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RE: Rank the Stadiums for 2015
(07-05-2015 01:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  The sunken amphitheater effect is very cool. Reminiscent of the biblical sport of feeding Christians to the lions.

Go Monarchs!

This design is used a lot but its not one that I like...just a personal choice. Troy is the one exception. I actually left a Ark St game damp and not from rain or sweat...

the cool night air rolled over the ground and falls on the fans that are sitting below ground level.

One thing I'm sure of is that once Charlotte adds a upper deck to the stadium it will fit in with the other buildings on campus. Charlotte and Western has very similar campuses when it comes to the style of new building being built. I don't foresee any exposed metal framing or huge concrete coming from this.
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(07-05-2015 12:14 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 12:03 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 11:52 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  WKUYG, you don't want to start comparing training facilities.

You do have a nice stadium, but it still only seats 22,113.

You keep bringing up the all time average attendance in our stadium. At least 5 of those seasons is when we were FCS. Something much more accurate would be the last few seasons. I've got some free time so I will look up the last 5 years average attendance for both of us.




Marshall


2010- 27,046

2011- 25,874

2012- 24,896

2013- 25,023

2014- 27,461


Total of 130,300/5 seasons= 26,060 average per season over the last 5 years.

26,060/38,277 (stadium seating capacity) gives us 68% capacity on average over the last 5 seasons.



WKU


2010- 14,577

2011- 16,637

2012- 16,637

2013- 18,334

2014- 16,306


Total of 82,491/5 seasons = 16,498 per season over the last 5 years.


16,498/22,113 (stadium seating capacity) gives you guys 74% capacity.





Here is my favorite part though. Our average attendance over the last 5 years is 117% percent of what your stadium seats.







Source for the numbers: http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statis...attendance

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RE: Rank the Stadiums for 2015
In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I'll also add Charlotte too.

1. (Rice) Rice Stadium- Historic... Hosted the Super Bowl
2. (UTEP) The Sun Bowl- One of the oldest bowl games
3. (North Texas) Apogee Stadium- Ranked the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football
4. (Marshall) Edwards Stadium- 38,000 seat on campus stadium
5. (Southern Miss) "The Rock"- 36,000 seat on campus stadium
6. (UTSA) Alamo Dome- Pro caliber stadium in a city with no pro team
7. (ODU) Foreman Field- Small, but I like it
8. (LA Tech) Joe Aillet Stadium- Doesn't look 46 years old.
9. (FAU) FAU Stadium- Nice and new, with palm trees
10. (Middle Tennessee) Floyd Stadium- recently rebuilt
11. (Charlotte) Richardson Stadium- Very small, but very nice looking.
11. (WKU) LT Smith Stadium- Small, but clean
12. (FIU) FIU Stadium- new, but not finished, or as nice as FAU's
13. (UAB) Legion Field- It's a place to play
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A few pics of "The Rich" that don't get posted as often:

The flag (Happy 4th everyone!):

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Entrance to the Strength & Conditioning center:

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Another view of the press box side with trees in background:

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Celebrating a TD:

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The stadium will have an exterior façade once expanded (BTW, I am certain it is being expanded. I believe the AD is just considering how much of the 40k to build). Here are some of the architects mock ups of the exterior where you can see the brick archways, and the new, expanded press box (this is something many niner fans haven't seen):

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And mockups of expansion:

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This one is too big (super high res) to post, but shows some of the academic buildings overlooking the stadium: http://ninertimes.com/wp-content/uploads...3872_o.jpg

Another high res photo of the flag & fieldhouse corner: http://ninertimes.com/wp-content/uploads...5de5_o.jpg
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(07-05-2015 12:56 PM)Timo99 Wrote:  [Image: Feature_UNCC_aerial-with-campus11.jpg]



Timo had a nice aerial shot of the flat concrete concourse that will serve as the foundation for future expansion - as shown in Artifice's post.. All the restrooms, concessions, etc. are set to accomodate the 2nd level.

Very similar to FIU, actually.

(07-05-2015 01:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  The sunken amphitheater effect is very cool. Reminiscent of the biblical sport of feeding Christians to the lions.

Go Monarchs!

