(02-08-2015 11:34 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Outside of MT.ORG things are not as some want you to think. Take in account two facebook pages. Support Josh Pastner 2672 members. Fire Josh Pastner 35 members. LOL

ncrdbl1 hasn't been the same since Earnhardt bit the big one and Elliott retired...
here's a video to express his true thoughts...

(02-09-2015 03:41 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:40 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:36 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:27 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:24 AM)450bench Wrote:  So you think his record is good against quality competition, you think he makes adjustments in games, you don't think he gets second guessed by anybody and you don't think he's put himself in a tough spot. BUT you agree that he won't have to work again but he probably will?

If that's the case then all I can say is WOW.

I didn't say any of that. You did.

I simply think you're overstating the problems.

You said you didn't agree with any of those points other than the fact that Josh probably wouldn't have to work again BUT that he probably would.

Apparently you have a problem with reading skills.

Then you do agree with those points?

No. I only agree somewhat, with a great amount of qualifiers.

(02-09-2015 03:44 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:41 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:40 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:36 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:27 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  I didn't say any of that. You did.

I simply think you're overstating the problems.

You said you didn't agree with any of those points other than the fact that Josh probably wouldn't have to work again BUT that he probably would.

Apparently you have a problem with reading skills.

Then you do agree with those points?

No. I only agree somewhat, with a great amount of qualifiers.

Clear as mud. Nice.

(02-09-2015 03:47 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:44 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:41 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:40 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 03:36 AM)450bench Wrote:  You said you didn't agree with any of those points other than the fact that Josh probably wouldn't have to work again BUT that he probably would.

Apparently you have a problem with reading skills.

Then you do agree with those points?

No. I only agree somewhat, with a great amount of qualifiers.

Clear as mud. Nice.

Better than written in stone, like your pig-headed opinions.

Another useless thread. Consider the source

I resent the implication. I'm a little touched

Wow.

2,900 people "liked" a FB page out of a city population of 600,000 plus?

That's a mandate.

(02-09-2015 03:41 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  I said before Thanksgiving if Josh is our HC next season I’m gone. I learned a good hard lesson supporting football until the end while the money boys allowed it to rot. Not this time.

Think it’s time to join the rest of my buds (who were part of the initial Tiger supporters in my generation) and get off this train before it completely jumps the tracks.

Time for the “Me” generation to do their thing with their “Mine” coach.

I've said that after each of the last 2 years, but like a fool kept coming back b/c I love Tiger hoops. This time though, I am with ya. I've already skipped 5 or 6 games this year and gave the rest of them for this season to my wife's friend who is a single mom and doesn't get to take her son to many Tiger or Grizz games. Maybe they can find some enjoyment in going b/c I cant.

New coach is hired this offseason, I will be at every game next year. Pastner still here, and I'll be at none. There has to be lots more folks in the same boat.

The members of MT.org have a disproportionate impact on shaping perception because we take the time and energy to discuss Tiger athletics and the media picks up on it. We do not necessarily represent the views held by the majority of Tiger fans.

(02-08-2015 11:34 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Outside of MT.ORG things are not as some want you to think. Take in account two facebook pages. Support Josh Pastner 2672 members. Fire Josh Pastner 35 members. LOL

(02-09-2015 12:19 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  That is funny. Not surprising, though.

(02-09-2015 01:36 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  BTW, what is BEM?

IDK

(02-09-2015 01:41 AM)tigergg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:29 AM)eltigre Wrote:  Why is it funny? It is clear to all but the most obtuse BEM that CJP has lost the confidence of many of the fans and several of the players. And you are using FB page likes / dislikes as a measuring stick? I think the stands trump any sophomoric FB page like / dislike ratios.

Don't worry about it there are like 5 people on this board that no matter what is said about Josh they are going to defend him.. I know plenty of season ticket holders that aren't renewing if Josh is still here.. Anyone with half a brain can see that he has lost a lot of the fan base.. For the life of me I don't see how anyone that knows anything about basketball can't see that Josh is in way over his head and can't Coach his way out of a wet paper bag!!


