I hope Nick is able to play. It's a good chance for him to show what he can do

Hank McDowell ‏@skinnypalmer 12h12 hours ago

#freejake

(02-09-2015 01:15 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Hank McDowell ‏@skinnypalmer 12h12 hours ago

#freejake

Too bad Mundt didn't enroll

I wish Pookie got some more run. He's mistake prone, but he's one of the more natural scorers we have on the team. If we are gonna suck anyways, I'm all for giving him a good 15 minutes per game.

(02-09-2015 01:39 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  I wish Pookie got some more run. He's mistake prone, but he's one of the more natural scorers we have on the team. If we are gonna suck anyways, I'm all for giving him a good 15 minutes per game.

Mistake prone how?

Here are some fun facts:

Pookie's turnover rate (number of turnovers per 100 possessions) is 33.7%. Not very good. He has played about 20 games in his college career.

Kedren, in his third season of high level D1 ball has a turnover rate of 31.1%.

So, essentially, per every 100 plays Pookie will turn the ball over 2 more times than Kedren.

Now, on the flip side, Kedren's assist rate is 17.8.

Pookie's is 34.3--which is 41st BEST in the nation.

So, for every 100 possessions, Pookie is getting about 16 more assists. Pookie also has more than twice as many steals per 100 possessions than Kedren, so the two extra turnovers per 100 possessions are negated by the extra steals.

@TheCAJasonSmith: Nick King (ankle sprain) listed as probable for ECU in Memphis' game notes, so that's a positive sign. Team traveling to N.C. this aftn.

Mistake prone because he's a freshman who's made mistakes. I just said I wanted him to get more playing time, so don't act like I said the kid is terrible.

Nick King is now listed as probable for ECU. Looks like he may get to play.

(02-09-2015 02:32 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  Mistake prone because he's a freshman who's made mistakes. I just said I wanted him to get more playing time, so don't act like I said the kid is terrible.

Oh, I never said you called him terrible.

Obviously, we all were in a discussion of Kedren v. Pookie, and by tabbing Rashawn as "mistake prone" it seemed to imply that Kedren was the opposite of that, thus Kedren should be playing more.

The numbers show that both are essentially "mistake prone" about the same, yet Pookie trounces Kedren in getting assists and gets more steals. Plus one would hope a guy in his third year of D1 ball would be far less "mistake prone"--which he hasn't shown to be.

(02-09-2015 04:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 02:32 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  Mistake prone because he's a freshman who's made mistakes. I just said I wanted him to get more playing time, so don't act like I said the kid is terrible.

Oh, I never said you called him terrible.

Obviously, we all were in a discussion of Kedren v. Pookie, and by tabbing Rashawn as "mistake prone" it seemed to imply that Kedren was the opposite of that, thus Kedren should be playing more.

The numbers show that both are essentially "mistake prone" about the same, yet Pookie trounces Kedren in getting assists and gets more steals. Plus one would hope a guy in his third year of D1 ball would be far less "mistake prone"--which he hasn't shown to be.

Gotcha. Kedren still makes his fair share of mistakes and hasn't put up the assist numbers that Pookie has, but to me purely from an eye test it looks like the team is under a little more control when Kedren runs the point. I don't think the gap is so large though that Kedren should be getting 35 minutes while Pookie gets garbage time. Like I said before, I think Pookie deserves about 15 minutes per game to get going. Put him in, let him play through a few mistakes and let him learn. Other than Austin I really think Pookie is the only person that can really create his own shot, and as such should be given the freedom to score. I don't expect him to save us this year, but his development is crucial for next season.

(02-09-2015 04:44 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 04:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 02:32 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  Mistake prone because he's a freshman who's made mistakes. I just said I wanted him to get more playing time, so don't act like I said the kid is terrible.

Oh, I never said you called him terrible.

Obviously, we all were in a discussion of Kedren v. Pookie, and by tabbing Rashawn as "mistake prone" it seemed to imply that Kedren was the opposite of that, thus Kedren should be playing more.

The numbers show that both are essentially "mistake prone" about the same, yet Pookie trounces Kedren in getting assists and gets more steals. Plus one would hope a guy in his third year of D1 ball would be far less "mistake prone"--which he hasn't shown to be.

Gotcha. Kedren still makes his fair share of mistakes and hasn't put up the assist numbers that Pookie has, but to me purely from an eye test it looks like the team is under a little more control when Kedren runs the point. I don't think the gap is so large though that Kedren should be getting 35 minutes while Pookie gets garbage time. Like I said before, I think Pookie deserves about 15 minutes per game to get going. Put him in, let him play through a few mistakes and let him learn. Other than Austin I really think Pookie is the only person that can really create his own shot, and as such should be given the freedom to score. I don't expect him to save us this year, but his development is crucial for next season.

Agree.

(02-09-2015 10:42 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Both ECU and USF are horrible. Even without Nichols, we have way more talent than either of those two teams.

I don't know that I believe that but since i've heard King probably will play I give us more of a shot!

(02-09-2015 01:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:39 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  I wish Pookie got some more run. He's mistake prone, but he's one of the more natural scorers we have on the team. If we are gonna suck anyways, I'm all for giving him a good 15 minutes per game.

Mistake prone how?

Here are some fun facts:

Pookie's turnover rate (number of turnovers per 100 possessions) is 33.7%. Not very good. He has played about 20 games in his college career.

Kedren, in his third season of high level D1 ball has a turnover rate of 31.1%.

So, essentially, per every 100 plays Pookie will turn the ball over 2 more times than Kedren.

Now, on the flip side, Kedren's assist rate is 17.8.

Pookie's is 34.3--which is 41st BEST in the nation.

So, for every 100 possessions, Pookie is getting about 16 more assists. Pookie also has more than twice as many steals per 100 possessions than Kedren, so the two extra turnovers per 100 possessions are negated by the extra steals.

Please stop posting facts. It irritates Pastner and causes him to spark out.

(02-10-2015 11:58 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 01:39 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  I wish Pookie got some more run. He's mistake prone, but he's one of the more natural scorers we have on the team. If we are gonna suck anyways, I'm all for giving him a good 15 minutes per game.

Mistake prone how?

Here are some fun facts:

Pookie's turnover rate (number of turnovers per 100 possessions) is 33.7%. Not very good. He has played about 20 games in his college career.

Kedren, in his third season of high level D1 ball has a turnover rate of 31.1%.

So, essentially, per every 100 plays Pookie will turn the ball over 2 more times than Kedren.

Now, on the flip side, Kedren's assist rate is 17.8.

Pookie's is 34.3--which is 41st BEST in the nation.

So, for every 100 possessions, Pookie is getting about 16 more assists. Pookie also has more than twice as many steals per 100 possessions than Kedren, so the two extra turnovers per 100 possessions are negated by the extra steals.

Please stop posting facts. It irritates Pastner and causes him to spark out.

I'm sending them from outer space, so it should be all good.