Good game Charlotte, see you during Basketball season

I'm with goherd and mu42.

cusa really messed up with chasing the tv sets last go around. we need football programs, not schools that might be good at football in 15 years. if they end up being good in 10-15 years then we could invite them, but no reason to be with them now.

(10-31-2015 05:59 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 05:53 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 05:11 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 05:07 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 03:47 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  Respect your conference mates. If your not happy, then choose another team. I hope we are stuck with Charlotte till the day college sports die.

Don't be an idiot. We don't want to be stuck with them forever. If you do, then you need higher aspirations.

That being said, we looked like 2014s offense.... then the 2nd half happened.

WOW!!! Just WOW!!! UNCC has access to more deep pocket donors than Marshall does, their facilities are solid and they are pressing UNC for the largest University in North Carolina. For a program that hasn't even completed 3 full season Charlotte is doing just fine. I worry they will pass US in 10 years and be talking about Marshall the way a few Marshall fans are talking about them.

Yeah yeah. I dnt care how much money or students a school has, it won't build football history and make them a good football team. Get real. This fairy tale about potential and tv narkets that teams dont actually own, has ruined cusa, and made it a shade better than the sunbelt

You and MU42 are ignorant and need to appreciate what we have us a conference. You all are on the ignore list.

You may or may not see this, because you are whiny *****, you probably have a ton of participation trophies on your mantle. But the conference we signed up with in 2004 is now called the AAC (7 schools we were with) then we got stuck in the Sun Belt/FCS (8 schools). Not to mention UAB going off the deep end. Don't get me wrong, I would much rather be here than the MAC, but it isn't what we signed up for 10 years ago.

Thanks to the Marshall fans for the kind words. Marshall's OL was getting a solid yard push every time they ran the ball and your WR did a great job getting separation. My 49ers are a little better than what I thought they would be but they still have 2-3 years before they compete with the top level of this conference.

(10-31-2015 06:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm with goherd and mu42.

cusa really messed up with chasing the tv sets last go around. we need football programs, not schools that might be good at football in 15 years. if they end up being good in 10-15 years then we could invite them, but no reason to be with them now.

Once again, look in the mirror.

(10-31-2015 04:28 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 04:17 PM)EdM Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 04:00 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Again, they haven't earned anyone's respect yet. They were gifted a CUSA invite because of the city they are in. I'll respect them when they beat a real D-1 team. Not GA St.

You don't suppose their prior history with the conference had anything to do with it? I'd be shocked if it wasn't a significant point in their favor.

At least one marshall fan gets it.

No we all do. And we've all called him out at least once for being a tool. So either petition the mods to remove him or disassociate him with the rest of us. We can't do anymore about it than we have.

(10-31-2015 06:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm with goherd and mu42.

cusa really messed up with chasing the tv sets last go around. we need football programs, not schools that might be good at football in 15 years. if they end up being good in 10-15 years then we could invite them, but no reason to be with them now.

So under your requirements, UTSA, UNT, FAU, FIU, UNCC, ODU would not be in CUSA, so two of the better Hoops programs would not be in the conference and currently CUSA could not exist since the conference would only have 7 teams.

If football tradition is important I guess you guys want to be back in the MAC? Those schools have lots of tradition, not much fan following, but lots of tradition.

Remember where Marshall finished in CUSA when UCF, ECU, and Memphis were in the east and we played Houston and Tulsa in crossover games? This year we lost to 6 - 3 Ohio who got blown out by 3 - 4 Buffalo and 3 - 3 Western Michigan.

(10-31-2015 06:39 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm with goherd and mu42.

cusa really messed up with chasing the tv sets last go around. we need football programs, not schools that might be good at football in 15 years. if they end up being good in 10-15 years then we could invite them, but no reason to be with them now.

Marshall literally drags the conference down in everything else. Once again, look in the mirror.

Yes, because everything else matters. I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. Basketball matters about 5% and baseball about 1% and I'm rounding up and we are typically below average at both. But the other 94% is football. So congrats on your successful equestrian and rifle teams if you have those.

Conference USA wanted to up their basketball competition in the last round of realignment as well as big markets. While teams lie Charlotte, ODU, and UTSA are small time now, they have the most potential of all of us. Whether they live up to their potential, who knows?

The basketball investment sure has paid off with all the extra bids we got in the NCAA tournament......oh wait, never mind.

(10-31-2015 06:48 PM)MU42 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:39 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I'm with goherd and mu42.

cusa really messed up with chasing the tv sets last go around. we need football programs, not schools that might be good at football in 15 years. if they end up being good in 10-15 years then we could invite them, but no reason to be with them now.

