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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
HE claimed it couldn't be addressed while giving an example of how it could be. Addressing the wrong person bubba.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
The alternative to voter ID is to just let people walk in off the street and vote.

That would be ridiculous.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
Back to the Headline of the Thread. The Real and Only reason for Voter ID is to prevent People from Voting More than 1 time or Voter fraud. If You can't prove You are Whom You say You are, You can't vote. I'm sure there is a way to handle Folks that don't have a drivers license and can be verified with other methods but there Have been Many past cases where folks that were dead, in prison, under 18, fictional Characters voting multiple times when They shouldn't have. Chicago 1960 was a famous for scores of Dead people having votes cast in Their name and it changed the election outcome. Some say Florida in 2000 had issues. We need a Standard set of Rules for the entire Country. Change the way some states allow same day registration and Voting. Change the Way some states allow Crossover voting in primaries. Not a good plan. But these same folks that argue about having an ID is wrong. They now have a Year and a Half to get ready and get an ID for the 2016 election.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
Voter ID is here to stay.

76% is a huge majority.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
millions of disenfranchised voters!!! all these people can't vote!!!!!!

too bad only half of the country votes for our president anyway.

Maybe both parties should make a concerted effort to get more, actual people into the booths instead. Sure, there will be some people like the first guy in the OP video that is having a tough time, and he should be helped out, but to act as if this is going to keep millions upon millions from voting is insane, seeing as how half those people aren't voting anyway.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Glad to see this lady helping people obtain the proper ID. Any problems with voter ID are addressable.

Addressable? Did you see the video? The guy has been voting since 1964 and now can't vote becuase the state of texas lost his name change certificate.

How do you address that when the State can't find his documents but still won't let him vote?

The other guy can't vote because they misspelled his name on his birth certificate. Again through no fault of his own. The state will not let him vote unless he legally changes his name to the mispelled name that the state gave him.

Addressable?

Are you high?

So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

They respond that way because they really don't want these people to vote. They know that they have lost the discussion on the issues. They're only recourse now is to begin disenfranchising people.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-04-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 09:53 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So, I watched the whole video. What's the real reason? They never discussed it.

The answer was in the first 10 seconds. To disenfranchise 1 million voters.

10 seconds? Mmm-hmm. Disenfranchise? Mmm-hmm.


Congratulations, you're sticking to the script! 04-clap2
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 09:52 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 09:53 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So, I watched the whole video. What's the real reason? They never discussed it.

The answer was in the first 10 seconds. To disenfranchise 1 million voters.

10 seconds? Mmm-hmm. Disenfranchise? Mmm-hmm.


Congratulations, you're sticking to the script! 04-clap2

Keep ignoring the facts.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Glad to see this lady helping people obtain the proper ID. Any problems with voter ID are addressable.

Addressable? Did you see the video? The guy has been voting since 1964 and now can't vote becuase the state of texas lost his name change certificate.

How do you address that when the State can't find his documents but still won't let him vote?

The other guy can't vote because they misspelled his name on his birth certificate. Again through no fault of his own. The state will not let him vote unless he legally changes his name to the mispelled name that the state gave him.

Addressable?

Are you high?

So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

You're the "expert" why don't you enlighten those of us you find beneath you.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 09:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 09:52 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 09:53 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So, I watched the whole video. What's the real reason? They never discussed it.

The answer was in the first 10 seconds. To disenfranchise 1 million voters.

10 seconds? Mmm-hmm. Disenfranchise? Mmm-hmm.


Congratulations, you're sticking to the script! 04-clap2

Keep ignoring the facts.

Facts? Mmm-hmm.

Boy, you're really sticking to that script! Congrats. 04-clap2
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 09:52 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 09:53 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So, I watched the whole video. What's the real reason? They never discussed it.

The answer was in the first 10 seconds. To disenfranchise 1 million voters.

10 seconds? Mmm-hmm. Disenfranchise? Mmm-hmm.


Congratulations, you're sticking to the script! 04-clap2


yup

Predictable, dishonest and plain sad.

Their politics are strait out of the gutter.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
Most people would agree that we have the government we have because not enough informed people vote in elections.

I find it fasinating however that we are in fact making it more and more difficult for people to vote.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 09:56 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Glad to see this lady helping people obtain the proper ID. Any problems with voter ID are addressable.

Addressable? Did you see the video? The guy has been voting since 1964 and now can't vote becuase the state of texas lost his name change certificate.

How do you address that when the State can't find his documents but still won't let him vote?

The other guy can't vote because they misspelled his name on his birth certificate. Again through no fault of his own. The state will not let him vote unless he legally changes his name to the mispelled name that the state gave him.

