Volkmar
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RE: Rank the Stadiums for 2015
(07-07-2015 01:15 AM)MUther Wrote: (07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: (07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote: (07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.
http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage
I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.
Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.
It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.
If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.
Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554
I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.
As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.
Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.
IMO, there is only one criteria for best homefield advantage:
"Marshall has a 140-25 overall record at Joan C. Edwards stadium for a winning percentage of .848, which is the second highest home winning percentage of any FBS team at its current home venue. Baylor University tops the list at 4-0 (1.000) in their first year at McLane Stadium."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_C._Edwards_Stadium
Definitely impressive. But I disagree with using that as the only measure for a couple of reasons...
1) Sometimes we also have to consider the difference between a team's away record and their home record, like if two teams have similar home records but their away records vary by quite a bit. For example, if Team A has a record of 15-5 at home, but is 10-10 in road games, that's a 25% improvement when they play at home. If Team B has a slightly better record of 16-4 at home, but are also 15-5 on the road, that's only a 5% improvement at home, which likely means that home field doesn't play as big a role for them (since there's little difference between their home and away). Note that Team B has the better record at home, but there's really no big difference between how they perform at home versus how they do away from home.
2) There may be a scenario where the home games are against easier opponents than the away games. This is especially true for P5s for example, many of whom schedule weaker opponents in OOC games, and they're usually played at home. That skews the data.
Not discounting that Marshall has a great home field advantage because I'm sure you guys do. I'm just saying that the home record alone isn't necessarily the only measure. Unless I'm mistaken though, I do believe that with you guys, there's a big difference between how you do at home versus away, at least in recent years.
(This post was last modified: 07-07-2015 05:58 AM by Volkmar.)
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