(03-30-2015 09:43 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  you just don't get it... vcu wasn't a great team this season and you played them at home, but obviously that is irrelevant.

We played them before they lost the best piece of their HAVOC chess game, that ought to count for something randaddy.

(03-30-2015 09:43 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  you just don't get it... vcu wasn't a great team this season and you played them at home, but obviously that is irrelevant.

2015 CUSA MEN'S BASKETBALL
Best Regular Season OOC (signature) Win: ODU over #14 VCU.
Best Post Season OOC (signature) Win: UAB over Iowa State in NCAA Tour.

Those are my choices for this season.
Since you think that you get it ... who are your two choices???

I guess I just don't get it. Beating a sweet sixteen vs beating a one and done.... but they were ranked 14th

In all honesty, talking about a teams accomplishments or lack thereof in a tournament is less impressive than the teams entire body of work during the season. Everyone knows VCU caught lightning in a bottle the year they made their run, same with Mason. Neither team was actually that good over the course of a season.

I think the UTEP win over Xavier and the ODU over VCU are actually equal. Does one really have to be better than the other?

(03-31-2015 07:53 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  I think the UTEP win over Xavier and the ODU over VCU are actually equal. Does one really have to be better than the other?

Are you kidding? This is war, and we have to win...

Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

(03-31-2015 09:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

Yeah, I think that was the marquee win of the season. Hands down.

(03-31-2015 09:46 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

Yeah, I think that was the marquee win of the season. Hands down.

right. I think all the others are fighting for 2nd.

(03-31-2015 09:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

But we were an embarrassment to the conference and stood no chance of winning that game. It clearly shouldn't count.

(03-31-2015 09:46 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

Yeah, I think that was the marquee win of the season. Hands down.

Without question.

It was also on a neutral floor and in the tournament.

(03-31-2015 09:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just for the record, Iowa St. was ranked #9 when UAB beat them.

I agree the win over #9 Iowa State is the top win this year in C-USA. Congrats to UAB for securing that victory for all of your conference mates. I hope that UAB is able to remain a conference member in the years ahead.

UAB and ODU will finish regular season with the top two seeds.

The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

(04-01-2015 12:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

The bolded part of your post is the issue. This isn't football so La Tech's OOC schedule success is not predicated on match ups against cartel schools.

ODU's non-con SOS was 41 (and only 1 cartel school LSU)
UTEP's non-con SOS was 37
La Tech's non-con SOS was 226

It's not the games against Temple, Syracuse or NC State that are the problem. But I absolutely believe that ANY CUSA school could sign home & home games with Colorado St., Buffalo, Davidson, Stephen F Austin, Boise St., Wofford, Valparaiso, Iona, Green Bay, Georgia St., Richmond, Yale, Murray St., Rhode Island, Illinois St., Wyoming, UC Davis, Eastern Washington, Central Michigan, Toledo, UMASS, Sam Houston St., Northeastern, High Point, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, Kent State, South Dakota St., William and Mary, La Salle & North Dakota St.
That's 32 teams in the RPI top 100 and I bet prior to the season at least half those teams were expected to be successful. And everyone of those teams would have benefited from playing La Tech this year win or lose.

(04-01-2015 01:13 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 12:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

The bolded part of your post is the issue. This isn't football so La Tech's OOC schedule success is not predicated on match ups against cartel schools.

ODU's non-con SOS was 41 (and only 1 cartel school LSU)
UTEP's non-con SOS was 37
La Tech's non-con SOS was 226

It's not the games against Temple, Syracuse or NC State that are the problem. But I absolutely believe that ANY CUSA school could sign home & home games with Colorado St., Buffalo, Davidson, Stephen F Austin, Boise St., Wofford, Valparaiso, Iona, Green Bay, Georgia St., Richmond, Yale, Murray St., Rhode Island, Illinois St., Wyoming, UC Davis, Eastern Washington, Central Michigan, Toledo, UMASS, Sam Houston St., Northeastern, High Point, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, Kent State, South Dakota St., William and Mary, La Salle & North Dakota St.
That's 32 teams in the RPI top 100 and I bet prior to the season at least half those teams were expected to be successful. And everyone of those teams would have benefited from playing La Tech this year win or lose.

Your belief is wrong according to the AD and Mike White. Considering have much we have won at home the last 3 years, those teams don't want to schedule a lost. And some of the schools are a crap shoot from year to year. Just like Southern and Northwestern State on Tech's schedule which were 23-10 and 23-9 in 2013 both NCAA tournament teams but under perform this year

Remember we didn't go 5-25 and 18-18 the last couple years but 27-7 and 29-8

(04-01-2015 01:28 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:13 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 12:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

The bolded part of your post is the issue. This isn't football so La Tech's OOC schedule success is not predicated on match ups against cartel schools.

ODU's non-con SOS was 41 (and only 1 cartel school LSU)
UTEP's non-con SOS was 37
La Tech's non-con SOS was 226

It's not the games against Temple, Syracuse or NC State that are the problem. But I absolutely believe that ANY CUSA school could sign home & home games with Colorado St., Buffalo, Davidson, Stephen F Austin, Boise St., Wofford, Valparaiso, Iona, Green Bay, Georgia St., Richmond, Yale, Murray St., Rhode Island, Illinois St., Wyoming, UC Davis, Eastern Washington, Central Michigan, Toledo, UMASS, Sam Houston St., Northeastern, High Point, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, Kent State, South Dakota St., William and Mary, La Salle & North Dakota St.
That's 32 teams in the RPI top 100 and I bet prior to the season at least half those teams were expected to be successful. And everyone of those teams would have benefited from playing La Tech this year win or lose.

