jskwrite
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RE: Rutgers
(09-03-2015 11:13 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: I think the B1G should've taken a harder look at UCONN instead of Rutgers.
I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.
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09-04-2015 09:12 AM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: Rutgers
So to sum up the B1G's eastern expansion philosophy, it has included pedophiles, a mob wannabee, and some beggars from outside the DC Beltway.
B1G standards leave something to be desired IMO.
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09-04-2015 11:20 AM |
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nzmorange
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 09:12 AM)jskwrite Wrote: (09-03-2015 11:13 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: I think the B1G should've taken a harder look at UCONN instead of Rutgers.
I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.
They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.
The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.
Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.
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DexterDevil
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 11:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: So to sum up the B1G's eastern expansion philosophy, it has included pedophiles, a mob wannabee, and some beggars from outside the DC Beltway.
B1G standards leave something to be desired IMO.
And your bias towards the Big Ten continues, keep hating, sorry we can't handle the mighty Mountaineers.
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penguino
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 11:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: So to sum up the B1G's eastern expansion philosophy, it has included pedophiles, a mob wannabee, and some beggars from outside the DC Beltway.
B1G standards leave something to be desired IMO.
This is classic, a guy who roots for a university with no standards at all to get in, complaining about B1G standards. Sorry if couch burning doesn't count for anything.....
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exCincy Kid1
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RE: Rutgers
..and Rutger's AD is a known liar as well as has been widely documented after her hire.
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09-04-2015 01:07 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 12:54 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: (09-04-2015 11:20 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: So to sum up the B1G's eastern expansion philosophy, it has included pedophiles, a mob wannabee, and some beggars from outside the DC Beltway.
B1G standards leave something to be desired IMO.
And your bias towards the Big Ten continues, keep hating, sorry we can't handle the mighty Mountaineers.
I call 'em like I see 'em. If that upsets you, you should choose a better class of candidate for expansion.
I'm not going to dignify any Rutgers' fan's comments. They have nothing to say in this matter any longer. Their time to speak on this issue is long past, which is why it's now a national embarrassment.
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Flood was CHEAP Horrible hire.He went from ol coach to hc.
Pernetti the x-ad hired him because he was CHEAP not good.
He hired a mens bb coach the same way.
The coordinators hired under flood were similar to him.Not ready for big time.He was lucky he hired the UMD hc as as his OC last year.
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09-04-2015 02:43 PM |
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penguino
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Wow, WV #6.....Something to be proud of. I guess bit cruncher really has a reason not to respond now. Pot meet Kettle.
20 players arrested...hmmmmm
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09-04-2015 02:45 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 02:45 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Wow, WV #6.....Something to be proud of. I guess bit cruncher really has a reason not to respond now. Pot meet Kettle.
20 players arrested...hmmmmm
WVU is a party school. Gee is trying to change that, with some small successes. There are a number of DUIs every year in Morgantown, which is to be expected in such an environment.
I'll give you the Kyle Rose misdemeanor assault on a policeman. But he was drunk at the time. Imagine that.
For the purposes of this list, a DUI counts as one, as does murder, molestation, or anything else that gets you arrested. So I take this list with a grain of salt.
But since I'm not one of the people getting arrested, I can say whatever the hell I want about the situation. Just because there's a bunch of morons around me doesn't mean I have to be one too.
You have the same option, you know. You don't have to blindly band together to protect something you'd fight, simply because they go to your school, or play in your conference. Exercise some judgement, instead of pointing fingers at others, trying to deflect attention from yourself or your school, or whatever else you may want to ignore.
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09-04-2015 04:01 PM |
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jskwrite
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 11:31 AM)nzmorange Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:12 AM)jskwrite Wrote: (09-03-2015 11:13 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: I think the B1G should've taken a harder look at UCONN instead of Rutgers.
I'd agree... but even as a UConn fan they should have waited to raid someone from the Big 12 rather than Rutgers. But UConn is starting to look like it would be the better choice more and more every day.
They raided the NYC team to keep PSU happy. PSU cares about NYC because that's where their alumni donations are coming from. PSU also recruits out of NJ for students and athletes. A very similar argument could be made for UMD, only taking UMD from the ACC has the added benefit of destabilizing the ACC by exacerbating an existing north-south cultural divide. UMD was a bridge school that was northern enough to give the ACC north the feeling of a northern conference and southern enough to give the ACC south the feeling of a southern conference. They made everyone happy.
The B1G cares about PSU because PSU brings mountains of cash into the conference, so losing them would be a major blow - especially if PSU jumped to a rival conference. And, the B1G cares about destabilizing the ACC because I think that the B1G is interested in picking up ACC schools.
