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(07-06-2015 11:30 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.

Envy? It's like sitting on a open air deck on the front of a mobile home complete with artificial blue grass
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Clearly you've never been invited in. Shocked. Nice sig pic...
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(07-06-2015 01:48 PM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 11:30 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.

Envy? It's like sitting on a open air deck on the front of a mobile home complete with artificial blue grass

The best way I can describe WKU's stadium is this:

It's like your wife just finished having her sixth kid, she lost 75 pounds and you got one of her boobs done.

The old side of that stadium is a $h!t show.
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(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.
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(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers
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(07-06-2015 03:58 PM)theboro Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:48 PM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 11:30 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.

Envy? It's like sitting on a open air deck on the front of a mobile home complete with artificial blue grass

The best way I can describe WKU's stadium is this:

It's like your wife just finished having her sixth kid, she lost 75 pounds and you got one of her boobs done.

The old side of that stadium is a $h!t show.

Our old side is still very nice. It's nicer than the best part of MTSU's stadium. I was there for the WKU/MTSU game last year and laughed my ass off when I walked up to it. It's a glorified high school stadium with nothing but aluminum bleachers.
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(07-06-2015 06:14 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 03:58 PM)theboro Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:48 PM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 11:30 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.

Envy? It's like sitting on a open air deck on the front of a mobile home complete with artificial blue grass

The best way I can describe WKU's stadium is this:

It's like your wife just finished having her sixth kid, she lost 75 pounds and you got one of her boobs done.

The old side of that stadium is a $h!t show.

Our old side is still very nice. It's nicer than the best part of MTSU's stadium. I was there for the WKU/MTSU game last year and laughed my ass off when I walked up to it. It's a glorified high school stadium with nothing but aluminum bleachers.

All the MT fans we're laughing their ass off on the way out! 04-cheers
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(07-06-2015 07:37 PM)BigSkyGuy Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 06:14 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 03:58 PM)theboro Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:48 PM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 11:30 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.

Envy? It's like sitting on a open air deck on the front of a mobile home complete with artificial blue grass

The best way I can describe WKU's stadium is this:

It's like your wife just finished having her sixth kid, she lost 75 pounds and you got one of her boobs done.

The old side of that stadium is a $h!t show.

Our old side is still very nice. It's nicer than the best part of MTSU's stadium. I was there for the WKU/MTSU game last year and laughed my ass off when I walked up to it. It's a glorified high school stadium with nothing but aluminum bleachers.

All the MT fans we're laughing their ass off on the way out! 04-cheers

And I was about to puke my guts out. 03-puke looking for some pay back this season
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(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers

And I a bit older. Do either of you remember that they used to have listening booths in record stores where you could go to listen to a 45 before you plunked down your 39 cents? Heck, I even have some 78s and a record made in 1949 that is very heavy and solid.
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(07-06-2015 09:26 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/LATechSB/status/618240450177032192

Looks great!
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Yeah that looks awesome guys. I bet you all are pumped for this. Going to add a lot to the look and feel of the stadium.
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(07-06-2015 08:44 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers

And I a bit older. Do either of you remember that they used to have listening booths in record stores where you could go to listen to a 45 before you plunked down your 39 cents? Heck, I even have some 78s and a record made in 1949 that is very heavy and solid.

As a young child I remember a few record shops still having listening booths. That heavy and solid 78 you own would be a shellack record. They are thick and rigid, but unlike vinyl records, they hold up fairly well to scratches. Those are what I listen to. Mostly the pre-WWII crooners from the 20's and 30's, but I have some that are older.
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(07-06-2015 10:49 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 08:44 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers

And I a bit older. Do either of you remember that they used to have listening booths in record stores where you could go to listen to a 45 before you plunked down your 39 cents? Heck, I even have some 78s and a record made in 1949 that is very heavy and solid.

As a young child I remember a few record shops still having listening booths. That heavy and solid 78 you own would be a shellack record. They are thick and rigid, but unlike vinyl records, they hold up fairly well to scratches. Those are what I listen to. Mostly the pre-WWII crooners from the 20's and 30's, but I have some that are older.

I was born in '66, turned 49 in June, but don't remember listening booths. Don't have any 78's but do have 45's and I still have a ton of cassettes also (and plenty of pens and pencils...lol).
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(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:49 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 08:44 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers

And I a bit older. Do either of you remember that they used to have listening booths in record stores where you could go to listen to a 45 before you plunked down your 39 cents? Heck, I even have some 78s and a record made in 1949 that is very heavy and solid.

