(05-27-2015 05:02 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  A generation of left-leaning metrosexuals would not have won WW II.

And those fighting WWII would have been seen as left-leaning metrosexuals, or the societal equivalent, by the fear mongering and scared conservatives at the time. This is nothing new or surprising.

(05-27-2015 05:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 03:30 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  does it matter if your girlfriend/wife likes watching porn with you while you do it?

that's cool. Just dont make a facebook post saying "Enjoying the day watching Porn Freaks with my wife. This evening should be really interesting."

Haha

102 posts on a thread started this morning. Porn and video games.

Figures.

Just for a little fun here.

(05-27-2015 08:28 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  So many kids these days are not taught how to be men. They might be smart and moral around a good mother (which is hard to find sometimes), but they aren't always men.

Boys can't be boys anymore. This causes a lot of them to disconnect and take on addictive behaviors (usually it's not even drugs, folks). Allow boys to be boys and stop attacking masculinity - then you'll see some healthy lifestyle changes take place.

And so many want to hang around the so-called cool kids and cool people. I know at 18 I both didn't know what I wanted to do in life, at least as far as being a productive citizen. And the one thing I found that I excelled at unfortunately has seen better days as an industry (it's very much dying). Most of us grow up in front of the TV and want to be sports stars or entertainers when there is a short list of people that can be that. On top of that, there's the chase for the pretty women and their lavish lifestyle, so the goal is to make as much money as possible to try and pull one and keep one (only to lose it all to them in divorce anyways, LOL).

(05-27-2015 08:37 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  This what happened to the Japanese. Between the excessive drug, alcohol, video game and porn use, this country will be **** in 30 years.

Communicating like that, are you Japanese by the way?

(05-27-2015 09:02 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 09:01 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It blows my mind how many "grown men" want to spend their spare time playing video games. I haven't played one at all in years.

difference in playing some games every now and then, and playing non stop.

I used to play 24-7 back in my college days.

(05-27-2015 09:34 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 09:16 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 09:01 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It blows my mind how many "grown men" want to spend their spare time playing video games. I haven't played one at all in years.

To each their own. Playing video games is a lot more harmless to society than many other pastimes.

Sure it is but that doesn't make one a responsible adult either. I'd much rather go for a hike, a walk, go to the park, bike ride with my wife or play with my son.

Heck, it could mean just going outside and playing basketball or going to Dave and Busters (or the equivalent where you are) and bowling or shooting pool.

(05-27-2015 11:04 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Video games and porn are not the driving factors to why we will follow Japan.

Crushing college debt will delay my generation from starting families, and likely discourage them from having children all together.

(05-27-2015 11:13 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Not directed at you necessarily but they Should have...

1. Majored in something practically useful (ie, NOT liberal arts)
2. Attended a public U instead of private
3. Gone to a vocational school instead and learned a trade

The answer could be any of the above.

Bingo. Crushing college debt is gonna be huge going forward. As for what they should have done, well, hindsight is 20/20. All I heard growing up was get a college degree and it will open doors for you, those who go to college make more than those who don't, it's a great experience, etc... Now things are caught in a Catch-22 where virtually the only way to be successful is by going to college and even internships require you to be working on something for college credit. What the ****? Now you have to be taking classes just to try to get certified and trained to be in certain fields? I can't just go to some places at 18 and tell them I wanna learn something.

(05-27-2015 11:16 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's easy to say, but it goes against the prevailing wisdom taught to my generation since birth.

Go to college! -- If you don't go to college you will be a loser.
Get a degree in something you love! -- You won't be good at it if you don't love it.
Profit! -- Debt!

Also, college didn't cost what it does now back when our parents and teachers sold us that bull****.

The debt problem my generation faces is the single greatest threat to economic prosperity this country faces. The generation of greed our parents are from have the dubious place in history of being the only American generation to have taken something good and made it worse for their children.

Beat me to it.

It all boils down to choices. Accumulating debt is a choice. Being man's man is a choice just as much as being a limp wristed metrosexual that cannot pour piss out of a boot.

Accumulating debt may be a choice but so many jobs require a college degree that it's become more or less essential to have one and not everyone can take a free ride and thus must take out loans for increasingly multiple degrees. It's a Catch-22 as I said.

And college has become essential because that's what we were preached at about from the cradle through high school, at least if you were born in the 80's like I was. So naturally, everyone gravitated and planned toward going to college and it's flooded the marketplace with college degrees, which in many cases is an eliminator used to widdle down piles of resumes.

And of course those who are stubborn, behind the times or for some seemingly legit reason (I don't say that to demean) still preach a message of going to college at all cost, continue the pattern and cycle for others to follow.

The problem here is addiction, not some nebulous concept of "masculinity". If there's no addiction, who really gives a crap what people do in their spare time as long as they aren't hurting anyone? I don't.

The idea that video games are childish because children play them is dumb. Kids like sports, movies, and music too but no one calls that stuff childish. I don't know why it doesn't process with people that video games can't also be an activity that spans age groups.

Same basic principle with porn. If there's no addiction involved to the point of it hurting you professionally, who cares? If you need sexual stimulation, it's much easier and cheaper to get it online than trying to navigate the maze that is at the path of the libido of a woman. Want to know why gay men have more hookups and anonymous/casual sexual relations? Because women are the gatekeepers of straight hookups and aren't involved in gay relationships.

It's also cheaper in other ways, such as lack of procreation. There's nothing like the real thing I suppose but society would be much better off with fewer babies brought into the world that were unplanned.

And porn can actually reduce the incidence of rape, or so some claim. Without nudity readily available, I'd imagine there would be more pressure, directly, indirectly or by brute force for young ladies to give up or show their goods to raging hormone men (or women if they're into that kind of thing I guess).