Adding UConn wouldn't have had quite the same effect, and adding a Big XII team not named Texas could have caused PSU to jump. The B1G made the right move.
I like the Maryland add. Maryland has tremendous upside. I think that should have been enough to keep Penn State happy. After all, I never saw Penn State rushing to get games with Rutgers before (compared to, say, Syracuse or Pitt). I just think they'd have been better adding a Kansas or Oklahoma and I think they had a legit chance at either. As is they ended up picking a middle of the pack Big East school.
I understand the "TV Contract" aspect of Rutgers. I think they'd add more households if they got Syracuse, maybe UConn. I think the "recruit NJ" thing is overrated. NJ is a tiny geographic state. A lot of these big recruits are just suburban Philly or NYC kids... they just happen to live on the other side of a river 20 miles away. Nothing more than a geographic marker to identify them as "NJ kids". The distance from Philly to Cherry hill NJ is a lot shorter than a Tampa kid vs. a Miami kid. Yet we lump Florida recruits all together.
Rutgers has done nothing to help their cause since they've joined the Big 10. Granted, Syracuse, UConn, Kansas and Pitt have all been football disasters have all been horrible in football the past couple years, Rutgers has been a 6 win team but hasn't beaten a ranked team in 5 years. When was the last quality Rutgers football win? And even with their current issue, Syracuse basketball will be better than Rutgers for the foreseeable future, Pitt is definitely better and Kansas and UConn are national title contenders in basketball. TV ratings is about content... easier to get content in a 30 game college basketball season than a 12 game (you have access to only 9-10 though) football season.
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09-04-2015 04:24 PM |
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RE: Rutgers
Don't go by the number of arrests. Go by the seiousness of the crimes comitted. Florida State would be at the top with rape, assaulting women and so forth. Beaking and entering and robbery that are not violent is not that serious. Unless that you are car jacking people with a gun.
That one kid that was shot by the police officer in Texas on video showed how violent he was. Since we don't know what went down with the shooting of him, but we got to look at the evidence that lead up to the tragic incident. We all of a sudden making police officers as bad guys these days, and making criminals as heroes.
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09-04-2015 04:33 PM |
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penguino
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:45 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Wow, WV #6.....Something to be proud of. I guess bit cruncher really has a reason not to respond now. Pot meet Kettle.
20 players arrested...hmmmmm
WVU is a party school. Gee is trying to change that, with some small successes. There are a number of DUIs every year in Morgantown, which is to be expected in such an environment.
I'll give you the Kyle Rose misdemeanor assault on a policeman. But he was drunk at the time. Imagine that.
For the purposes of this list, a DUI counts as one, as does murder, molestation, or anything else that gets you arrested. So I take this list with a grain of salt.
But since I'm not one of the people getting arrested, I can say whatever the hell I want about the situation. Just because there's a bunch of morons around me doesn't mean I have to be one too.
You have the same option, you know. You don't have to blindly band together to protect something you'd fight, simply because they go to your school, or play in your conference. Exercise some judgement, instead of pointing fingers at others, trying to deflect attention from yourself or your school, or whatever else you may want to ignore.
I haven't defended one of the scum that were arrested at RU, Throw'em off now. We're too good for that crap, and if Flood knew and didn't tell the admin, fire his you know what too. I just find it amazing that you, a WV fan, has the b*lls to come on here and rag on another school who is no where near as bad as you guys are....maybe some day RU can get to the stellar heights on this list that you guys have reached, but we've got a loooong way to go.
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 12:01 AM)Okielite Wrote: (09-03-2015 11:53 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: (09-03-2015 11:45 PM)Okielite Wrote: DO you realize how lame it is to post a huge picture of your school schedule on every post? ^^^^^
Is that question relevant? Think it's annoying then report it or something, don't just complain.
This isn't a complaint to the mods type of deal and that is also lame anyway. Yau won't find me whining to them.
Can you imagine if every fan put a huge pic of their schedule as a sig. Pages of that crap.
It's like he is so proud that Louisville plays a real schedule that he wants to show everybody. Lame.
Sounds like somebody's just butty-Hurt they missed out on ol' Villie ta join their conference. At least OU saw the value in the /cards and tried to get 'em in.
Ah well, I'm sure you'll find a landing spot when the B12 goes: BOOM
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09-05-2015 12:21 AM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 05:19 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:45 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: (09-04-2015 09:07 AM)Clammy Wrote: It's a big story, a huge disappointment, and an unacceptable situation, but just remember to keep things in perspective before declaring Rutgers "dead" or a "bad egg."
Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Wow, WV #6.....Something to be proud of. I guess bit cruncher really has a reason not to respond now. Pot meet Kettle.
