(09-05-2015 01:27 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-05-2015 09:15 AM)penguino Wrote:  Q: If you have a car containing a West Virginia Mountaineers wide receiver, a West Virginia Mountaineers linebacker, and a West Virginia Mountaineers defensive back, who is driving the car?

The Guido that stole it.

Good one - miss playing you guys, even though we never beat you.

But - I guess you don't mean what you say. Thats twice now you said you were done and have come back. Make up your mind already. Here's another one:

Q: What do West Virginia Mountaineers Football players always get on their final exams?
A: Drool.

Let's not kill Rutgers.. I mean they did just 50 points...

Oh, so it was only a TD game at half time at home and they just ran up the score against a team with an RPI of 221 that went 4-8 last year in one of the worst leagues in FCS...

Why can't Rutgers do like BC/UConn/Syracuse and schedule respectable FCS schools. Let's see Rutgers play Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, etc... Rutgers can't even schedule FCS games (like everyone else does) without screwing it up.

(09-06-2015 09:01 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

Let's not kill Rutgers.. I mean they did just 50 points...

Oh, so it was only a TD game at half time at home and they just ran up the score against a team with an RPI of 221 that went 4-8 last year in one of the worst leagues in FCS...

Why can't Rutgers do like BC/UConn/Syracuse and schedule respectable FCS schools. Let's see Rutgers play Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, etc... Rutgers can't even schedule FCS games (like everyone else does) without screwing it up.

We scored 63 (won by 50) - and our starting secondary and linebackers were either in jail, or injured. and 5 starters, including caroo (who caught 3 passes for 3 TDs), didn't play until the second 1/2.

BTW I watched the UCANT game, it was ugly, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, and trust me, Villanova aint no top 5 FCS team after watching that. You guys were lucky to beat them.

And why should we play any differently then anyone else? Have you checked out who the mighty SEC plays? or the PAC 12? Besides, our conference schedule is hard enough, we don't need those kind of games at this point. Besides, after 2017 we won't be able to schedule them anymore because the B!G frowns on it. Maybe we'll be generous and throw UCANT a bone and play you.....but it would have to be 2 for 1, and your home game at METLIFE.

At the Rutgers game yesterday. They looked terrible on Norfolk's opening drive. The receivers were open by ten yards each play and they went right down the field for 7 points. The defensive backfield was a mess. After that drive Rutgers settled in and turned it on in the second half. They won't miss the players they dismissed. Rutgers did the job they were suppose to do with a one and done money game. After watching Penn St and seeing the results of the Washington St game, Rutgers could potentially be 4 and 0 after the first 4 games. Army loses to Fordam again so the game should be a win. Indiana struggled against their FCS opponent so that is a winnable game. Now they have 6 wins and are bowl bound. Michigan and Maryland are flip / winnable games too. Tops Rutgers is 8 and 4. At worse they are 6 and 6 and go bowling. Flood saves his job with the email gig gone with the dismissed player. At the very least Flood gets to keep his job with 6 and 6 seasons with the turmoil at the administrative level above him and with the current payouts to dismissed previous coaches. Herman and her skeletons and the current Rutgers president that protects her must go before Flood will go unless Rutgers has losing seasons and Flood's contract is not renewed to avoid payouts for him and his staff.

(09-06-2015 09:30 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 09:01 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

Let's not kill Rutgers.. I mean they did just 50 points...

Oh, so it was only a TD game at half time at home and they just ran up the score against a team with an RPI of 221 that went 4-8 last year in one of the worst leagues in FCS...

Why can't Rutgers do like BC/UConn/Syracuse and schedule respectable FCS schools. Let's see Rutgers play Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, etc... Rutgers can't even schedule FCS games (like everyone else does) without screwing it up.

We scored 63 (won by 50) - and our starting secondary and linebackers were either in jail, or injured. and 5 starters, including caroo (who caught 3 passes for 3 TDs), didn't play until the second 1/2.

BTW I watched the UCANT game, it was ugly, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, and trust me, Villanova aint no top 5 FCS team after watching that. You guys were lucky to beat them.