Your belief is wrong according to the AD and Mike White. Considering have much we have won at home the last 3 years, those teams don't want to schedule a lost.

Remember we didn't go 5-25 and 18-18 the last couple years but 27-7 and 29-8

Exactly the reason you should have had no trouble scheduling quality opponents. La Tech has been good recently and was expected to be good again. You should demand better from your AD and Coach. Anything else is a total cop out. I said the exact same thing to USM fans last year.
You really believe a MAC team wouldn't have agreed to a home and home? Seriously look at that list. You think High Point wouldn't have returned your call?

(04-01-2015 01:37 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:28 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:13 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 12:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

The bolded part of your post is the issue. This isn't football so La Tech's OOC schedule success is not predicated on match ups against cartel schools.

ODU's non-con SOS was 41 (and only 1 cartel school LSU)
UTEP's non-con SOS was 37
La Tech's non-con SOS was 226

It's not the games against Temple, Syracuse or NC State that are the problem. But I absolutely believe that ANY CUSA school could sign home & home games with Colorado St., Buffalo, Davidson, Stephen F Austin, Boise St., Wofford, Valparaiso, Iona, Green Bay, Georgia St., Richmond, Yale, Murray St., Rhode Island, Illinois St., Wyoming, UC Davis, Eastern Washington, Central Michigan, Toledo, UMASS, Sam Houston St., Northeastern, High Point, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, Kent State, South Dakota St., William and Mary, La Salle & North Dakota St.
That's 32 teams in the RPI top 100 and I bet prior to the season at least half those teams were expected to be successful. And everyone of those teams would have benefited from playing La Tech this year win or lose.

Your belief is wrong according to the AD and Mike White. Considering have much we have won at home the last 3 years, those teams don't want to schedule a lost.

Remember we didn't go 5-25 and 18-18 the last couple years but 27-7 and 29-8

Exactly the reason you should have had no trouble scheduling quality opponents. La Tech has been good recently and was expected to be good again. You should demand better from your AD and Coach. Anything else is a total cop out. I said the exact same thing to USM fans last year.
You really believe a MAC team wouldn't have agreed to a home and home? Seriously look at that list. You think High Point wouldn't have returned your call?

Yes because they said they called literally everyone. Why would they lie and not try schedule strong especially at home where Tech would win. That's a side effect of being a consistent winner.

(04-01-2015 01:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:37 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:28 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 01:13 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  

(04-01-2015 12:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The original statement and response got lost in this thread, which was ODU fan stating UTEP and Tech need to schedule stronger and win OOC even if that means playing on the road

RandyDaddy response was UTEP did have a strong OOC Schedule and a win over Xavier, My response Tech has scheduled tough opponents on the road and beat Oklahoma in Norman last year. Signature scheduled OOC wins for CUSA. The problem is nobody wants to play Tech at home especially an SEC or a Big 12 team.

As far as post-season non scheduled games. Yes, UAB win over Iowa State was impressive even though the Big 12 seriously under-performed in the Tournament except for Oklahoma

The bolded part of your post is the issue. This isn't football so La Tech's OOC schedule success is not predicated on match ups against cartel schools.

ODU's non-con SOS was 41 (and only 1 cartel school LSU)
UTEP's non-con SOS was 37
La Tech's non-con SOS was 226

It's not the games against Temple, Syracuse or NC State that are the problem. But I absolutely believe that ANY CUSA school could sign home & home games with Colorado St., Buffalo, Davidson, Stephen F Austin, Boise St., Wofford, Valparaiso, Iona, Green Bay, Georgia St., Richmond, Yale, Murray St., Rhode Island, Illinois St., Wyoming, UC Davis, Eastern Washington, Central Michigan, Toledo, UMASS, Sam Houston St., Northeastern, High Point, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, Kent State, South Dakota St., William and Mary, La Salle & North Dakota St.
That's 32 teams in the RPI top 100 and I bet prior to the season at least half those teams were expected to be successful. And everyone of those teams would have benefited from playing La Tech this year win or lose.

Your belief is wrong according to the AD and Mike White. Considering have much we have won at home the last 3 years, those teams don't want to schedule a lost.

Remember we didn't go 5-25 and 18-18 the last couple years but 27-7 and 29-8

Exactly the reason you should have had no trouble scheduling quality opponents. La Tech has been good recently and was expected to be good again. You should demand better from your AD and Coach. Anything else is a total cop out. I said the exact same thing to USM fans last year.
You really believe a MAC team wouldn't have agreed to a home and home? Seriously look at that list. You think High Point wouldn't have returned your call?

Yes because they said they called literally everyone. Why would they lie and not try schedule strong especially at home where Tech would win. That's a side effect of being a consistent winner.

Sure they did. The side effect of being a consistent winner is being able to schedule more games against better teams because a loss doesn't hurt it helps. Keep accepting excuses from your AD for your mediocrity.

I call bull**** on them then. There is no way they called every team on that list and every one said no way. Any CUSA team would take a home and home with Wichita state, gonzaga, or vcu. Why? Because they are consistently good teams. Same logic for these teams playing la tech.