(11-08-2015 02:29 AM)laser101 Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 09:16 AM)KCat Wrote:  Did you really think this team had a chance at going undefeated or having one loss... When that was being projected pre season,, I didn't see it... I knew the offense should put up points,,, but the defense, with a rookie coordinator, was going to give up a lot of points... All the seniors, from a suspect defense, were gone; so, that meant bunch of under classman were getting thrown out there...
We had (6) freshman playing defense in the last two games..
I think, next year may be a good year,, if we don't do something stupid and change coaches.. For the last three coaches, year three
is when we have had to start over, rebuilding a team and staff.. We finally have the pieces in place to build a team that can win at a high level...

This is normal for the UC fan base,they're spoiled and get mad every time they lose regardless of the circumstances. If we do get a new coach he'll get the same treatment. The same thing with Mick when he was trying to rebuild UC b-ball.

(11-08-2015 07:37 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  If 10 wins, 9 wins and this year is your definition of "3 crappy years of mediocre results", then I guess you only will accept undefeated - which this team has only done once in the past 100 years! You obviously don't remember the 1970s-2000.

I'm not happy losing, but not all the loses are due to poor coaching. The only change I would make is to replace Eddie Gran.

Hate to break it to you guys but the fans weren't the only ones picking the Cats to have a good season this year:

Quote:CINCINNATI CHOSEN AS 2015 AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE FAVORITE MEDIA DAY CENTRAL

NEWPORT, R.I. – The Cincinnati Bearcats have been selected as the favorite to hold the trophy following the inaugural American Athletic Conference Football Championship, which will cap the conference's first season with 12 teams and two divisions.

The Bearcats received 22 of a possible 30 votes to win the league title in the preseason balloting of media representatives. Cincinnati was a near-unanimous selection to win the East Division as the Bearcats earned all but one first-place vote in the divisional poll.

American Media Poll

I don't know anyone that felt UC would go undefeated or only have one loss this year. I had them with two losses - one in conference play and one OOC. I guess my expectations were unrealistic. However, UC isn't even playing .500 ball in conference play right now. Granted, we've played all of the top teams with the exception of Navy - and thank the Lord since that would be a loss as well. Seems to me the Cats have regressed in year 3 instead of becoming better/more consistent/more disciplined. But wait, there is always next year so I'll get geared up for incremental improvement in year 4.

It comes down to your expectations and if you're fine with CTT and this staff, no problem. Have at it. I live in North Carolina so season tickets or attending games at Nippert is not really an option for me. However, road games in my area or Bowl trips is an option but one I won't exercise under this regime.

2015 Current AAC Standings:

#18 Houston 5–0
Navy 5–0
#23 Temple 5–0
#15 Memphis 4–1
South Florida 3–2
Connecticut 3–3
Cincinnati 2 –3
Tulsa 2–3
East Carolina 2–4
Tulane 1–5
SMU 0–5
UCF 0 –6

(11-08-2015 07:37 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 10:03 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 09:16 AM)KCat Wrote:  Did you really think this team had a chance at going undefeated or having one loss... When that was being projected pre season,, I didn't see it... I knew the offense should put up points,,, but the defense, with a rookie coordinator, was going to give up a lot of points... All the seniors, from a suspect defense, were gone; so, that meant bunch of under classman were getting thrown out there...
We had (6) freshman playing defense in the last two games..
I think, next year may be a good year,, if we don't do something stupid and change coaches.. For the last three coaches, year three
is when we have had to start over, rebuilding a team and staff.. We finally have the pieces in place to build a team that can win at a high level...

No offense, but he's had 3 crappy years of mediocre results. Butch Jones teams had to go to crappy bowls too, the difference being that they won. While his teams never really knocked off anyone they weren't supposed to, even in his first year with a bare cupboard, he still stomped the freaking red hawks. The same team we've been barely squeaking by the past couple years. I realize the defense wasn't great, but that's not excuse for poor coaching, stupid penalties and a general lack of awareness the likes of which we've only seen under this regime. They're bad at their jobs. The kids who are succeeding, do so in spite of them, not because of them.

If 10 wins, 9 wins and this year is your definition of "3 crappy years of mediocre results", then I guess you only will accept undefeated - which this team has only done once in the past 100 years! You obviously don't remember the 1970s-2000.

I'm not happy losing, but not all the loses are due to poor coaching. The only change I would make is to replace Eddie Gran.

When was the last time TT won 10 games exactly? Wasn't here. You must have forgotten we got humiliated in the Belk Bowl. And Elder High School could have won 9 games against our schedule his first year here. One of the worst schedules in modern history.

We beat bad teams. We crap the bed against almost every team with a pulse. And some fans think that is fine. Good for them.

(11-07-2015 10:27 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Unless we lose out, our HC short list has one name: Tuberville.

Minus a W over a crappy Tulsa team last week, it very well could happen......