And why should we play any differently then anyone else? Have you checked out who the mighty SEC plays? or the PAC 12? Besides, our conference schedule is hard enough, we don't need those kind of games at this point. Besides, after 2017 we won't be able to schedule them anymore because the B!G frowns on it. Maybe we'll be generous and throw UCANT a bone and play you.....but it would have to be 2 for 1, and your home game at METLIFE.

I can't help it your team got arrested.. just schedule respectable games... Villanova did not play well against UConn... I was shocked by how poorly they looked against UConn.. but at the same rate, Villanova would probably beat the team you beat by a similar score. Maybe some of Villanova's poor play was because UConn's defense is pretty decent.

The point isn't just UConn... look who other teams are scheduling. Every year Rutgers plays a FCS school, like most teams, but never a good one. I've seen UConn lose one, Syracuse almost lose one, BC and Temple get challenged. Buffalo beat the crap out of an Albany team that's touchdowns better than the team your beat.

Your in the Big 10 now. Step up the schedule. Syracuse has LSU doing a home-and-home... you guys got.... Washington State?

(09-07-2015 08:16 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 09:30 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 09:01 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

Let's not kill Rutgers.. I mean they did just 50 points...

Oh, so it was only a TD game at half time at home and they just ran up the score against a team with an RPI of 221 that went 4-8 last year in one of the worst leagues in FCS...

Why can't Rutgers do like BC/UConn/Syracuse and schedule respectable FCS schools. Let's see Rutgers play Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, etc... Rutgers can't even schedule FCS games (like everyone else does) without screwing it up.

We scored 63 (won by 50) - and our starting secondary and linebackers were either in jail, or injured. and 5 starters, including caroo (who caught 3 passes for 3 TDs), didn't play until the second 1/2.

BTW I watched the UCANT game, it was ugly, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, and trust me, Villanova aint no top 5 FCS team after watching that. You guys were lucky to beat them.

And why should we play any differently then anyone else? Have you checked out who the mighty SEC plays? or the PAC 12? Besides, our conference schedule is hard enough, we don't need those kind of games at this point. Besides, after 2017 we won't be able to schedule them anymore because the B!G frowns on it. Maybe we'll be generous and throw UCANT a bone and play you.....but it would have to be 2 for 1, and your home game at METLIFE.

I can't help it your team got arrested.. just schedule respectable games... Villanova did not play well against UConn... I was shocked by how poorly they looked against UConn.. but at the same rate, Villanova would probably beat the team you beat by a similar score. Maybe some of Villanova's poor play was because UConn's defense is pretty decent.

The point isn't just UConn... look who other teams are scheduling. Every year Rutgers plays a FCS school, like most teams, but never a good one. I've seen UConn lose one, Syracuse almost lose one, BC and Temple get challenged. Buffalo beat the crap out of an Albany team that's touchdowns better than the team your beat.

Your in the Big 10 now. Step up the schedule. Syracuse has LSU doing a home-and-home... you guys got.... Washington State?

Rutgers seems to like to hang their hats on the fact they are better than UConn... yes, you are currently better than a mid-tier to basement G5 football school. That's your fate in the Big 10. You beat Michigan once (I'll remind you that a better Michigan team the year before only beat UConn on a last minute field goal and that UConn team was so bad their coach got fired mid-season 2 weeks later). You aren't beating Michigan again with Harbaugh. You aren't beating Ohio State. You aren't beating Michigan State. I think Penn State had their wake up call so you aren't beating them again. That's 4 losses ever year. Maryland improves every year. So you'll split with them (just like you "split" your 9 Big East games with UConn going 5-4 against that basement G5 school). Indiana is always winnable because they struggle at football, but they do bring basketball to the table.

As a Big 10 fan, I tried to warn all my fellow fans hundreds of times that Rutgers was not going to add anything on the field. For over a decade, Rutgers was in the Big East basketball conference (equivalent to Big 10 football) and had every opportunity to recruit and build basketball.. 3 hours or less from the best basketball recruiting areas in the country - NYC/Philly/Baltimore... and nothing. Ever. And no Big East football titles.

And this wasn't counting the off-the-field/practice embarrassments.

Rutgers is a good academic school... a very good school... stick to that.

(09-07-2015 08:28 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 08:16 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 09:30 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 09:01 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

Let's not kill Rutgers.. I mean they did just 50 points...