Addressable?

Are you high?

So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

You're the "expert" why don't you enlighten those of us you find beneath you.

"Arduous legal process to change his name"
03-lmfao It's no different than when my wife changed her last name. That
took all of one day filling out some paperwork.

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(06-05-2015 10:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Most people would agree that we have the government we have because not enough informed people vote in elections.

I find it fasinating however that we are in fact making it more and more difficult for people to vote.


No one is buying that far left whiny crap.

Its not difficult to vote and the last few elections have already had millions under voter ID laws, yet we had record numbers of Americans voting, including record numbers of minorities.

Most adult Americans already know you have to show ID for almost everything important in this country, voting should be no different.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 10:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Most people would agree that we have the government we have because not enough informed people vote in elections.

I find it fasinating however that we are in fact making it more and more difficult for people to vote.


No one is buying that far left whiny crap.

Its not difficult to vote and the last few elections have already had millions under voter ID laws, yet we had record numbers of Americans voting, including record numbers of minorities.

Most adult Americans already know you have to show ID for almost everything important in this country, voting should be no different.

So then would object to "Universal Automatic Voter Registration?"
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 10:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 10:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 10:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Most people would agree that we have the government we have because not enough informed people vote in elections.

I find it fasinating however that we are in fact making it more and more difficult for people to vote.


No one is buying that far left whiny crap.

Its not difficult to vote and the last few elections have already had millions under voter ID laws, yet we had record numbers of Americans voting, including record numbers of minorities.

Most adult Americans already know you have to show ID for almost everything important in this country, voting should be no different.

So then would object to "Universal Automatic Voter Registration?"


Mostly because it a fake issue and a complete waste of time.

We have REAL issues and problems in the nation that we need to deal with. Not this pointless garbage that is just a campaign tool to create more fake wedge issues.

Furthermore MILLIONS of Americans do NOT want to be registered voters.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 09:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Glad to see this lady helping people obtain the proper ID. Any problems with voter ID are addressable.

Addressable? Did you see the video? The guy has been voting since 1964 and now can't vote becuase the state of texas lost his name change certificate.

How do you address that when the State can't find his documents but still won't let him vote?

The other guy can't vote because they misspelled his name on his birth certificate. Again through no fault of his own. The state will not let him vote unless he legally changes his name to the mispelled name that the state gave him.

Addressable?

Are you high?

So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

They respond that way because they really don't want these people to vote. They know that they have lost the discussion on the issues. They're only recourse now is to begin disenfranchising people.

Wow.

The government misspells your name on your birth certificate, and because of that they don't want you to vote?

...you are a crazy person.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 10:11 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 09:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 11:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Addressable? Did you see the video? The guy has been voting since 1964 and now can't vote becuase the state of texas lost his name change certificate.

How do you address that when the State can't find his documents but still won't let him vote?

The other guy can't vote because they misspelled his name on his birth certificate. Again through no fault of his own. The state will not let him vote unless he legally changes his name to the mispelled name that the state gave him.

Addressable?

Are you high?

So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

They respond that way because they really don't want these people to vote. They know that they have lost the discussion on the issues. They're only recourse now is to begin disenfranchising people.

Wow.

The government misspells your name on your birth certificate, and because of that they don't want you to vote?

...you are a crazy person.

No. What is crazy is not allowing someone to vote because someone misspelled your name.

Welcome to Texas.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 10:11 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 09:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(06-04-2015 07:14 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you do understand that it could be addressed.

What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

They respond that way because they really don't want these people to vote. They know that they have lost the discussion on the issues. They're only recourse now is to begin disenfranchising people.

Wow.

The government misspells your name on your birth certificate, and because of that they don't want you to vote?

...you are a crazy person.

No. What is crazy is not allowing someone to vote because someone misspelled your name.

Welcome to Texas.

he could legally change his name. bam. problem solved.
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RE: The real reason for Voter ID
(06-05-2015 11:07 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 10:11 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 09:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(06-05-2015 06:53 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  What a stupid response that surprised absolutely no one, given the source. Hey, everything is hunky dory, all this guy has to do is go through an arduous legal process to change his name to match a misspelling on his birth certificate. What's the problem?

They respond that way because they really don't want these people to vote. They know that they have lost the discussion on the issues. They're only recourse now is to begin disenfranchising people.

Wow.

The government misspells your name on your birth certificate, and because of that they don't want you to vote?

...you are a crazy person.

No. What is crazy is not allowing someone to vote because someone misspelled your name.

Welcome to Texas.

he could legally change his name. bam. problem solved.

How would you like it if someone told you that you had to legally change your name to a misspelled version of your name in order to vote?
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