Oh yeah. The Fightin' Christians of Elon were awfully nervous of our planned halftime spectacle. They refused to play us in our house for that very reason.
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The designs for Charlotte are similar to TXST, which has the best looking stadium I've seen in the SBC and CUSA I will get to checkout UNT, Rice this year and UTEP during basketball season.

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(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554
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(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility.

You forgot the CUSA Conference Championship we hosted, as well as a few bowl games.

And it's on-campus.

If events are the way to judge a stadium, I guess Legion Field will have to move up the ladder.

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(07-05-2015 06:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility.

Hard to compare a classic, like a 65 Mustang, to something newer, like a 2005 Honda.

Yeah, if that '65 Mustang is well kept and still looks it came out of the showroom (lol). Don't even try to make that analogy with Rice Stadium; major fixer upper to say the least. Alamodome any day!
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I love the way nearly every thread devolves into a "mines bigger" argument. I admire what Marshall has accomplished in the past 20+ years on the football field. The Herd's football fan base is arguably one of the best in the conference. Probably one of the best G5 fan bases there is. That said, no need to denigrate what WKU has done since our FBS move. After all, we emulated two programs during our transition: Marshall and Boise State. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, right? After a very slow start, we Hilltoppers have found some pretty solid footing , and have EARNED our way into FBS and CUSA.

As to The Joan, I have not been there yet, but after looking at pictures, it looks like a decent facility. Like most G5 schools, budget constraints keep almost all of us from having palaces. I will, however, defend LT Smith Stadium. Although small, it is a beautiful facility to see a football game. Don't judge it until you've been there. After a couple more successful seasons, fan interest will quite possibly create a demand for expansion. The redesign a few years ago allows for architectural expansion to 40,000 plus. I hope this becomes an issue. Up to now, it has not. Comparing recent attendance figures is not really comparing apples to apples due to where both Marshall and WKU are at in their respective programs.

I am confident that WKU will earn your respect on the field in the next few seasons. This year could well turn out to be special for us. Three things are different from last year: a more experienced head coach that has learned not to take his foot off the gas, a significantly improved defense, and an exciting new rivalry with Marshall. I look forward to seeing a lot of visiting green in November! Go Tops!
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No love lost between me and TSU-Sam Marcos, but they seem to have a really nice stadium. Never been there, but I like what I see. If they would only add additional seating on both sides of the open end, even with the back of the end zone. That would really balance it out.
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(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

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(07-05-2015 07:24 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 06:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility.

Hard to compare a classic, like a 65 Mustang, to something newer, like a 2005 Honda.

Yeah, if that '65 Mustang is well kept and still looks it came out of the showroom (lol). Don't even try to make that analogy with Rice Stadium; major fixer upper to say the least. Alamodome any day!

I rather own the 65 Mustang than rent the '05 Honda. But to each his own.
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(07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.

"But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special" - That would make sense if we were actually comparing it to other domed stadiums. We're comparing the Alamodome to other C-USA stadiums though. It's the only domed stadium in C-USA, is the most versatile by far, has arguably more history in a shorter span than any other, is well kept outside and in, and seats 65,000. Yet you inexplicably have it in the middle of the pack. (lol)

Yes, definitely different strokes for different folks. I can honestly understand some taking the Sun Bowl over the Alamodome because of its unique character and everything (though I've never been there and so haven't seen it in person up close), but I really don't see anything special about Rice Stadium at all from a fan's perspective, or even from a player's. I think most would rather watch or play a game at the Alamodome over a place like Rice, which for starters has restrooms that only a third-world country would be happy with. Unless I'm mistaken, the only renovations they've made to the stadium in over 60 years, even with all the money Rice has, has been an upgrade in the seats to aluminum bleachers (which any high school stadium has), new turf, and a new scoreboard. Wow.

If you're that into old and one-dimensional, I'm sure I can find a rotary phone for you somewhere.
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(07-06-2015 01:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 07:24 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 06:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility.

Hard to compare a classic, like a 65 Mustang, to something newer, like a 2005 Honda.

Yeah, if that '65 Mustang is well kept and still looks it came out of the showroom (lol). Don't even try to make that analogy with Rice Stadium; major fixer upper to say the least. Alamodome any day!

I rather own the 65 Mustang than rent the '05 Honda. But to each his own.