Oh, so it was only a TD game at half time at home and they just ran up the score against a team with an RPI of 221 that went 4-8 last year in one of the worst leagues in FCS...

Why can't Rutgers do like BC/UConn/Syracuse and schedule respectable FCS schools. Let's see Rutgers play Villanova, Maine, New Hampshire, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, etc... Rutgers can't even schedule FCS games (like everyone else does) without screwing it up.

We scored 63 (won by 50) - and our starting secondary and linebackers were either in jail, or injured. and 5 starters, including caroo (who caught 3 passes for 3 TDs), didn't play until the second 1/2.

BTW I watched the UCANT game, it was ugly, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves, and trust me, Villanova aint no top 5 FCS team after watching that. You guys were lucky to beat them.

And why should we play any differently then anyone else? Have you checked out who the mighty SEC plays? or the PAC 12? Besides, our conference schedule is hard enough, we don't need those kind of games at this point. Besides, after 2017 we won't be able to schedule them anymore because the B!G frowns on it. Maybe we'll be generous and throw UCANT a bone and play you.....but it would have to be 2 for 1, and your home game at METLIFE.

I can't help it your team got arrested.. just schedule respectable games... Villanova did not play well against UConn... I was shocked by how poorly they looked against UConn.. but at the same rate, Villanova would probably beat the team you beat by a similar score. Maybe some of Villanova's poor play was because UConn's defense is pretty decent.

The point isn't just UConn... look who other teams are scheduling. Every year Rutgers plays a FCS school, like most teams, but never a good one. I've seen UConn lose one, Syracuse almost lose one, BC and Temple get challenged. Buffalo beat the crap out of an Albany team that's touchdowns better than the team your beat.

Your in the Big 10 now. Step up the schedule. Syracuse has LSU doing a home-and-home... you guys got.... Washington State?

Rutgers seems to like to hang their hats on the fact they are better than UConn... yes, you are currently better than a mid-tier to basement G5 football school. That's your fate in the Big 10. You beat Michigan once (I'll remind you that a better Michigan team the year before only beat UConn on a last minute field goal and that UConn team was so bad their coach got fired mid-season 2 weeks later). You aren't beating Michigan again with Harbaugh. You aren't beating Ohio State. You aren't beating Michigan State. I think Penn State had their wake up call so you aren't beating them again. That's 4 losses ever year. Maryland improves every year. So you'll split with them (just like you "split" your 9 Big East games with UConn going 5-4 against that basement G5 school). Indiana is always winnable because they struggle at football, but they do bring basketball to the table.

As a Big 10 fan, I tried to warn all my fellow fans hundreds of times that Rutgers was not going to add anything on the field. For over a decade, Rutgers was in the Big East basketball conference (equivalent to Big 10 football) and had every opportunity to recruit and build basketball.. 3 hours or less from the best basketball recruiting areas in the country - NYC/Philly/Baltimore... and nothing. Ever. And no Big East football titles.

And this wasn't counting the off-the-field/practice embarrassments.

Rutgers is a good academic school... a very good school... stick to that.

Schedule good games? Remember this one from 2013?

Saturday
Sep. 21 Florida A&M Rattlers vs THE Ohio State, Ohio Stadium, Columbus, OH Won 76-0

Boy that was a tough one for THE OSU. Your schedule the past couple of years hasn't been bad - kudos to you for dropping the dregs. At this point, RU doesn't have the cash to buy out the MEAC games, so we keep playing them

This year we have Kansas and Washington St. Ain't our fault they suck now. These things are scheduled way in advance. And when we did schedule the MEAC teams, we were in the Big East, without a lot of cash. That will change once the contract runs out with the MEAC.

As far as the VU vs UCONN game, if your honest, they both looked terrible. UCONNs defense had nothing to do with that game....VU just ain't that good. and neither is UCONN.

(09-04-2015 01:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 12:54 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So to sum up the B1G's eastern expansion philosophy, it has included pedophiles, a mob wannabee, and some beggars from outside the DC Beltway.

B1G standards leave something to be desired IMO.

And your bias towards the Big Ten continues, keep hating, sorry we can't handle the mighty Mountaineers.

I call 'em like I see 'em. If that upsets you, you should choose a better class of candidate for expansion.