As a young child I remember a few record shops still having listening booths. That heavy and solid 78 you own would be a shellack record. They are thick and rigid, but unlike vinyl records, they hold up fairly well to scratches. Those are what I listen to. Mostly the pre-WWII crooners from the 20's and 30's, but I have some that are older.

I was born in '66, turned 49 in June, but don't remember listening booths. Don't have any 78's but do have 45's and I still have a ton of cassettes also (and plenty of pens and pencils...lol).

Born in '45.
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(07-06-2015 08:44 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 04:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 09:28 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.

I'm actually impressed by that and salute you. Best I can say is that I have a nice collection of vinyls (lol). Bought my first in '76 and still have all of 'em in great shape.

'76... We must be about the same age. 04-cheers

And I a bit older. Do either of you remember that they used to have listening booths in record stores where you could go to listen to a 45 before you plunked down your 39 cents? Heck, I even have some 78s and a record made in 1949 that is very heavy and solid.

Last year, I remember googling on my tablet about 45... The USA won a war that year. It must have been because of the listening booths they were using against the axis.
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(07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
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(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.

IMO, there is only one criteria for best homefield advantage:

"Marshall has a 140-25 overall record at Joan C. Edwards stadium for a winning percentage of .848, which is the second highest home winning percentage of any FBS team at its current home venue. Baylor University tops the list at 4-0 (1.000) in their first year at McLane Stadium."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_C._Edwards_Stadium
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(07-07-2015 01:15 AM)MUther Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.

IMO, there is only one criteria for best homefield advantage:

"Marshall has a 140-25 overall record at Joan C. Edwards stadium for a winning percentage of .848, which is the second highest home winning percentage of any FBS team at its current home venue. Baylor University tops the list at 4-0 (1.000) in their first year at McLane Stadium."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_C._Edwards_Stadium

Definitely impressive. But I disagree with using that as the only measure for a couple of reasons...

1) Sometimes we also have to consider the difference between a team's away record and their home record, like if two teams have similar home records but their away records vary by quite a bit. For example, if Team A has a record of 15-5 at home, but is 10-10 in road games, that's a 25% improvement when they play at home. If Team B has a slightly better record of 16-4 at home, but are also 15-5 on the road, that's only a 5% improvement at home, which likely means that home field doesn't play as big a role for them (since there's little difference between their home and away). Note that Team B has the better record at home, but there's really no big difference between how they perform at home versus how they do away from home.

2) There may be a scenario where the home games are against easier opponents than the away games. This is especially true for P5s for example, many of whom schedule weaker opponents in OOC games, and they're usually played at home. That skews the data.

Not discounting that Marshall has a great home field advantage because I'm sure you guys do. I'm just saying that the home record alone isn't necessarily the only measure. Unless I'm mistaken though, I do believe that with you guys, there's a big difference between how you do at home versus away, at least in recent years.
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RE: Rank the Stadiums for 2015
(07-07-2015 05:36 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 01:15 AM)MUther Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.

IMO, there is only one criteria for best homefield advantage:

"Marshall has a 140-25 overall record at Joan C. Edwards stadium for a winning percentage of .848, which is the second highest home winning percentage of any FBS team at its current home venue. Baylor University tops the list at 4-0 (1.000) in their first year at McLane Stadium."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_C._Edwards_Stadium

Definitely impressive. But I disagree with using that as the only measure for a couple of reasons...

1) Sometimes we also have to consider the difference between a team's away record and their home record, like if two teams have similar home records but their away records vary by quite a bit. For example, if Team A has a record of 15-5 at home, but is 10-10 in road games, that's a 25% improvement when they play at home. If Team B has a slightly better record of 16-4 at home, but are also 15-5 on the road, that's only a 5% improvement at home, which likely means that home field doesn't play as big a role for them (since there's little difference between their home and away). Note that Team B has the better record at home, but there's really no big difference between how they perform at home versus how they do away from home.

2) There may be a scenario where the home games are against easier opponents than the away games. This is especially true for P5s for example, many of whom schedule weaker opponents in OOC games, and they're usually played at home. That skews the data.

Not discounting that Marshall has a great home field advantage because I'm sure you guys do. I'm just saying that the home record alone isn't necessarily the only measure. Unless I'm mistaken though, I do believe that with you guys, there's a big difference between how you do at home versus away, at least in recent years.

I agree. The topic is very subjective. It is hard to judge when everyone plays a different strength of schedule.
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