Sure, but too bad we're not talking about cars to begin with, although Jed Clampett probably has one you'd love too.
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(07-05-2015 01:34 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 01:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  The sunken amphitheater effect is very cool. Reminiscent of the biblical sport of feeding Christians to the lions.

Go Monarchs!

This design is used a lot but its not one that I like...just a personal choice. Troy is the one exception. I actually left a Ark St game damp and not from rain or sweat...

the cool night air rolled over the ground and falls on the fans that are sitting below ground level.

One thing I'm sure of is that once Charlotte adds a upper deck to the stadium it will fit in with the other buildings on campus. Charlotte and Western has very similar campuses when it comes to the style of new building being built. I don't foresee any exposed metal framing or huge concrete coming from this.

Yes they do, visited Charlotte a few years ago and their campus buildings are very similar to WKU's.....Not a very sleek modern look, but brick serves both campuses well as far as building's go.........

Many campuses cannot beat what WKU has as far as views...You walk up that hill and look down, its an amazing view....Campus looks so much better then when I was going to school in late 90's....
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(07-06-2015 03:36 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 10:13 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 02:06 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In light of Apogee recently being named the "#1 Home Field Advantage in College Football", I feel the stadium deserves to move up on the list.

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/conferenc...-advantage

I don't mean this as a slight to UNT's program or to their beautiful stadium, but that's the biggest load of Scheisse I've seen in a LONG time. UNT has the best home field advantage? SERIOUSLY?!? I'm equally alarmed that you'd actually take something like that seriously.

Btw, I think this whole thread is ridiculous because you can't make any sort of informed choice on which stadiums are best unless you've been to them all in person. And even though I also can't say I've been to all the stadiums in our conference, with regard to where you have the Alamodome, I feel I need to speak on behalf of San Antonio's domed stadium.

It's the most versatile stadium of any of them by far, by virtue of it being a dome. It has hosted a Bowl game for 22 years now, was the home to the San Antonio Spurs for many years, has hosted NFL games, hockey games, the US Olympic Festival, NCAA Basketball Final Fours (3 for the men and 2 for the women), an NCAA Volleyball Final Four, international soccer games, boxing events, three Big 12 Football Championship games, baseball games (Texas Rangers), Professional Bull Riders events, the Bands of America Super Regionals are held there every year in November, major concerts, and I could actually go on and on. And for many, the best part of all is that you're not baking in the heat, you're not sitting in the rain, nor in the cold. And while I get that for some, that's part of the whole experience, for many, they'd rather be indoors in 70 degrees.

If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility. And yes, it's nowhere near as nice a facility as the Alamodome either. The Alamodome is gonna get even nicer also, due to all the renovations they're doing over the next couple years, and is a walk away from the Riverwalk for more after-event entertainment. When you take the sum of all those things, there's no way it should be anywhere aside from AT LEAST the top three, certainly not 6th, and certainly not behind Apogee, though you guys do have a nice facility and I enjoyed very much going up there for our game a couple years ago, despite freezing my ass off in the weather.

Renovations in store...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-estate/...to-8243554

I never said it made sense to name Apogee the #1 Home Field Advantage in College Football, but when you are awarded something you can use to market your product you don't say "No thanks". We didn't set the criteria.

As for the Alamodome... It is an indoor football stadium in Texas, and that makes it nice. But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special. I can't place it above Rice Stadium or the Sun Bowl. I have not been to all the stadiums in C-USA, but I have been to all of the Texas stadiums. Rice Stadium is an older venue, but she has held up well over the seasons. Aside from the horrible heat of an 11a.m. kickoff in Houston, I loved the stadium. And don't forget, the Bluebonnet Bowl started at Rice Stadium. I'm sure more renovations are coming for the Alamodome, but Rice is also in the process of updating their stadium too.

Everyone gets an opinion. No opinion is a fact. It is all a matter of preference.