I'm not going to dignify any Rutgers' fan's comments. They have nothing to say in this matter any longer. Their time to speak on this issue is long past, which is why it's now a national embarrassment.

Look, I'm not a fan of eastward expansion, I wanted to hold out for Mizzou, Kansas, and maybe Vandy and Oklahoma to finish it off. But you have to use the cards you are dealt. But you Bit, continue and continue to harp and attack Big Ten fans and teams here on these boards, you add no value and are just a complete nuisance (saying a lot considering I deal with and ignore ACC, AAC, and MAC fans on a regular basis on their bias and hatred towards the Big Ten).

(09-03-2015 10:01 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 08:16 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Do huh?

DU HAST MICH

Unglaublich!

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:31 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 09:12 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 11:13 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  I think the B1G should've taken a harder look at UCONN instead of Rutgers.

I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.

They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.

The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.

Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.

I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.

I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.

RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

(09-07-2015 03:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:31 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 09:12 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 11:13 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  I think the B1G should've taken a harder look at UCONN instead of Rutgers.

I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.

They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.

The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.

Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.

I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.

I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.

RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

(09-07-2015 03:39 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:31 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 09:12 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.

They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.

The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.

Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.

I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.

I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.

RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

(09-07-2015 04:04 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:39 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 11:31 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.

The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.

Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.

I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.

I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.

RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Ok, post Rutgers big scheduling gets in the past decade out of conference... I'm thinking Arkansas, North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Kansas ? I'm going by memory but I can't remember any others. Which of those programs is ever a power? Which one is usually bad.

UConn scheduled Michigan, Notre Dame, Baylor, North Carolina, Maryland... without the power of the Big 10 to help. Syracuse has scheduled USC, LSU, Washington I think?... BC has had USC..

But rather than just making opinion-ed statements, let's look at these facts:

Syracuse won the Big East when the good teams were still in the Big East. Rutgers never won the Big East. Syracuse has already had some "upside". What about Rutgers?

Rutgers had all those years to get up to speed with everyone in the Big East in basketball with the same great recruiting area - I'm betting the best finish Rutgers ever had in the Big East was 4th but most were behind South Florida and ahead of Depaul. No NCAA tournament appearances?

Rutgers never dominated the Big East, even when it sucked at the end other than Louisville, WV and Cincy... how are they going to going to compete in a way better Big 10?

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Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

(09-07-2015 04:17 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:04 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:39 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.

I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.

RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Ok, post Rutgers big scheduling gets in the past decade out of conference... I'm thinking Arkansas, North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Kansas ? I'm going by memory but I can't remember any others. Which of those programs is ever a power? Which one is usually bad.

UConn scheduled Michigan, Notre Dame, Baylor, North Carolina, Maryland... without the power of the Big 10 to help. Syracuse has scheduled USC, LSU, Washington I think?... BC has had USC..

But rather than just making opinion-ed statements, let's look at these facts:

Syracuse won the Big East when the good teams were still in the Big East. Rutgers never won the Big East. Syracuse has already had some "upside". What about Rutgers?

Rutgers had all those years to get up to speed with everyone in the Big East in basketball with the same great recruiting area - I'm betting the best finish Rutgers ever had in the Big East was 4th but most were behind South Florida and ahead of Depaul. No NCAA tournament appearances?

Rutgers never dominated the Big East, even when it sucked at the end other than Louisville, WV and Cincy... how are they going to going to compete in a way better Big 10?

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Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

And show me once where I ever said Rutgers was a powerhouse? I ain't that dumb. Our schedule reflects where we were (and still are) at the time - mediocre. And ain't no powerhouse going to give RU a 1 for 1 back in the day, and we had a stadium to pay for (and we weren't getting B1G money like you were). Heck, we told ND to pack salt when they wanted our game to be at METLIFE (but UCONN didn't, guess they're OK with their home games not being at home - same goes for Syracuse)

But that crack pipe still has you syracuse fans living as if Donavan McNabb was still your QB. You will never see that kind of player at SU again.

And to be honest, OSU's out of conference schedule is really full of powerhouses right? Just the past 5-6 years, Youngstown St, Ohio U, Troy, Toledo, New Mexico, St, Eastern Michigan, Akron, Marshall, Miami (not da U) UAB, and this year, bring on Hawaii, SDST, VTech? NIU? They maybe FBS, but they ain't that good either and I bet other than VTECH, Ohio State won't be visiting the ZIPs stadium for a return visit? Maybe you should schedule a top 5 FCS too like UCONN did.

