(09-25-2015 07:17 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 05:38 AM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 03:32 AM)MrP3242 Wrote:  1. Fumble: Knee down my foot. Who the heck was reviewing the play??
2. Targeting: The hit on Keil was targeting: It wasn't cloudy, misty, hazy or vague. It was a direct targeting hit helmet to helmet
3. Terrible officiating.
4. Hayden Moore: Great game for a freshmen. He could have a good future.

Typical crybaby Cincy fans...your team lost get over it.

part of being a winner and supporting a winner is something I'll call grace - maybe you can call it class - from the hog / heart attack waiting to happen in the stands playing air guitar on a megaphone, to "fans" like you, its part of the growth process. I get it that you're all excited about the game - a big win for UM. BUT, as Paul Brown used to say, act like you've been there before. Realize that that game could've gone either way - if the fumble had been upheld, uc probably would've scored last - don't get so f'in cocky.

We've been there before. We were there last year when we whipped you 41-14 in your big brothers' house!

(09-25-2015 03:42 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  I saw that hit. It was in no way targeting. Don't confuse targeting with simply being hit hard. The announcers explained it perfectly, he was neither defenseless nor hit with the crown of the head

Ah, crown of the head is not necessarily for targeting, fist, forearms, shoulder pads to the head and neck area count as targeting as well.

(09-25-2015 10:52 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:11 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:04 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  We need this stadium picture. Hopefully it will appear somewhere today. I wasn't there, and from what I saw on the TV, I wouldn't have overturned the call.

In any case, bad calls are a part of sports. We have been victimized MANY times by bad calls that cost us games. It sucks, but what can you do? You can't control the refs. For so many years we have sucked in football and been ridiculed by so many others, but stayed dedicated to our team. I am pretty happy to be 4-0. Time to focus on USF. Go Tigers!

Agreed, and that was the only point I was making from someone with no care who won or lost this game.

Memphis fan is going to think one way and Cincy another I was just trying to provide an unbiased opinion.

Actually, no.

There was the Cincy fumble that wasn't called earlier in the game. If it's a fumble it's a fumble. Then there was the Memphis fumble. That was worse because it was called THEN overturned despite evidence that it was the correct call. That's quite a bit worse.

It's like a trial. I may disagree with the outcome but I wasn't sitting in the Jury Booth.

We can disagree on the call, but we weren't sitting in the replay booth.

I will say this, though. The replay showed on the jumbotron clearly showed the call would be overturned.

(09-25-2015 06:06 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  4-0 (1-0 AAC)

That's all that needs to be said...

Yeah yeah. Win over Cincy...join the club.

(09-25-2015 11:58 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:51 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:11 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:04 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  We need this stadium picture. Hopefully it will appear somewhere today. I wasn't there, and from what I saw on the TV, I wouldn't have overturned the call.

In any case, bad calls are a part of sports. We have been victimized MANY times by bad calls that cost us games. It sucks, but what can you do? You can't control the refs. For so many years we have sucked in football and been ridiculed by so many others, but stayed dedicated to our team. I am pretty happy to be 4-0. Time to focus on USF. Go Tigers!

Agreed, and that was the only point I was making from someone with no care who won or lost this game.

Memphis fan is going to think one way and Cincy another I was just trying to provide an unbiased opinion.

That is why refs decide...the outcome of the games.

FIFY

Cincy had a chance to tie it. Don't forget the gifts we handed them as well that led to 14 points for them penalty wise. Then another 7 off the fumble Craft had.

We stopped them twice on 3rd downs and had penalties against us. Defensive Holding and The hit on Moore, which was more like a 2 handed touch fall down that resulted in them getting a fresh set of downs.

We got robbed on a fumble call that was MUCH MORE CLEAR. Dude was dropping the ball while he was still up trying to keep running. All we had to do was pick it up off the ground lol. We literally just reached in with 1 hand and held the ball up.

You are clearly backing Cincy in a game that was equally bad for both teams. Both teams made mistakes, both teams had bad calls go against them, both teams missed out on a fumble. It's cool if you want to support them, but if anyone thinks they got screwed over, watch the game again. We got it just as bad as they did.

Its not our fault that we sent 3 and 1 got to Moore and instead of him taking the sack and calling a timeout, or throwing it away he did a little shoulder toss throw backwards that resulted in an interception.

The refs didn't do that either.

So let's just take all the BS away.

