(11-12-2015 05:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-12-2015 04:59 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: I started going to football games in 2000. I have seen some MAC titles. I have seen some wins over Bowling Green. Lots recently. If you had won at least an adequate division I would dismiss the fact that you lost to Toledo all those times. MAC line between East and West is the ONLY reason BG went to the MAC title game in 2013 or 2014.
Toledo was 3-0 vs the East in 2010,2011,2012, and 2014. In 2013 we were 2-1. This season we are 2-0 so far. That's a combined record of 16-1 against teams you also also own.... Minus the fact you can't own yourselves
You're delusional if you don't think BG's 2013 team could have won regardless of division. We destroyed everyone on our schedule in the MAC other than your "fortunate" last drive victory over us where you needed and got two big plays from Owens on a 3rd and 26 and a 4th and 9 in the closing minutes.
Those scores:
31-14
28-7
45-3
49-0
58-7
24-7
47-27
We also came within one point of winning at Mississippi State that year.
Your crossovers were us and 2-10 EMU. You play in the east so you didn't get 10-3 Ball State, or 6-6 CMU to decide your fate IF you would go to the MAC Championship.
6-2 Buffalo who finished second in the East beat 1-11 WMU, and 2-10 WMU and lost to Toledo.
5-3 OU who finished 3rd in the East only had two crossovers, 2-10 EMU who they defeated, and 6-6 CMU who they lost to.
Honestly, 2013 was a weird year. The West top teams basically missed the East top teams. Both tops beat up the other division's bottom dwellers. Except Toledo.
BG beat OU, UB, NIU. Lost to Toledo.
NIU beat Ball State, Toledo, CMU. Lost to BG
Ball State beat Toledo, CMU. Lost to NIU.
Toledo beat UB, BG, CMU. Lost to NIU, Ball State.
Buffalo beat OU. Lost to Toledo, BG.
CMU beat OU. Lost to Toledo, NIU, Ball State.
OU lost to UB, BG, CMU.