How can you even say with a straight face that those are "power G5s"? Glass houses ya know.....

Try not to lay an egg tonite like you did last year against VTech .

(09-07-2015 05:24 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:17 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:04 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:39 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  RU was a TV add in as much as PSU gets great ratings and having RU keeps PSU from getting blocked out of playing relevant NE teams on a consistent basis. Virtually every one of PSU's historic and/or natural rivals is in the ACC - Pitt, SU, ND (ish), VT, UMD (ish - at the time), and Miami (ish). Miami aside, except for RU, those are the schools with a very significant presence near PSU's donors. And aside from UMD, RU is the only school out of that group that's willing to join the B1G over their current conference. Had the B1G not added UMD and RU, there is a very real possibility that PSU would have jumped to the ACC with the ND add.

Keep in mind that PSU and Pitt have a scheduling freeze and that PSU and SU have dropped off in scheduling for a number of reasons, the biggest of which being conference schedules. Seeing as the B1G is going to 9 games (I think) and the ACC plays more games than the BIG EAST did (the BE played 7 conference games), the value of an in-conference regional team increased.

As for your NJ argument, I don't disagree that state boundaries are somewhat arbitrary. However, maintaining a strong presence in the area between NYC and Phi is crucial to PSU's long-term success - in both athletics and academics. Call that whatever you want. I call it mostly NJ.

UMD is important for the same reasons as RU, only they also have fans and competitive teams.

For whatever it's worth, I think that the B1G made a mistake by not taking Mizzou, Syracuse, and UMD when the conference added Nebraska. However, the conference will survive and thrive, so life moves on.

Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Ok, post Rutgers big scheduling gets in the past decade out of conference... I'm thinking Arkansas, North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Kansas ? I'm going by memory but I can't remember any others. Which of those programs is ever a power? Which one is usually bad.

UConn scheduled Michigan, Notre Dame, Baylor, North Carolina, Maryland... without the power of the Big 10 to help. Syracuse has scheduled USC, LSU, Washington I think?... BC has had USC..

But rather than just making opinion-ed statements, let's look at these facts:

Syracuse won the Big East when the good teams were still in the Big East. Rutgers never won the Big East. Syracuse has already had some "upside". What about Rutgers?

Rutgers had all those years to get up to speed with everyone in the Big East in basketball with the same great recruiting area - I'm betting the best finish Rutgers ever had in the Big East was 4th but most were behind South Florida and ahead of Depaul. No NCAA tournament appearances?

Rutgers never dominated the Big East, even when it sucked at the end other than Louisville, WV and Cincy... how are they going to going to compete in a way better Big 10?

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Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

And show me once where I ever said Rutgers was a powerhouse? I ain't that dumb. Our schedule reflects where we were (and still are) at the time - mediocre. And ain't no powerhouse going to give RU a 1 for 1 back in the day, and we had a stadium to pay for (and we weren't getting B1G money like you were). Heck, we told ND to pack salt when they wanted our game to be at METLIFE (but UCONN didn't, guess they're OK with their home games not being at home - same goes for Syracuse)

But that crack pipe still has you syracuse fans living as if Donavan McNabb was still your QB. You will never see that kind of player at SU again.

And to be honest, OSU's out of conference schedule is really full of powerhouses right? Just the past 5-6 years, Youngstown St, Ohio U, Troy, Toledo, New Mexico, St, Eastern Michigan, Akron, Marshall, Miami (not da U) UAB, and this year, bring on Hawaii, SDST, VTech? NIU? They maybe FBS, but they ain't that good either and I bet other than VTECH, Ohio State won't be visiting the ZIPs stadium for a return visit? Maybe you should schedule a top 5 FCS too like UCONN did.

How can you even say with a straight face that those are "power G5s"? Glass houses ya know.....

Try not to lay an egg tonite like you did last year against VTech .

Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.
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Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

Thanks for proving my point.

