"It's, I can't think of a more terrible burden to leave the next president than what Obama is creating here." ~ Richard B. Cheney



I can't think. Yep...pretty much sums it up.

He's right you know.

I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

(04-08-2015 11:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

Comparing them is like choosing between your favorite type of cancer.

My comment was directed at Cheney. I hold him and Rumsfield directly responsible for the Iraq debacle. They were Shrubs most trusted advisors.

If Obama's mess ends up with Iran achieving nukes...it would be worse. We will see.

(04-08-2015 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  "It's, I can't think of a more terrible burden to leave the next president than what Obama is creating here." ~ Richard B. Cheney



I can't think. Yep...pretty much sums it up.

This from the same administration that nearly brought us to another Great Depression.

(04-08-2015 11:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  "It's, I can't think of a more terrible burden to leave the next president than what Obama is creating here." ~ Richard B. Cheney



I can't think. Yep...pretty much sums it up.

This from the same administration that nearly brought us to another Great Depression.

As long as you are ready to be consistent in assessing blame to an administration when things happen under their tenure regardless of the past underlying causes? Sure.

(04-08-2015 11:43 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  "It's, I can't think of a more terrible burden to leave the next president than what Obama is creating here." ~ Richard B. Cheney



I can't think. Yep...pretty much sums it up.

This from the same administration that nearly brought us to another Great Depression.

As long as you are ready to be consistent in assessing blame to an administration when things happen under their tenure regardless of the past underlying causes? Sure.

As opposed to say blaming 9/11 on Clinton?

(04-08-2015 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

Comparing them is like choosing between your favorite type of cancer.

My comment was directed at Cheney. I hold him and Rumsfield directly responsible for the Iraq debacle. They were Shrubs most trusted advisors.

If Obama's mess ends up with Iran achieving nukes...it would be worse. We will see.

So...if Iran achieves Nukes, they'll in short order bomb Israel...or if they get long range capabilities bomb us, both virtually assuring their own destruction? You honestly think this is a plausible scenario? Russia, Pakistan, India, North Korea, China and Israel all have them now.

This current deal framework, that also involves Britain, France, China, Russia and Germany, at worst will delay things for several years.

Wow...what a horrible burden.

this could possibly be the most useless 'news' thread (op-ed) I've ever clicked on....

dick is easily a self absorbed pr!ck by any measurable....

he only made a shiteload off the bush admin....

that's the penance for being a vp that has balls....

he knew his role and used it wisely if making money matters....

...notice how he never had an inclination to run for office....

probably the most savvy vp since ford (even though they are polar opposites)

(04-08-2015 11:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

Comparing them is like choosing between your favorite type of cancer.

My comment was directed at Cheney. I hold him and Rumsfield directly responsible for the Iraq debacle. They were Shrubs most trusted advisors.

If Obama's mess ends up with Iran achieving nukes...it would be worse. We will see.

Yes, Cheney is a Sith Lord. Other than that what is the relevance of the quote?

(04-08-2015 11:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

I do - and it's not really even close. Obama is without doubt, the worst president in my lifetime, and that includes Carter and Nixon.

Obama is the absolute king of leading from behind. If he were in the military during WWII as an officer, he would be one of those that met an untimely end at the hands of those he was supposed to be leading. They would have offed him.

(04-08-2015 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  "It's, I can't think of a more terrible burden to leave the next president than what Obama is creating here." ~ Richard B. Cheney



I can't think. Yep...pretty much sums it up.

Except the shitstorm Bush left us with in 2008.

(04-08-2015 12:42 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:31 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can think of one(maybe not as terrible)....and he was responsible for it.

I don't think you actually believe the Bush was better than Obama narrative.

I do - and it's not really even close. Obama is without doubt, the worst president in my lifetime, and that includes Carter and Nixon.

Obama is the absolute king of leading from behind. If he were in the military during WWII as an officer, he would be one of those that met an untimely end at the hands of those he was supposed to be leading. They would have offed him.

But don't you have to look at end results to make that comparison? And to paraphrase Dr. Zaius, "Don't look for it, Crebman! You may not...like, what you'll find."

Cheney, of all people, is the last one that can rip on Obama.

If we're going to blame Obama for Iran getting the bomb, we'll need to also blame the sitting presidents when North Korea, and China, and Pakistan and the Soviet Union got the bomb.

(04-08-2015 01:20 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Cheney, of all people, is the last one that can rip on Obama.

If we're going to blame Obama for Iran getting the bomb, we'll need to also blame the sitting presidents when North Korea, and China, and Pakistan and the Soviet Union got the bomb.

That's fine. I'm all for consistency.

You can tell the O admin isn't very popular when supporters start to bring up Bush and Cheney again.

I agree with him.