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RE: Way Too Early 2015-16 Basketball Thread
(04-01-2015 06:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
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(04-01-2015 03:37 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  
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(04-01-2015 02:30 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  It's like finishing 8-8 or 9-7 in the NFL for three years and never making the playoffs.

A La Tech fan should ask their AD about the 32 teams I listed previously. There's no way they called all those teams about games. And again, many of those teams were absolutely known quantities this year.

Unless Michael White is lying to us....I believe he is doing everything he can to get the best schedule he can. I remember him being frustrated with the schedule this past year. I remember him specifically talking about where he had to schedule a DII game around Christmas. He couldn't find any DI teams to fill that date. Maybe he's lying, but I don't think he is.

Last year, USM fans said the exact same thing.

But every year there is a list of 25+ mid majors in the top 100 and many are not there by accident or a surprise. If you honestly believe your AD/coach couldn't get a deal done with Central Michigan and that not being able to secure that kind of scheduling arrangement is okay then your fan base has wildly different expectations than ODU, UAB and the other CUSA schools who want this conference to regularly place multiple teams in the NCAA tourney, not the NIT.

I know other considerations are involved and I don't know what LA Tech spends on basketball so maybe your Coach is doing everything in his power based on the budgetary constraints he has to operate within.

In terms of getting those type of teams for games in Hattiesburg or Ruston, I think geography may play into the equation as well. These 2 small cities are not the easiest places to get to. There are not any major airports near either city.

That too but most of all perception and the how good these teams are and were.

Good enough to be dangerous, but not good enough to be considered a good win. So little name recognition that it looks like a bad loss.

No win situation for a big program and they're definitely not going to travel out of their way for a no win situation in an area that also offers no recruiting benefits.

Tough spot to be in for sure.
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(04-01-2015 06:47 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 05:10 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 03:37 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 03:18 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  Unless Michael White is lying to us....I believe he is doing everything he can to get the best schedule he can. I remember him being frustrated with the schedule this past year. I remember him specifically talking about where he had to schedule a DII game around Christmas. He couldn't find any DI teams to fill that date. Maybe he's lying, but I don't think he is.

Last year, USM fans said the exact same thing.

But every year there is a list of 25+ mid majors in the top 100 and many are not there by accident or a surprise. If you honestly believe your AD/coach couldn't get a deal done with Central Michigan and that not being able to secure that kind of scheduling arrangement is okay then your fan base has wildly different expectations than ODU, UAB and the other CUSA schools who want this conference to regularly place multiple teams in the NCAA tourney, not the NIT.

I know other considerations are involved and I don't know what LA Tech spends on basketball so maybe your Coach is doing everything in his power based on the budgetary constraints he has to operate within.

In terms of getting those type of teams for games in Hattiesburg or Ruston, I think geography may play into the equation as well. These 2 small cities are not the easiest places to get to. There are not any major airports near either city.

That too but most of all perception and the how good these teams are and were.

Good enough to be dangerous, but not good enough to be considered a good win. So little name recognition that it looks like a bad loss.

No win situation for a big program and they're definitely not going to travel out of their way for a no win situation in an area that also offers no recruiting benefits.

Tough spot to be in for sure.

Yes, well put
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(04-01-2015 06:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:06 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  There are plenty of factors to consider but the bottom line is the preseason #1 team in CUSA shouldn't have a non con sos in the 200s.

The conference should expect better.

Comeback in three years when ODU repeats as CUSA Champs and wins 28+ plus games for three straight years and we will have this conversation.

Y'all haven't won one CUSA championship. No one recognizes the 1 seed in the conference tournament as the champion of anything.

God, I'm happy we swept y'all this year. Next year UAB and ODU are the front runners. Enjoy reminiscing about those 27 win seasons. You ain't winning that many next year! 04-cheers
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Again, this isn't about the Wichita St or Gonzagas and other mid major elite or P5 schools. LA Tech needs to just play other strong mid majors. The Georgia States and Woffords of the world. It is much easier to schedule strong teams when you have a strong team.

You should really ask your AD why Wyoming or Murray State won't schedule a home and home. Were those schools even called? There is no way the answer is they are afraid to lose a road game.
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(04-01-2015 06:53 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:06 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  There are plenty of factors to consider but the bottom line is the preseason #1 team in CUSA shouldn't have a non con sos in the 200s.

The conference should expect better.

Comeback in three years when ODU repeats as CUSA Champs and wins 28+ plus games for three straight years and we will have this conversation.

Y'all haven't won one CUSA championship. No one recognizes the 1 seed in the conference tournament as the champion of anything.

God, I'm happy we swept y'all this year. Next year UAB and ODU are the front runners. Enjoy those 27 win seasons. You ain't winning that many next year! 04-cheers

Obviously CUSA does, straight from their website:
"After earning its second straight Conference USA regular-season conference championship and third consecutive league title overall"

So now you can predict the future? ODU can keep the preseason predictions and Tech will keep the CUSA season Championships
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(04-01-2015 07:03 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  So now you can predict the future?

No better than anyone else. Our returning players are better than yours. ODU will beat Tech, again.
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(04-01-2015 07:03 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  So now you can predict the future? ODU can keep the preseason predictions and Tech will keep the CUSA season Championships

No one thought ODU would be better than Tech this season...
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Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.
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(04-01-2015 07:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.

Not so. La. Tech. fans on the whole have been nothing but gracious and intelligent participants on this board. Do not generalize based on their one village idiot.
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(04-01-2015 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.

Not so. La. Tech. fans on the whole have been nothing but gracious and intelligent participants on this board. Do not generalize based on their one village idiot.

Valid point, but I have seen a few others as well.
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(04-01-2015 07:33 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:31 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.