So Memphis gets the fumble recovery on the fumble and scores earlier in the game. We're up 7 based off of everything that happened when we had our fumble overturned. Then say Cincy gets the fumble recovery and it leads to a tie. There would be probably 2ish minutes left for us to either score a TD or kick the FG.

Who knows what would happen, but I like those odds for us too.

As bad as it was, it completely balanced out.

Look at the penalties, look the 2 the fumbles in question. The only other turnovers we had were 3 interceptions. Unquestionable and can't deny those.

2 against Moore. The 1 at the end, bad play on him. Then the 1 where Ball trapped the ball against his helmet which resulted in the #1 play in the SC top 10.

Then Kiel threw the Pick 6.

Everything balanced out, but yet everyone is complaining that 1 team got jobbed. Completely untrue.

It's like people don't understand that someone has to lose even in the most exciting, even games.

(09-25-2015 11:18 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  My apologies Memphis fans. I didn't realize there was a super secret mystery camera angle that only Memphis fans and the refs were privy to. Somehow ESPN and it's 7000 cameras didn't have access to the super secret mystery camera angle...which sucks because then everyone would know you are right.

That's good of you for being so understanding. Your parents should be proud.

At the end of the day, the TIGERS won a hard fought game last night.

Indeed, it is human nature to only focus on calls in the final few minutes. As was mentioned earlier, other questionable calls, non-calls, and reversals also impacted the game. Kiel's pick 6 was a benefit for MEMPHIS. The roughing call on MEMPHIS to extend a Bearcat drive benefitted UC. Kiel getting smashed on a legitimate football hit with the shoulder was at first unfortunate for UC but the way Moore played perhaps it was in fact painful for MEMPHS. Craft's fumble on the 2nd play from scrimmage basically gave Cincy a gift touchdown, then he added a muffed kickoff OB on the 2 which was also beneficial for the Bearcats.

It goes in the record books as a 53-46 victory for MEMPHIS.

It's over. Move on.

Maybe your anger should be directed at Tuberville for risking Kiels' personal health.

As I said last night after the game, good luck to Cincinnati in your remaining games.

(09-25-2015 12:39 PM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 11:18 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  My apologies Memphis fans. I didn't realize there was a super secret mystery camera angle that only Memphis fans and the refs were privy to. Somehow ESPN and it's 7000 cameras didn't have access to the super secret mystery camera angle...which sucks because then everyone would know you are right.

That's good of you for being so understanding. Your parents should be proud.

I do what I can. I think Memphis should release the super secret mystery camera angle just to clear things up. They showed it on the jumbotron so all their fans that were there could see, but I think everyone deserves to see the super secret mystery camera angle.

(09-25-2015 12:04 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:52 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:11 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 10:04 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  We need this stadium picture. Hopefully it will appear somewhere today. I wasn't there, and from what I saw on the TV, I wouldn't have overturned the call.

In any case, bad calls are a part of sports. We have been victimized MANY times by bad calls that cost us games. It sucks, but what can you do? You can't control the refs. For so many years we have sucked in football and been ridiculed by so many others, but stayed dedicated to our team. I am pretty happy to be 4-0. Time to focus on USF. Go Tigers!

Agreed, and that was the only point I was making from someone with no care who won or lost this game.

Memphis fan is going to think one way and Cincy another I was just trying to provide an unbiased opinion.

Actually, no.

There was the Cincy fumble that wasn't called earlier in the game. If it's a fumble it's a fumble. Then there was the Memphis fumble. That was worse because it was called THEN overturned despite evidence that it was the correct call. That's quite a bit worse.

It's like a trial. I may disagree with the outcome but I wasn't sitting in the Jury Booth.

We can disagree on the call, but we weren't sitting in the replay booth.

I will say this, though. The replay showed on the jumbotron clearly showed the call would be overturned.

The jumbotron. Oh, that's good.

(09-25-2015 12:54 PM)boss man Wrote:  At the end of the day, the TIGERS won a hard fought game last night.

Indeed, it is human nature to only focus on calls in the final few minutes. As was mentioned earlier, other questionable calls, non-calls, and reversals also impacted the game. Kiel's pick 6 was a benefit for MEMPHIS. The roughing call on MEMPHIS to extend a Bearcat drive benefitted UC. Kiel getting smashed on a legitimate football hit with the shoulder was at first unfortunate for UC but the way Moore played perhaps it was in fact painful for MEMPHS. Craft's fumble on the 2nd play from scrimmage basically gave Cincy a gift touchdown, then he added a muffed kickoff OB on the 2 which was also beneficial for the Bearcats.