(09-07-2015 05:57 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:24 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:17 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:04 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 03:39 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  Syracuse has more upside than Rutgers. Syracuse is farther from NYC than BC (at least driving.. no good way to get to Syracuse from NYC.. scenic drive though if you do the 17 thing) but Syracuse is more relevant to NYC. Syracuse has had a rough decade in football but once they have the right coach for awhile they will be good again. Syracuse won the Big East when they still have good teams.... more than I can say from the NJ school.

As for Ohio State scheduling Florida A/M.... yeah... they did. They also scheduled decent G5s though.. Cincinnati.. NIU... SDSU.. Kansas is never good at football.. Washington State is only relevant when they have a decent QB. If it was Washington scheduled, that would be different. The only risk Rutgers ever took in G5 scheduling was the home/home with Arkansas when Arkansas ended up being pretty bad and North Carolina when they were going through coaching changes. Ohio State scheduled home and homes with Texas, USC, Oklahoma coming up, Va Tech. Rutgers is a Big 10 school... they could get those home-home games. Even UConn scheduled Tennessee (may not be played) and home-home with Missouri.

I think Maryland is already showing their worth in basketball at least where they are pre-season top 5. I like Edsall and I think he's learned how to coach and recruit at Maryland rather than UConn.

You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Ok, post Rutgers big scheduling gets in the past decade out of conference... I'm thinking Arkansas, North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Kansas ? I'm going by memory but I can't remember any others. Which of those programs is ever a power? Which one is usually bad.

UConn scheduled Michigan, Notre Dame, Baylor, North Carolina, Maryland... without the power of the Big 10 to help. Syracuse has scheduled USC, LSU, Washington I think?... BC has had USC..

But rather than just making opinion-ed statements, let's look at these facts:

Syracuse won the Big East when the good teams were still in the Big East. Rutgers never won the Big East. Syracuse has already had some "upside". What about Rutgers?

Rutgers had all those years to get up to speed with everyone in the Big East in basketball with the same great recruiting area - I'm betting the best finish Rutgers ever had in the Big East was 4th but most were behind South Florida and ahead of Depaul. No NCAA tournament appearances?

Rutgers never dominated the Big East, even when it sucked at the end other than Louisville, WV and Cincy... how are they going to going to compete in a way better Big 10?

------------

Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

And show me once where I ever said Rutgers was a powerhouse? I ain't that dumb. Our schedule reflects where we were (and still are) at the time - mediocre. And ain't no powerhouse going to give RU a 1 for 1 back in the day, and we had a stadium to pay for (and we weren't getting B1G money like you were). Heck, we told ND to pack salt when they wanted our game to be at METLIFE (but UCONN didn't, guess they're OK with their home games not being at home - same goes for Syracuse)

But that crack pipe still has you syracuse fans living as if Donavan McNabb was still your QB. You will never see that kind of player at SU again.

And to be honest, OSU's out of conference schedule is really full of powerhouses right? Just the past 5-6 years, Youngstown St, Ohio U, Troy, Toledo, New Mexico, St, Eastern Michigan, Akron, Marshall, Miami (not da U) UAB, and this year, bring on Hawaii, SDST, VTech? NIU? They maybe FBS, but they ain't that good either and I bet other than VTECH, Ohio State won't be visiting the ZIPs stadium for a return visit? Maybe you should schedule a top 5 FCS too like UCONN did.

How can you even say with a straight face that those are "power G5s"? Glass houses ya know.....

Try not to lay an egg tonite like you did last year against VTech .

Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

Thanks for proving my point.
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Talking to someone who likes UCONN about conference realignment is like giving yourself an enema. Only the enema feels better. Oy Vey.

This is pointless.

Adios and good luck tonite with Virginia Tech, like a said, don't lay an egg.

(09-03-2015 10:01 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 08:16 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Do huh?

DU HAST MICH

well done. Gutentag.

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either.

After taking the biggest FB national name brand available north of Texas, I reckon the Big Ten didn't want to keep moving west into more of the same demographic malaise that exists in much of the Big Ten core. They preferred to move East.

But they didn't prefer to move east strongly enough to take UConn. The Rutgers Athletic Department may be a hot mess, but it doesn't seem to be affecting the academic standing of the University in the way that the bogus programs at UNC have been a stain on UNC's academic status.

(09-07-2015 06:05 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:57 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:24 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:17 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 04:04 PM)penguino Wrote:  You're smoking crack if you think syracuse has more upside than RU anymore.