Marshall literally drags the conference down in everything else. Once again, look in the mirror.

Yes, because everything else matters. I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell. Basketball matters about 5% and baseball about 1% and I'm rounding up and we are typically below average at both. But the other 94% is football. So congrats on your successful equestrian and rifle teams if you have those.

UAB got more publicity the tournament last year than any of the bowl games teams in the conference played in combined. There is a reason the NCAA tournament is the biggest sporting event of the year besides the Super Bowl.

Football is the most important but basketball is half a step behind it. Whether you realize that or not, that is on you. We can already tell you're horrible at math.

(10-31-2015 06:51 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Conference USA wanted to up their basketball competition in the last round of realignment as well as big markets. While teams lie Charlotte, ODU, and UTSA are small time now, they have the most potential of all of us. Whether they live up to their potential, who knows?

Yes, and potential is fine with recruiting, but not when gauging success. Can you win for more than one year? That is the question that Marshall, USM, and Rice presidents and ADs should have asked before just allowing BB to invite every program in a major city from Texas to Florida. To me ODU is ok because even though they opened up and while it was at the FCS level they were winning 10-11 games per year. However Charlotte opened up the same way and still hasn't had a winning season. F_U has been bad for 13 out of 15 years give or take a few. UTSA was semi successful and would have been a fringe candidate for me. And North Texas is basically the F_U of the West.

My conference would have been Marshall, ODU, USM, Rice, UTEP, LT, MTSU, WKU, UAB, and probably UL-Lafayette. Then we wait and see which Florida team wants in, See what other Texas team wants in, maybe Georgia Southern is a good candidate in a few years but instead we jumped the gun and added a ton of anchors to the bottom of our conference.

My hope in the near future is that Cincy goes to the Big 12 or ACC and we move in. Will it happen, idk. But with our recent success and 3 straight 10 win seasons and a fourth next year, as well as facility upgrades, we should have a shot.

Quit making things up to try and make yourself feel better. Even the lowest ranking bowls get more views than March Madness games



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/27/sports....html?_r=0

Some of you need to just tell the truth. Geez man, you would think we added UK, Uconn, and syracuse to basketball... we can accept sacrificing football for those basketball programs, but we havent added any real value in basketball, to overcome the terrible football.

Yes those programs MAY, MAY be good in 15 years. You can say that with any program. I am sure people have said that about every cellar dweller program in division 1 at one point. To flys point, invite them then, when they are good rather than when they are terrible and will be good some day.

(10-31-2015 07:09 PM)MU42 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:51 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Conference USA wanted to up their basketball competition in the last round of realignment as well as big markets. While teams lie Charlotte, ODU, and UTSA are small time now, they have the most potential of all of us. Whether they live up to their potential, who knows?

Yes, and potential is fine with recruiting, but not when gauging success. Can you win for more than one year? That is the question that Marshall, USM, and Rice presidents and ADs should have asked before just allowing BB to invite every program in a major city from Texas to Florida. To me ODU is ok because even though they opened up and while it was at the FCS level they were winning 10-11 games per year. However Charlotte opened up the same way and still hasn't had a winning season. F_U has been bad for 13 out of 15 years give or take a few. UTSA was semi successful and would have been a fringe candidate for me. And North Texas is basically the F_U of the West.

My conference would have been Marshall, ODU, USM, Rice, UTEP, LT, MTSU, WKU, UAB, and probably UL-Lafayette. Then we wait and see which Florida team wants in, See what other Texas team wants in, maybe Georgia Southern is a good candidate in a few years but instead we jumped the gun and added a ton of anchors to the bottom of our conference.

My hope in the near future is that Cincy goes to the Big 12 or ACC and we move in. Will it happen, idk. But with our recent success and 3 straight 10 win seasons and a fourth next year, as well as facility upgrades, we should have a shot.

You do realize the AAC does not allow non-qualifiers? I don't know how much difference that would make to Marshall football, but it's a big change.

(10-31-2015 06:42 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 04:28 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 04:17 PM)EdM Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 04:00 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Again, they haven't earned anyone's respect yet. They were gifted a CUSA invite because of the city they are in. I'll respect them when they beat a real D-1 team. Not GA St.

You don't suppose their prior history with the conference had anything to do with it? I'd be shocked if it wasn't a significant point in their favor.

At least one marshall fan gets it.

No we all do. And we've all called him out at least once for being a tool. So either petition the mods to remove him or disassociate him with the rest of us. We can't do anymore about it than we have.