20 players arrested...hmmmmm
WVU is a party school. Gee is trying to change that, with some small successes. There are a number of DUIs every year in Morgantown, which is to be expected in such an environment.
I'll give you the Kyle Rose misdemeanor assault on a policeman. But he was drunk at the time. Imagine that.
For the purposes of this list, a DUI counts as one, as does murder, molestation, or anything else that gets you arrested. So I take this list with a grain of salt.
But since I'm not one of the people getting arrested, I can say whatever the hell I want about the situation. Just because there's a bunch of morons around me doesn't mean I have to be one too.
You have the same option, you know. You don't have to blindly band together to protect something you'd fight, simply because they go to your school, or play in your conference. Exercise some judgement, instead of pointing fingers at others, trying to deflect attention from yourself or your school, or whatever else you may want to ignore.
I haven't defended one of the scum that were arrested at RU, Throw'em off now. We're too good for that crap, and if Flood knew and didn't tell the admin, fire his you know what too. I just find it amazing that you, a WV fan, has the b*lls to come on here and rag on another school who is no where near as bad as you guys are....maybe some day RU can get to the stellar heights on this list that you guys have reached, but we've got a loooong way to go.
You are a complete and utter moron. You equate a bunch of young kids getting into drunken antics in Morgantown to the mafia style actions in Piscataway of the Rutgers football coach and his players, and you have the audacity to say that WVU is WORSE than Rutgers.
I'm done talking to you now. You've proven yourself ignorant on this subject, since you haven't the intellect needed to determine the criminal scales involved here. Come back and talk to me when you grow up.
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penguino
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RE: Rutgers
(09-05-2015 08:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: (09-04-2015 05:19 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 04:01 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:45 PM)penguino Wrote: (09-04-2015 02:09 PM)goofus Wrote: Interesting. I guess they do actually arrest football players in Florida. Must just be Tallahassee where they are off-limits.
Wow, WV #6.....Something to be proud of. I guess bit cruncher really has a reason not to respond now. Pot meet Kettle.
20 players arrested...hmmmmm
WVU is a party school. Gee is trying to change that, with some small successes. There are a number of DUIs every year in Morgantown, which is to be expected in such an environment.
I'll give you the Kyle Rose misdemeanor assault on a policeman. But he was drunk at the time. Imagine that.
For the purposes of this list, a DUI counts as one, as does murder, molestation, or anything else that gets you arrested. So I take this list with a grain of salt.
But since I'm not one of the people getting arrested, I can say whatever the hell I want about the situation. Just because there's a bunch of morons around me doesn't mean I have to be one too.
You have the same option, you know. You don't have to blindly band together to protect something you'd fight, simply because they go to your school, or play in your conference. Exercise some judgement, instead of pointing fingers at others, trying to deflect attention from yourself or your school, or whatever else you may want to ignore.
I haven't defended one of the scum that were arrested at RU, Throw'em off now. We're too good for that crap, and if Flood knew and didn't tell the admin, fire his you know what too. I just find it amazing that you, a WV fan, has the b*lls to come on here and rag on another school who is no where near as bad as you guys are....maybe some day RU can get to the stellar heights on this list that you guys have reached, but we've got a loooong way to go.
You are a complete and utter moron. You equate a bunch of young kids getting into drunken antics in Morgantown to the mafia style actions in Piscataway of the Rutgers football coach and his players, and you have the audacity to say that WVU is WORSE than Rutgers.
I'm done talking to you now. You've proven yourself ignorant on this subject, since you haven't the intellect needed to determine the criminal scales involved here. Come back and talk to me when you grow up.
You said you were done on the subject before too. I guess I hit a nerve....
Q: If you have a car containing a West Virginia Mountaineers wide receiver, a West Virginia Mountaineers linebacker, and a West Virginia Mountaineers defensive back, who is driving the car?
A: The cop.
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RE: Rutgers
(09-04-2015 07:34 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote: (09-03-2015 07:24 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Quality
If you are going to point out all of our negatives, please at least post what it is that happened. Most other members would also appropriate a link to read about whatever you bring up so that they can understand what "Quality" means. Being a Rutgers fan, I caught the meaning of your OP immediately. However, your unhealthy obsession with RU isn't common among the posters on this board.
He also has an unhealthy obsession with UCONN's HC Bob Diaco. Personally, I think it's just an intense man-crush.
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09-05-2015 11:45 AM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: Rutgers
(09-05-2015 09:15 AM)penguino Wrote: Q: If you have a car containing a West Virginia Mountaineers wide receiver, a West Virginia Mountaineers linebacker, and a West Virginia Mountaineers defensive back, who is driving the car?
The Guido that stole it.
(This post was last modified: 09-05-2015 01:27 PM by bitcruncher.)
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