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There are also more than five who no matter what Josh has done or is doing or will do...will bash him.

But glad to see another open minded reasoned response...as for the life of you, you do not see how anyone who knows anything about basketball cannot see that he is in way over his head. And cannot coach his way out if a paper bag.

Yes...you were trolling...but this is fairly typical...

Tough season this year. Likely back in too twenty or better caliber next year. Maybe those fans come back...maybe not.
Regardless, they will still spend a lot of time bothering those who do.

(02-09-2015 08:55 AM)Mimi Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:41 AM)tigergg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:29 AM)eltigre Wrote:  Why is it funny? It is clear to all but the most obtuse BEM that CJP has lost the confidence of many of the fans and several of the players. And you are using FB page likes / dislikes as a measuring stick? I think the stands trump any sophomoric FB page like / dislike ratios.

Don't worry about it there are like 5 people on this board that no matter what is said about Josh they are going to defend him.. I know plenty of season ticket holders that aren't renewing if Josh is still here.. Anyone with half a brain can see that he has lost a lot of the fan base.. For the life of me I don't see how anyone that knows anything about basketball can't see that Josh is in way over his head and can't Coach his way out of a wet paper bag!!


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There are also more than five who no matter what Josh has done or is doing or will do...will bash him.

But glad to see another open minded reasoned response...as for the life of you, you do not see how anyone who knows anything about basketball cannot see that he is in way over his head. And cannot coach his way out if a paper bag.

Yes...you were trolling...but this is fairly typical...

Tough season this year. Likely back in too twenty or better caliber next year. Maybe those fans come back...maybe not.
Regardless, they will still spend a lot of time bothering those who do.

You troll everyday on here..


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(02-09-2015 02:51 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 02:48 AM)450bench Wrote:  All of this is just a matter of opinion of course. What's not a matter of opinion is his record against quality competition and his complete lack of ability to adjust or make in game changes. And those things go hand in hand. There is no evidence to support either of those things changing. His head scratching decisions add up and are clearly evident to fans and players and all those in between.
He has placed himself in a very tough spot but his massive income provides quite a soft landing.
The program needs a change. Soon.

Almost everything in this post is opinion.

Opinion or not, it is the opinion of the big money boosters that ultimately matters and it sounds like some are disappointed to say the least.

(02-09-2015 12:19 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  That is funny. Not surprising, though.

What's really funny to me is the love affair some on here have with Pastner. I get it, what's posted on facebook speaks for the entire Tiger nation. Look around oh great Pastner lover at all the empty seats at our home games, gets worse with each season and each game. Guess those that are not attending and have lost faith in Pastner just forgot to post on facebook.

(02-08-2015 11:34 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Outside of MT.ORG things are not as some want you to think. Take in account two facebook pages. Support Josh Pastner 2672 members. Fire Josh Pastner 35 members. LOL

the only thing that tells me is that smart rational people don't use facebook

(02-09-2015 03:56 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  Better than written in stone, like your pig-headed opinions.

...of which you are the authority.

(02-09-2015 02:14 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 02:07 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:30 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  Typical response from one of the clueless.
Did you even read the OP?

What the OP said is ridiculous. If you want a poll then poll the real fans. The hardcore people and anyone else who has a clue about basketball that follows the team. Poll the opposing coaches while your at it too.
Poll Alan Graf a see what he says. He and his thick wallet buddies will do the final "polling."

The real fans who should be polled are those who buy season tickets AND pay the per seat donation. It us what keeps Tiger BB afloat. Then weigh those counts on a point system by amount and length of donation. Real supporters would voice their opinion.

Not saying to ignore others but I know too many graduates of other schools who watch Tiger BB religiously but don't put a dime into program. It would be interesting to see how those two groups differ in their opinion.

I'm one of those fans and there are many like me who think Pastner is in over his head and needs to be replaced. I've made my feelings known to Tom Bowen and Adam Walker, told them to pay attention to all the empty seats and pay attention to those not renewing season tix along with stopping their TSF donations if Pastners still the coach next year. Believe me, they're paying very close attention to what's going on with the fan base, and it's not coming from a facebook page.