And your argument about scheduling, it appears that RU is damned if they do, and damned if they don't

One thing is for sure - RU is living rent free in alot folks heads at this point. As many of you have said in the past - RU ain't worth anything. Except now it is probably one of the most talked about schools on this board - good or bad. Heck, if it weren't I wouldn't be posting, because I only post when you all bring it up.

Mission accomplished Mr Delaney........

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Ok, post Rutgers big scheduling gets in the past decade out of conference... I'm thinking Arkansas, North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Kansas ? I'm going by memory but I can't remember any others. Which of those programs is ever a power? Which one is usually bad.

UConn scheduled Michigan, Notre Dame, Baylor, North Carolina, Maryland... without the power of the Big 10 to help. Syracuse has scheduled USC, LSU, Washington I think?... BC has had USC..

But rather than just making opinion-ed statements, let's look at these facts:

Syracuse won the Big East when the good teams were still in the Big East. Rutgers never won the Big East. Syracuse has already had some "upside". What about Rutgers?

Rutgers had all those years to get up to speed with everyone in the Big East in basketball with the same great recruiting area - I'm betting the best finish Rutgers ever had in the Big East was 4th but most were behind South Florida and ahead of Depaul. No NCAA tournament appearances?

Rutgers never dominated the Big East, even when it sucked at the end other than Louisville, WV and Cincy... how are they going to going to compete in a way better Big 10?

------------

Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

And show me once where I ever said Rutgers was a powerhouse? I ain't that dumb. Our schedule reflects where we were (and still are) at the time - mediocre. And ain't no powerhouse going to give RU a 1 for 1 back in the day, and we had a stadium to pay for (and we weren't getting B1G money like you were). Heck, we told ND to pack salt when they wanted our game to be at METLIFE (but UCONN didn't, guess they're OK with their home games not being at home - same goes for Syracuse)

But that crack pipe still has you syracuse fans living as if Donavan McNabb was still your QB. You will never see that kind of player at SU again.

And to be honest, OSU's out of conference schedule is really full of powerhouses right? Just the past 5-6 years, Youngstown St, Ohio U, Troy, Toledo, New Mexico, St, Eastern Michigan, Akron, Marshall, Miami (not da U) UAB, and this year, bring on Hawaii, SDST, VTech? NIU? They maybe FBS, but they ain't that good either and I bet other than VTECH, Ohio State won't be visiting the ZIPs stadium for a return visit? Maybe you should schedule a top 5 FCS too like UCONN did.

How can you even say with a straight face that those are "power G5s"? Glass houses ya know.....

Try not to lay an egg tonite like you did last year against VTech .

Being waiting for those answers for a long time. None should contain the word "UConn" because they are an awful G5 football team and one of the best 5 basketball programs over the past decade - neither of those things relate to Rutgers.

Stop living in the past. When was the last time syracuse was good....And in Football, be honest - UCONN was never really that good. Their infamous BCS bowl at 8-4 put the nail in the Big East conferences coffin. Have they ever finished the season ranked?

Thanks for proving my point.

Talking to someone who likes UCONN about conference realignment is like giving yourself an enema. Only the enema feels better. Oy Vey.

This is pointless.

Adios and good luck tonite with Virginia Tech, like a said, don't lay an egg.
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SU has more BE championships than RU in SU's last 10 years in the conference, and that marked a low water mark for SU and a high water mark for RU.

(09-04-2015 04:24 PM)jskwrite Wrote:  I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.

I didn't want to respond to this thread because people are entitled to their own opinions and thoughts, but they aren't entitled to their own facts. New Jersey, yes is a small geographic state, but its a very large population state which produces a disproportionate amount of football talent relative to its population ranking.

As for no favors, we were expected to finish last in our division in football last year with a losing record. We finished middle of the pack with a bowl win over a decent UNC team. Nothing to get overly excited about sure, but I hardly call that doing ourselves no favors. Wrestling, women's soccer acquitted themselves nicely as well. Again we didn't light the world on fire with performance overall, but by most observations we weren't head scratching, doomsday dregs nearly everyone said we would be.

Other than that its conjecture, that I largely disagree with, but to each their own and Rutgers deserves the bashing on how the ship is run.