from this financially, as a matter of fact I am paying for trainers, coaches etc. So basically what I am saying is don't be such a dick and STFU.
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(01-14-2016 05:11 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 02:29 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 07:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  You can google that id and find it all over various message boards. It's a pimp.

No class being shown there.

Pimp my ass, I am his dad. I just watched a very good QB, Sr. at my sons school get very few offers because he was not promoted. My son will have to be good enough, (and he is likely to be) hype cannot get a scholarship but talent alone is not enough these days.

Another thing, don't be such a dick.

PS - Since CBS owns 247Sports, not me, being listed there has to do with perceived potential, not me. So again, don't be such a dick.


Mr. Cisco

No doubt you are very proud of your son (as you should be). Good for you for letting the world know of your son's talents.

However......
We on this board love our Alma Mater (The University of Toledo) and our Rockets. Although we do complain about them too much some times. No rose colored glasses around here. Because this message board is made up of alumni and Rocket sports fans and ticket holders, we are considered "athletic boosters" of The University of Toledo by the overreaching NCAA. As such, we, members of this athletic message board, by NCAA rules, are not allowed to converse or have contact to a prospective recruit, their family members (like you) , or anyone associated with their recruitment (such as his coach). Not our rules....it their rules..... Obviously, we are glad you and your son are interested in "the best kept secret in college football" and are welcome to follow along on this board. However, we as members are not technically allow to respond to your posts or converse with you, and have nothing to do with recruiting. If you would like to post updates on this board that is entirely up to you. After all this is open to the public.....

Here is what you and your son needs to do.
1. Contact and send game film and his vital stats to Coach Candle, the new offensive coordinator, and the recruiting coordinator. (as he gets older send additional film to show his progress)
2. Plan to attend summer football camp at The University of Toledo run by the coaching staff each year starting with this summer so the staff can get an up close view of your son and also they can measure him as a person physically and mentally.
3. Attend one home Saturday night game each year if passible. I suggest the Fresno State game this year in September. (There is nothing cooler than a night game in the Glass Bowl)

Just so you know I graduated from HS in Orlando FL in 1973. I went to 2 of the 3 Tangerine bowls Toledo was in. Toledo was the first college football game I ever attended. The recruited me to play football, I was 6'5" 245. However I declined and played college basketball instead.
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(01-15-2016 12:26 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 05:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 02:29 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 07:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  You can google that id and find it all over various message boards. It's a pimp.

No class being shown there.

Pimp my ass, I am his dad. I just watched a very good QB, Sr. at my sons school get very few offers because he was not promoted. My son will have to be good enough, (and he is likely to be) hype cannot get a scholarship but talent alone is not enough these days.

Another thing, don't be such a dick.

PS - Since CBS owns 247Sports, not me, being listed there has to do with perceived potential, not me. So again, don't be such a dick.

You're pimping your kid. It's that simple.

Read the comments. The general consensus seems to be that YOU'RE the one being the "dick." You think coaches are going to want to deal with you?

There are a LOT better ways to get your kid out there. Perhaps the better approach on sports message boards would be to search for those threads discussing the topic or to ask. There are plenty of coaches, former players and the like that could give you advice for a route that doesn't make you appear unseemly.

Pimps get paid, usually more than the ho. I get nothing from this financially, as a matter of fact I am paying for trainers, coaches etc. So basically what I am saying is don't be such a dick and STFU.

Only stopped by here because this was posted on the UC board too and curious where else, but looking at the bolded words above this has to be the kid not the dad.
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(01-15-2016 12:33 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 05:11 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(01-14-2016 02:29 PM)theciscoshow Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 07:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  You can google that id and find it all over various message boards. It's a pimp.

No class being shown there.

Pimp my ass, I am his dad. I just watched a very good QB, Sr. at my sons school get very few offers because he was not promoted. My son will have to be good enough, (and he is likely to be) hype cannot get a scholarship but talent alone is not enough these days.

Another thing, don't be such a dick.

PS - Since CBS owns 247Sports, not me, being listed there has to do with perceived potential, not me. So again, don't be such a dick.


Mr. Cisco

No doubt you are very proud of your son (as you should be). Good for you for letting the world know of your son's talents.

However......
We on this board love our Alma Mater (The University of Toledo) and our Rockets. Although we do complain about them too much some times. No rose colored glasses around here. Because this message board is made up of alumni and Rocket sports fans and ticket holders, we are considered "athletic boosters" of The University of Toledo by the overreaching NCAA. As such, we, members of this athletic message board, by NCAA rules, are not allowed to converse or have contact to a prospective recruit, their family members (like you) , or anyone associated with their recruitment (such as his coach). Not our rules....it their rules..... Obviously, we are glad you and your son are interested in "the best kept secret in college football" and are welcome to follow along on this board. However, we as members are not technically allow to respond to your posts or converse with you, and have nothing to do with recruiting. If you would like to post updates on this board that is entirely up to you. After all this is open to the public.....

Here is what you and your son needs to do.
1. Contact and send game film and his vital stats to Coach Candle, the new offensive coordinator, and the recruiting coordinator. (as he gets older send additional film to show his progress)
2. Plan to attend summer football camp at The University of Toledo run by the coaching staff each year starting with this summer so the staff can get an up close view of your son and also they can measure him as a person physically and mentally.
3. Attend one home Saturday night game each year if passible. I suggest the Fresno State game this year in September. (There is nothing cooler than a night game in the Glass Bowl)

Just so you know I graduated from HS in Orlando FL in 1973. I went to 2 of the 3 Tangerine bowls Toledo was in. Toledo was the first college football game I ever attended. The recruited me to play football, I was 6'5" 245. However I declined and played college basketball instead.

Otis Birdsong days at Winter Haven.
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Thank you, Terry, for a reasonable response. How about this thread dies now?
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Yes a 4 page thread on a high school prospect that probably won't come here is kind of ridiculous...
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There's nothing wrong with what Mr Cisco did. He knows that coaches and their GA's read their school's message boards. He also knows that the kid and his parents have to actively recruit the DI schools to get noticed. This post wasn't so much for the fans as it was for the hope that a coach, GA, or secretary sees it and it sparks interest from the school.
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