Not so. La. Tech. fans on the whole have been nothing but gracious and intelligent participants on this board. Do not generalize based on their one village idiot.

Valid point, but I have seen a few others as well.

Let the personal insults begin.......
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(04-01-2015 06:58 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  Again, this isn't about the Wichita St or Gonzagas and other mid major elite or P5 schools. LA Tech needs to just play other strong mid majors. The Georgia States and Woffords of the world. It is much easier to schedule strong teams when you have a strong team.

You should really ask your AD why Wyoming or Murray State won't schedule a home and home. Were those schools even called? There is no way the answer is they are afraid to lose a road game.

Good point but when Tech schedule Northwestern State and Southern they were both conference champs and NCAA tourney teams with 23-9 and 23-10 records so sometime those teams under perform
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(04-01-2015 07:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.

I congratulated UAB when they won, it wasn't their fault the CUSA tourney is designed so poorly.

I knew Tech was screwed when UAB lost the two florida games and Tech would be playing the late game against the home team in the semifinal.
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(04-01-2015 07:09 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:03 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  So now you can predict the future? ODU can keep the preseason predictions and Tech will keep the CUSA season Championships

No one thought ODU would be better than Tech this season...


Who thinks that? Sometimes facts and records get in the way of a stated opinion.

Tech 15-3
UTEP 13-5
ODU 13-5



Conference record against the same competition indicates otherwise.

Now against ODU at your home court in Norfolk, yes ODU was much better that day. But the season is not 1 game
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(04-01-2015 06:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:06 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  There are plenty of factors to consider but the bottom line is the preseason #1 team in CUSA shouldn't have a non con sos in the 200s.

The conference should expect better.

Comeback in three years when ODU repeats as CUSA Champs and wins 28+ plus games for three straight years and we will have this conversation.

Ummm...We've done Home and Homes with Missouri, Clemson, Georgetown, most of the A10...just to name a few, in years we've gone to the dance and winning the CAA when it had a good GMU and VCU teams, and years when we were just okay.

Charlotte, UAB, UTEP, also schedule quite well and land quality teams on their home court.

LaTech I'd imagine is constrained by its relatively limited budget to set up some of these types of games. However, facilities and a coaches/AD connections are the biggest factors with getting quality teams at home.
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(04-01-2015 08:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:09 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:03 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  So now you can predict the future? ODU can keep the preseason predictions and Tech will keep the CUSA season Championships

No one thought ODU would be better than Tech this season...


Who thinks that? Sometimes facts and records get in the way of a stated opinion.

Tech 15-3
UTEP 13-5
ODU 13-5



Conference record against the same competition indicates otherwise.

Now against ODU at your home court in Norfolk, yes ODU was much better that day. But the season is not 1 game

The season isn't just conference play. We both ended up in the NIT but ODU was deemed better being a #1 seed and performed better. Also there's that whole thing where the 2 teams played and ODU won by 19. We have more fa ts than your opinion.
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(04-01-2015 06:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 06:06 PM)monarchoptimist Wrote:  There are plenty of factors to consider but the bottom line is the preseason #1 team in CUSA shouldn't have a non con sos in the 200s.

The conference should expect better.

Comeback in three years when ODU repeats as CUSA Champs and wins 28+ plus games for three straight years and we will have this conversation.

Call me when LA tech actually makes the NCAA tourney. Anyone can beat creampuffs year after year. Your mediocre program doesn't impress or scare anyone.
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(04-01-2015 08:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(04-01-2015 07:25 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  Don't you guys know, every decent mid major program is way to scared to go play at la tech. I mean it's so bad they have to schedule d2 teams. Clearly the scheduling has to be an issue because of their national recognition. Haha I mean did we really expect anything less from the la tech fans? Just remember how they acted when uab made the big dance.

I congratulated UAB when they won, it wasn't their fault the CUSA tourney is designed so poorly.

I knew Tech was screwed when UAB lost the two florida games and Tech would be playing the late game against the home team in the semifinal.

That is the most ass backwards compliment ever. I congratulated UAB for winning, but If it was any other day, place, or time, they never would have won. Also, they are going to make us look like **** in the NCAA tournament.

It wasn't just one or two La Tech fans reacting. People were also saying the same crap about MTSU. Go to their message board where UAB somehow cheated to get that auto bid. I know it's not the entire fan base, and every la tech fan I've met in person has been very nice, but there were multiple posters acting like idiots over losing to UAB.

And for what it's worth, southern was 20-9 with an rpi of 180. Who cares about that? Nw state at least had a top 100 rpi the year you brought up. We all have our scheduling issues, and we all get that. But to say you can't get anybody to play you because of name recognition is ridiculous. It isn't a bad loss losing to a top 100 team, no matter what the name on the jersey is.
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Middle Tennessee will be traveling to the Bahamas for a summer tour (10 additional practices and four exhibition games). A summer tour is what propelled us to three straight regular season conference titles (or co-) beginning in 2011. This is the summer program that allows teams to go do this sort of thing once every four years.

It's also announced that we will be playing in the Great Alaska Shootout. Our guys are going to be logging some serious airline miles.
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(04-03-2015 12:52 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Middle Tennessee will be traveling to the Bahamas for a summer tour (10 additional practices and four exhibition games). A summer tour is what propelled us to three straight regular season conference titles (or co-) beginning in 2011. This is the summer program that allows teams to go do this sort of thing once every four years.

It's also announced that we will be playing in the Great Alaska Shootout. Our guys are going to be logging some serious airline miles.

These two things for next season are HUGE. Absolutely HUGE. We'll hopefully be a significant power for a few years at least.
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