(04-21-2015 01:11 PM)BE4neva Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 09:42 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 09:18 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 08:43 PM)BE4neva Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 08:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  None of that matters. What matters is that the Acc got a deal with those networks right after SU joined. You can rationalize as much as you want, but that doesnt change the fact that it happened. Nobodys pumping any chests. Just showing you how you are wrong about SU. You know when a Uconn fan tells you you are wrong in your negativity about Cuse, that you are TRULY WRONG!

I don't think you understand how TV works. The ACC did a deal with WTAE which is a Pitt TV channel once they moved to the ACC also. The ACC was simply getting games on locally. Otherwise, besides national ESPN games Pitt would not have been on TV. Same thing. This isn't hard. But I get that you don't understand. The only Cuse grads that understand TV imediately go to Work for ESPN so that they can rig the industry to keep Cuse and it's never grown to levels it should have fan base.

Look, Your a Providence fan. I can understand why you hate/envy SU.
But this is what you said:

"Wake, BC, Cuse are never going to help the league with a network or a playoff invite."


As far as tv goes, I once had a Time Warner advertising rep tell me that when SU games are on it gets the highest ratings on tv during that time slot from Albany to Buffalo. Granted that was about 10 years ago, but I dont think much has changed. Regarding MSG and YES, it is what it is.

Many SU regional games that were on Time Warner Sports and SNY, when SU was in the BE are now shared between YES and MSG. The ACC doesnt have a deal with Time Warner or SNY. But they sure were able to quickly get a deal with MSG and YES, so that SU fans could still see their team play. This was no coincidence. MSG and YES didnt just suddenly need programming and decided to go with the ACC. This is an actual deal to show Acc games every week. Not every once in a while like some other teams.

I and others have given you reasons as to why you were wrong. Its ok to admit that you didnt know that SU was such a large private school. Its OK. Just admit you were dead wrong and move on. Now Im done with you and your hate for the Cuse.

Why didn't you ask him why their biggest game of the year featured a team in Orange (or Platinum or whatever...lol)...Cuse fans would invade the Dunk to give Providence their only sellout of the year.

No one is saying Cuse isn't a great bball program. Don't get side tracked in this convo by trying to distract about what we are talking about.

Earlier in the thread you threw out numbers about x number of games times 30k and 7 games for football with 40k. That's nice, but a high percentage of that is repeat.

Both of you refuse to acknowledge the facts which are simple. Schools like Pitt, Cuse, Wake etc are small city schools in the grand scheme of things. The fanbases are not large enough, neither are the brands or reach. Many schools have great history in sports. Cuse football is surely a long time name. But years ago the NIT was something important and football and all college sports were different. Get with the times.

A TV network needs not only a market but a base that will tune in. Update NY has a big population. Great. Will they tune in for SUNY buffalo vs ACC schools? I doubt it. There's no base. The buffalo fans that do exist will be at the game right?

Congrats on getting onto MSG. Providence, Oregon St and Baylor also did the same year they were seeking active live content and leagues sold and signed contracts.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2..._care.html

So does that population care or not? You were playing Pitt. Not a G5 or FCS. Pitt.

I can't wait to see this ACCNetwork. I imagine it will be some online coach shows and a couple logo graphics that get slapped on local TV channels who buy the content and not much more than that. No TV channel, or big pay day. At least the mythical unicorn creature has toy companies who produce stuff animals of what it might look like. The ACCNetwork won't get that far. Stop lying to yourself.

So says the guy who spins impending blockbuster conference moves based on the obscure unsourced comments from individual posters on fan websites. :)

IMO, you are not accurately describing how these networks have been constructed to date. The BiG network is on basic cable in both the MD and NY/NJ markets. Do you think it is because RU and UMD have some sort of dominant position in the market? No. They both are behind the pros sports in their respective regions. What they DO provide, however, is enough of a baseline presence to get on basic cable, which, as some reports predict, will produce "BiG" revenues for the BiG!

This is the same thing that will happen with the ACCN, in my opinion. The ACC sits in the largest region, population wise, of all of the conferences. I would expect BC, for example, to be covered on basic cable in the Boston market (heck, they are already covered on NESN), and so on for the other schools and regions.

From what we understand based on some of the reporting to date, setting up an ACCN is a bit trickier than the others so far in that a media contract already exists and there is the relationship with Raycom which has to sorted out to. Assuming these things get worked out, I think there is great potential for an ACCN. (The one important caveat, IMO, are the technological and market evolutions mentioned in my other thread which, IMO, could potentially impact the entire conference landscape.)

(04-21-2015 09:41 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 09:36 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 09:04 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  With the B1G, PAC, ACC and SEC all having championship games you pretty much already have an 8-10 team playoff in place with a weak conference champ running the risk of getting bumped for a strong at-large.

If there was some consolidation to a G4/P4 and then creating a 8 CFP bowl system

B1G (Rose)
PAC (Rose)
ACC (Orange)
SEC (Orange)

MWC (Fiesta)
AAC (Citrus)
CUSA (Sugar)
MAC (Peach)

Cotton/Holiday at-larges

If there was a Top 4 team/best 4 playoff and every conference had a contract with one of the major bowls that would help from a fairness perspective with the G4 champ getting a crack at the P4 #2/#3 school with its champ.

G5 won't get anywhere near the above. Most they could hope for would be a shared guarantee in 8 team play off. and that is not very likely.

Shaking head yes...the best the G5 would get is one slot in an 8 team playoff.

Which is plenty.

And how exactly is that plenty? I am sorry but you are essentially lumping one entire half of cfb in one conf and giving them access to one bid. I am sorry but all of this is bs.

Lol... They had their chance to leave. Actually had 2 chances to join a better football league if you count Bowden being scared of the SEC.