(11-08-2015 07:37 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-07-2015 10:03 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(10-20-2015 09:16 AM)KCat Wrote:  Did you really think this team had a chance at going undefeated or having one loss... When that was being projected pre season,, I didn't see it... I knew the offense should put up points,,, but the defense, with a rookie coordinator, was going to give up a lot of points... All the seniors, from a suspect defense, were gone; so, that meant bunch of under classman were getting thrown out there...
We had (6) freshman playing defense in the last two games..
I think, next year may be a good year,, if we don't do something stupid and change coaches.. For the last three coaches, year three
is when we have had to start over, rebuilding a team and staff.. We finally have the pieces in place to build a team that can win at a high level...

No offense, but he's had 3 crappy years of mediocre results. Butch Jones teams had to go to crappy bowls too, the difference being that they won. While his teams never really knocked off anyone they weren't supposed to, even in his first year with a bare cupboard, he still stomped the freaking red hawks. The same team we've been barely squeaking by the past couple years. I realize the defense wasn't great, but that's not excuse for poor coaching, stupid penalties and a general lack of awareness the likes of which we've only seen under this regime. They're bad at their jobs. The kids who are succeeding, do so in spite of them, not because of them.

If 10 wins, 9 wins and this year is your definition of "3 crappy years of mediocre results", then I guess you only will accept undefeated - which this team has only done once in the past 100 years! You obviously don't remember the 1970s-2000.

I'm not happy losing, but not all the loses are due to poor coaching. The only change I would make is to replace Eddie Gran.

he won 9 games against the worst schedule in the modern era
he has never won 10 games here, you are thinking of the good coaches we had before this loser
our program is in trouble right now with this man at the helm

he needs to do the right thing and step down...the game has passed him by


these losses, all of them ARE ON the coaches. You start at the top. Especially in light of the fact we do not have a talent issue. We are very talented. Any of the previous three coaches with THIS team would be sitting at NO WORSE than 8-2

wake h up and smell the coffee man.....you CTT apologists just look like clueless baffoons now

Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

The last 3 years have been acceptable. UC was picked to win the conference this year. Not only have they failed to do that, they failed miserably.

We do not have the pieces in place.

We need:

A defensive coordinator that does not trot out a timid defense every game - one that is afraid to blitz or play aggressively.

A real special teams coach, not a GA.

UC's offense has been ok - they have even set records, but Gran needs to learn some new plays. I would not get rid of him but he has room for improvement.

If Tuberville stays, and he probably will - he needs to take more ownership of his team. Just being a nice guy and hoping your assistants can get the job done isn't going to cut it. It isn't cutting it. The program regressed this year.

A new strength and conditioning coach.

I'm sure there are more.

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

(11-21-2015 08:57 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

His current salary is 300k

(10-17-2015 12:22 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Moot question... Coach Tuberville isn't going anywhere and we can't afford to buy him out.

What is Tuberville's buyout, and how much less would we have to pay someone like Matt Campbell?

(11-21-2015 09:43 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:57 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

His current salary is 300k

Tubberville has ruined me on any coach over 45.

(11-21-2015 10:51 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:43 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:57 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

His current salary is 300k

Tubberville has ruined me on any coach over 45.

No doubt. "What are your career goals?" should be question number one in any interview. If the answer is not "win and consistantly perform at such a high level that the best programs in the country want to hire me away, and I'll only hire and keep staff that can help me get there", the interview should conclude immediately, thank you very much for your time

(11-21-2015 09:43 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:57 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

His current salary is 300k

I would LOVE that hire. He plays a boring brand of football, but the man can coach and recruit with the best of them. It would definitely send shock waves around the country. (More so than the TT hire did).

(11-21-2015 11:51 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:43 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:57 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:38 AM)Former Lurker Wrote:  Isn't Tressel past his sanctions period?

now that would be an interesting hire....guy has been a winner at every stop. He also has tremendous inroads to Ohio high schools.

hmmmmm

He's also the President of an institution...becoming head coach would be a step down.

His current salary is 300k

I would LOVE that hire. He plays a boring brand of football, but the man can coach and recruit with the best of them. It would definitely send shock waves around the country. (More so than the TT hire did).

Would be big. But something tells me after his first loss we'll be out on the golf courses with pitch forks and torches

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Tressel is too old. This game is about new schemes and offense. This isn't Tressel's era anymore.

I have a feeling that Peyton Manning's going to be looking for work after this season. He's 39 years old and nowhere near retirement, a student of the game with a superb mind, has great name recognition and recruiting appeal, works with intensity and has no patience for mediocrity, and he doesn't need the money.

(11-21-2015 01:38 PM)colohank Wrote:  I have a feeling that Peyton Manning's going to be looking for work after this season. He's 39 years old and nowhere near retirement, a student of the game with a superb mind, has great name recognition and recruiting appeal, works with intensity and has no patience for mediocrity, and he doesn't need the money.

I think he's already used up all his college eligibility

Very few big time NFL players go on to be coaches. It's a lot of work to be a coach and if I had $100M like Peyton, those 60 hour weeks wouldn't look so great.

(11-21-2015 02:42 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Very few big time NFL players go on to be coaches. It's a lot of work to be a coach and if I had $100M like Peyton, those 60 hour weeks wouldn't look so great.

Maybe, but I bet he'd jump if Tennessee were looking for a coach. Cincy would make a great stepping stone, as it always has.

How about Matt Campbell? With all the openings this year, it's probably a bad time to be coach shopping unless you want to give Al Golden another chance.