Yep.

(10-31-2015 07:16 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:09 PM)MU42 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:51 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Conference USA wanted to up their basketball competition in the last round of realignment as well as big markets. While teams lie Charlotte, ODU, and UTSA are small time now, they have the most potential of all of us. Whether they live up to their potential, who knows?

Yes, and potential is fine with recruiting, but not when gauging success. Can you win for more than one year? That is the question that Marshall, USM, and Rice presidents and ADs should have asked before just allowing BB to invite every program in a major city from Texas to Florida. To me ODU is ok because even though they opened up and while it was at the FCS level they were winning 10-11 games per year. However Charlotte opened up the same way and still hasn't had a winning season. F_U has been bad for 13 out of 15 years give or take a few. UTSA was semi successful and would have been a fringe candidate for me. And North Texas is basically the F_U of the West.

My conference would have been Marshall, ODU, USM, Rice, UTEP, LT, MTSU, WKU, UAB, and probably UL-Lafayette. Then we wait and see which Florida team wants in, See what other Texas team wants in, maybe Georgia Southern is a good candidate in a few years but instead we jumped the gun and added a ton of anchors to the bottom of our conference.

My hope in the near future is that Cincy goes to the Big 12 or ACC and we move in. Will it happen, idk. But with our recent success and 3 straight 10 win seasons and a fourth next year, as well as facility upgrades, we should have a shot.

You do realize the AAC does not allow non-qualifiers? I don't know how much difference that would make to Marshall football, but it's a big change.

They allow limited #s i think right, like 4 a year? Even the SEC does that. Its not like our program is built on them. Sure we get aome good players like that but its no different than recruiting prep schools etc. I dont care about non qualifiers.

I care when you can go 8-1 and 12-1 and no one even cares. And if you lose 1 game, your season is basically a failure.

(10-31-2015 07:10 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Quit making things up to try and make yourself feel better. Even the lowest ranking bowls get more views than March Madness games



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/27/sports....html?_r=0

The best thing is that you believe that people care about the Camelia Bowl.

(10-31-2015 07:31 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:16 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:09 PM)MU42 Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 06:51 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Conference USA wanted to up their basketball competition in the last round of realignment as well as big markets. While teams lie Charlotte, ODU, and UTSA are small time now, they have the most potential of all of us. Whether they live up to their potential, who knows?

Yes, and potential is fine with recruiting, but not when gauging success. Can you win for more than one year? That is the question that Marshall, USM, and Rice presidents and ADs should have asked before just allowing BB to invite every program in a major city from Texas to Florida. To me ODU is ok because even though they opened up and while it was at the FCS level they were winning 10-11 games per year. However Charlotte opened up the same way and still hasn't had a winning season. F_U has been bad for 13 out of 15 years give or take a few. UTSA was semi successful and would have been a fringe candidate for me. And North Texas is basically the F_U of the West.

My conference would have been Marshall, ODU, USM, Rice, UTEP, LT, MTSU, WKU, UAB, and probably UL-Lafayette. Then we wait and see which Florida team wants in, See what other Texas team wants in, maybe Georgia Southern is a good candidate in a few years but instead we jumped the gun and added a ton of anchors to the bottom of our conference.

My hope in the near future is that Cincy goes to the Big 12 or ACC and we move in. Will it happen, idk. But with our recent success and 3 straight 10 win seasons and a fourth next year, as well as facility upgrades, we should have a shot.

You do realize the AAC does not allow non-qualifiers? I don't know how much difference that would make to Marshall football, but it's a big change.

They allow limited #s i think right, like 4 a year? Even the SEC does that. Its not like our program is built on them. Sure we get aome good players like that but its no different than recruiting prep schools etc. I dont care about non qualifiers.

I care when you can go 8-1 and 12-1 and no one even cares. And if you lose 1 game, your season is basically a failure.

Just a thought here, MAYBE the 12 - 1 part of that statistic not getting any respect had more to do with the 3 MAC teams and one FBS team on the schedule than the CUSA schedule, which BTW didn't even include Charlotte.

(10-31-2015 07:36 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:10 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Quit making things up to try and make yourself feel better. Even the lowest ranking bowls get more views than March Madness games



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/27/sports....html?_r=0

The best thing is that you believe that people care about the Camelia Bowl.

But yet more people tuned into to watch that crap bowl than all but 9 (I think it said) March Madness games.

That shows you how much this country cares about basketball compared to football.

As goherd pointed out, its not like we added some big time basketball programs here. This is still a 1 bid league in basketball, with watered down football.