"But, as far as domed stadiums go, it isn't anything special" - That would make sense if we were actually comparing it to other domed stadiums. We're comparing the Alamodome to other C-USA stadiums though. It's the only domed stadium in C-USA, is the most versatile by far, has arguably more history in a shorter span than any other, is well kept outside and in, and seats 65,000. Yet you inexplicably have it in the middle of the pack. (lol)

Yes, definitely different strokes for different folks. I can honestly understand some taking the Sun Bowl over the Alamodome because of its unique character and everything (though I've never been there and so haven't seen it in person up close), but I really don't see anything special about Rice Stadium at all from a fan's perspective, or even from a player's. I think most would rather watch or play a game at the Alamodome over a place like Rice, which for starters has restrooms that only a third-world country would be happy with. Unless I'm mistaken, the only renovations they've made to the stadium in over 60 years, even with all the money Rice has, has been an upgrade in the seats to aluminum bleachers (which any high school stadium has), new turf, and a new scoreboard. Wow.

If you're that into old and one-dimensional, I'm sure I can find a rotary phone for you somewhere.

Hey, I'm glad you are happy with the Alamodome. It isn't a bad complex. But, I really don't care how versatile it is. I only care how well it serves as a college football venue. To me, it just doesn't have a great college football vibe. I think Rice and the stadiums I ranked ahead of it do.

As for my inclination for older things... I already have a very nice rotary phone from the 1940's. I also wear a 50 year old Wyler watch. I have a 1965 Ford Fairlane, and a fine collection of pre-WWII 78 rpm records. I'm particularly fond of Al Bowlly and Gene Austin records. I also spend a good deal of time on commissions to sculpt historic people, of which most have been dead for quite some time. And yes, I do prefer older stadiums with great college football history, if they have been well maintained.

I know Apogee isn't old and doesn't have a storied college football history, but it is a great venue in C-USA for college football. And although the metric by which it was selected to be the top home field advantage in college football is certainly questionable, to my knowledge, it is the only stadium in C-USA that has ever received an honor of this kind. So we'll take it, because that is how college football stadiums become historic like Rice stadium and the Sun Bowl.

Again, these are just my opinions.
07-06-2015 09:28 AM
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(07-06-2015 03:40 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-05-2015 07:24 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
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(07-05-2015 04:57 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  If you wanna talk history, yes, Rice hosted one Superbowl, Kennedy spoke there once, and the Oilers played there for 3 years in the 60's. Aside from that and the Owls and Cougars playing there, it's just an old, dilapidated structure that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the events the Alamodome has hosted in a much shorter span of time because of its versatility.

Hard to compare a classic, like a 65 Mustang, to something newer, like a 2005 Honda.

Yeah, if that '65 Mustang is well kept and still looks it came out of the showroom (lol). Don't even try to make that analogy with Rice Stadium; major fixer upper to say the least. Alamodome any day!

I rather own the 65 Mustang than rent the '05 Honda. But to each his own.

Sure, but too bad we're not talking about cars to begin with, although Jed Clampett probably has one you'd love too.

That would be a great one to restore. Of course, if I just needed to borrow it six times a year to go to the store, I would opt for the one with AC.

But you're obviously missing the point, probably willfully, so I guess we're done.

Enjoyed the exchange of opinions.
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RE: Rank the Stadiums for 2015
I don't think our stadium is anything special to look at. I do think our open air suites are something that most other fans envy. I guess of all the stadiums I have visited the look to them from the outside hasn't mattered much. The thing that I care about is atmosphere. Sounds and smells. Food and beverage choices, music and jumbotron goes further with me than brick vs metal. Unfortunately we lack in that area as well. If I could get us to do anything it would be step up our food game. We should have things the area is known for. We should have Hot Chicken. We should have Jack Daniels Barbecue. Our boring food is my biggest complaint. It's like a high school game.
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I enjoyed the Alamodome only because when we went it was hot outside and it wasn't inside. The concourse where the food is sold is very nice too along with its restrooms. But the stadium itself is very dark, and depressing. The rafters (?) make it look too industrial and don't let me start on the PA system. I've been to many stadiums and Alamodome takes the cake with its lousy PA system and acoustics. We couldn't even hear the band playing the Star Spangled Banner, it's that bad.

You guys need better lighting, better acoustics and definitely a better Public Address System. I wouldn't rate it very high either as it's nothing to brag about except for that wonderful air conditioning. After September our natural air-conditioning at the Sun Bowl is just as nice.

You should visit the SB in October, you'll be impressed with the atmosphere. Fortunately, in September all our games are at night in 75 degree weather with a slight breeze. You'll get a cold game maybe one day during football season which ain't bad.
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