It goes in the record books as a 53-46 victory for MEMPHIS.

It's over. Move on.

Maybe your anger should be directed at Tuberville for risking Kiels' personal health.

As I said last night after the game, good luck to Cincinnati in your remaining games.

The roughing call that extended the UC drive was a stupid play by Memphis and a no-brainer penalty. Why would you even bring that up? That wasn't a gift from the ref.

And like I mentioned in another post, Kiel's pick six was at the beginning of the game. Yes, it impacted the outcome, but at least a first quarter mistake is much easier to overcome than a retarded, boneheaded reversal of an obvious fumble that was NOT caught by mysterious, secret cameras that took angles that only Memphis fans could see.

It could live with the decision if the original call was a fumble. But to overturn the call? Truly preposterous.

Believe it or not, I'm all about the right call being made, even if it's against my team. If I truly thought it was a fumble, I'd tell you it's a fumble. There certainly wasn't enough evidence to overturn the original call.

This call has made me like college football a little less. It ruins the game.

Yeah, you won. But it came cheaply.

Some stuck out feelings today. Feels good to be on the other side for a change.

(09-25-2015 10:05 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 09:57 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I guess from now on there needs to be sensors in the ball, players knees, shoes, elbows, etc.

If it is necessary to slow down replays to .0000001 seconds or whatever to verify an official's call then maybe we should just say stick with the original call. Maybe there needs to be a cutoff on how many frames per second can be used to verify a call. It's kind of ridiculous no matter if you are for or against the call.

No maybe what is seen through compression frame rates on espn is not the same as what the refs have on the in house feed.

College much?

College? Is this core curriculum at Memphis?

No wonder they are a tier 2.

(09-25-2015 01:23 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  Some stuck out feelings today. Feels good to be on the other side for a change.

Bwahahaha Bwahahaha Bwahahaha

Whiney babies

Loving it.


Melt continues

All I know is that there is absolutely NO WAY that Memphis will beat UConn on the gridiron this season.

(09-25-2015 01:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  All I know is that there is absolutely NO WAY that Memphis will beat UConn on the gridiron this season.

haven't even played you yet and you are melting

Awesome

(09-25-2015 01:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 01:47 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  All I know is that there is absolutely NO WAY that Memphis will beat UConn on the gridiron this season.

haven't even played you yet and you are melting

Awesome

I read half the thread and then stopped so this may have been pointed out clearly already but...

The right knee hit the ground. The defender yanked up on the ball, pulling the carrier's knee back up off the ground. THAT is when the ESPN replay started as the ball started coming loose, with both knees in the air and the left knee slowly coming down and the ball coming out. The knee had already hit the ground and was on the way back up when the video ESPN showed started. The refs AND the jumbotron showed the full replay from the point of heading towards the ground before the defender snatched the ball and the ball started moving.

As far as the targeting. I wouldn't have blamed the refs if they had called it targeting. I felt it was an unnecessary hit even if it were a legal hit. That wasn't a game-changer IMO though. I think that the penalty would have given a first down, well the very next play was a first down anyway. I also think that the way Kiel was playing that the back-up was better anyway.

(09-25-2015 01:01 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 12:39 PM)Coogin it Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 11:18 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  My apologies Memphis fans. I didn't realize there was a super secret mystery camera angle that only Memphis fans and the refs were privy to. Somehow ESPN and it's 7000 cameras didn't have access to the super secret mystery camera angle...which sucks because then everyone would know you are right.

That's good of you for being so understanding. Your parents should be proud.

I do what I can. I think Memphis should release the super secret mystery camera angle just to clear things up. They showed it on the jumbotron so all their fans that were there could see, but I think everyone deserves to see the super secret mystery camera angle.

I agree. I hope it's released. Because what they played on the jumbotron was clearly a dead ball.

(09-25-2015 10:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  To overturn a call on the field the booth has to have clear evidence that call on the field was incorrect. I have to believe that the booth had a video angle not show during the game that led to the call being overturned. If they based this on the same angles shown on TV?...They blew this call horribly.

I agree with this. Either they saw another angle or I am missing something because the repay on tv it looked like a fumble. One of the two happened. Hopefully the league will clear it up so we can all go on with our lives.