college basketball attendance has been dropping like a rock for the past 5 years nation wide - even the NCAA tournament rounds are soft tickets now. its a lot easier and cheaper to sit at home and watch your team on tv now that every game is available and to be honest - the product on the court is just not that compelling.

College Basketball Attendance

2009: 5,375
2010: 5,245
2011: 5,233
2012: 5,192
2013: 5,129
2014: 5,014

Much of the small loss in attendance is do to these 2 factors:

1)Huge explosion in tv coverage, especially mid major programs, as even teams like UCF, most of their games are now aired compared to very few in the past.

2)Increase in new Div I programs over last 10 years, most that struggle to draw any size crowds that hurts the games overall average.

Plus, for most schools that have built new arenas in recent years, many have smaller capacities but offer much higher revenue thru premium seating, advertising, etc...

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

And we haven't played anyone at home.

(12-12-2015 01:47 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 08:17 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  1) Memphis 11,585
2) UCONN Women 9,550
3) UCONN Men 8,992
4) Cinci 7,277*
5) SMU 6,911
6) Tulsa 4,471
7) UCF 4,460
8) ECU 4,396
9) Temple 4,370
10) USF 3,061
11) Houston 2,156
12) Tulane 1,417
---------------------------
Ave: 5,295

*AAC Cinci stats are incorrect so actual figure from Cinci Athletics noted here (which would also change ave attendance for the conf to 5,509.)

FIFY.

Wow!

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

Not sure how other team's non-conf game attendance compares to their first 5-7 non-conf games last year but at least for UCF, early non-conf attendance is up 18% for the first 5 games this year compared to the first 5 games last year so at least its trending upward.

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

Almost every team sees an uptick in attendance once conf play starts...as those games are usually much more meaningful and/or vs better teams vs most games played during non-conf play.

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

I wish attendance threads would include total number of seats and percentage filled in the first post. ECU would never be higher than 3rd just because we can't seat more than 8000


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(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

No Bull Wrote:Didn't Memphis used to avg 17k... before Pastner?

National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

(12-13-2015 07:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

Do you think football has taken the focus of the Tigers basketball program... or Pastner has lost some of his luster... or maybe just a cyclical thing?

(12-13-2015 07:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:27 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  National Rank

2010 - # 8 Memphis 16,498
2011 - # 8 Memphis 16,768
2012 - #11 Memphis 16,234
2013 - #11 Memphis 16,336
2014 - #10 Memphis 16,121


This will be the first season under Pastner that we won't rank in the top 15 in attendance. Tiger fans have been extremely patient, but are finally choosing other venues for their entertainment dollar.

Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

that and your clown bball coach is bleeding out your program to a slow death so fan interest is following....

4 straight wins and counting...

(12-13-2015 08:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  4 straight wins and counting...

we are talking hoops....I don't think you have won four straight in hoops

(12-13-2015 08:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 08:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  4 straight wins and counting...

we are talking hoops....I don't think you have won four straight in hoops

check again, sunshine...it'll be 5 straight on Tuesday...it all started with knocking off Ohio State in Miami...but what do I know, right? lol

(12-13-2015 08:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 08:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 08:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  4 straight wins and counting...

we are talking hoops....I don't think you have won four straight in hoops

check again, sunshine...it'll be 5 straight on Tuesday...it all started with knocking off Ohio State in Miami...but what do I know, right? lol

my bad

I thought you were saying four straight over UC in hoops....

(12-13-2015 08:10 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 07:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 01:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Memphis still has Mississippi, Cincy, UConn, Temple, Tulsa, SMU, etc coming into FedExForum...I expect attendance to go up a little

I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

Do you think football has taken the focus of the Tigers basketball program... or Pastner has lost some of his luster... or maybe just a cyclical thing?

its all a pastner thing - he totally lost the vast majority of night in night out fans willing to trek downtown for a weeknight cupcake game. I left 99% of last season's games mad and I'm not putting myself through that again - my family has had continuous season tickets since the coliseum opened in 1964. I dropped them this season and if I get in the mood I may cherry pick a game but I'm not investing in the josh pastner experience any more. its enough.

(12-13-2015 09:36 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 08:10 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 07:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

Do you think football has taken the focus of the Tigers basketball program... or Pastner has lost some of his luster... or maybe just a cyclical thing?

its all a pastner thing - he totally lost the vast majority of night in night out fans willing to trek downtown for a weeknight cupcake game. I left 99% of last season's games mad and I'm not putting myself through that again - my family has had continuous season tickets since the coliseum opened in 1964. I dropped them this season and if I get in the mood I may cherry pick a game but I'm not investing in the josh pastner experience any more. its enough.

The Coliseum only held 10,000.

(12-13-2015 09:36 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 08:10 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 07:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:38 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:23 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  I agree, the meat and potatoes of the schedule should give us a noticable bump over the next several months. I'd be shocked if we don't finish at least with a 14k average, which should be good enough for another top 25 national finish.

Not sure about 14K.

I sure don't sense the normal fire among the fans this season, hopefully I'm wrong.

we're starting to see the down side of having a good football program...I'll be happy if we can finish over 12,000.

Do you think football has taken the focus of the Tigers basketball program... or Pastner has lost some of his luster... or maybe just a cyclical thing?

its all a pastner thing - he totally lost the vast majority of night in night out fans willing to trek downtown for a weeknight cupcake game. I left 99% of last season's games mad and I'm not putting myself through that again - my family has had continuous season tickets since the coliseum opened in 1964. I dropped them this season and if I get in the mood I may cherry pick a game but I'm not investing in the josh pastner experience any more. its enough.

Yikes, strong sentiment but can't say that I disagree.

Season tickets are much too expensive for what we've been watching over the last several years.