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RE: Bo Pelini to Youngstown St
(12-16-2014 07:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 06:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Just goes to show that Bo wasn't well respected.

That or it allows him to collect a paycheck as a head coach to rebuild his image and doesn't relieve Nebraska of the requirement to pay him $150k a month for 51 months like taking a comparable FBS job would.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../19698551/

Quote:Under the terms of Pelini's contract, Nebraska will owe him as much as $7.65 million over the remaining term in an agreement that runs through Feb. 28, 2019. The deal paid Pelini a base salary of just under $3.1 million for the current contract year, and that amount was scheduled to increase by $100,000 next year.

Pelini is owed $150,000 for each of the 51 full months remaining on the deal ($1.8 million a year), according to his contract, although "within a reasonably brief period following termination," he is required to use his best efforts to find "substantially comparable employment" that generates income to offset Nebraska's obligation to him. Pelini's contract with another employer must be "without structuring or timing (of) compensation to avoid mitigation."

1.8 million really isn't that much. Hell, Muschamp almost got that much just to be a Defensive Coordinator. There is more to it than just money, perhaps there isn't to you but to think that a coach that just competed on the level of Nebraska is happy at Youngstown? I don't believe that at all. Pelini showed how much he cares. That was never his problem. His problem was controlling his behavior.

Sorry, but it is quite an insult to him for people to say that he is happy with the situation. No, it is likely his only situation that isn't a massive cut in pay.

As I said, it shows he isn't all that well respected due to his behavior.
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Its a good deal for Pelini. He gets a few seasons to coach in his hometown and rebuild his image., while still working off of Nebraska's dime.
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I wouldn't say Sun Belt. I would say they could be aiming for the MAC to replace UMass after next year, and be a more viable add-on than they (location; better football when adjusting unlike UMass).

Of course, if the MAC were to add on another D1AA team, I'd want to bring in a 14th team -- preferably a Good team like Marshall (who'd make MAC better than CUSA by that shift alone), but most likely a good D1AA in the midwest like N Iowa who's locked & loaded with aspirations & a nice purse, to expand their football into the FBS.
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No way the MAC wants Youngstown State nor do they want them up at all. NE OH does not need a third university at the FBS level.
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Why not go to a G5 school? There were plenty of vacant openings.
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(12-17-2014 09:08 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Why not go to a G5 school? There were plenty of vacant openings.

There's a lot to be said for going home, and few people in this profession are afforded that opportunity. Akron and Kent already have coaches, so Youngstown was the only opening in NE Ohio.
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At Youngstown you can recruit almost anybody, so expect an influx of transfers. Remember Tressel is the president at Youngstown as well.
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(12-16-2014 07:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(12-16-2014 06:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Just goes to show that Bo wasn't well respected.

That or it allows him to collect a paycheck as a head coach to rebuild his image and doesn't relieve Nebraska of the requirement to pay him $150k a month for 51 months like taking a comparable FBS job would.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../19698551/

Quote:Under the terms of Pelini's contract, Nebraska will owe him as much as $7.65 million over the remaining term in an agreement that runs through Feb. 28, 2019. The deal paid Pelini a base salary of just under $3.1 million for the current contract year, and that amount was scheduled to increase by $100,000 next year.

Pelini is owed $150,000 for each of the 51 full months remaining on the deal ($1.8 million a year), according to his contract, although "within a reasonably brief period following termination," he is required to use his best efforts to find "substantially comparable employment" that generates income to offset Nebraska's obligation to him. Pelini's contract with another employer must be "without structuring or timing (of) compensation to avoid mitigation."

I see the lawyers have gotten wise to that maneuver now. When Arizona State hired Dennis Erickson many years ago, they heavily backloaded his contract so that Erickson could still collect what the 49ers owed him for the first few years, with only a small amount of "mitigation" from ASU.
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(12-12-2014 11:34 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 10:36 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 08:01 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I think Pitt should go after Bo Pelini . Close to home, P5 and right in B1G Country for recruiting.

This actually makes sense.

Does make sense, but it's a rare thing for a fired coach to come back and do well (at DIA level). Bruce and Solich are the only ones to pull it off so far, and the list of failures is surprisingly long.

I do think Pelini is poised to join the short list, but I'm not sure Pitt is the right place.

What about Rich Rod and Bobby Petrino?
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(12-17-2014 03:05 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 11:34 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 10:36 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(12-12-2014 08:01 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I think Pitt should go after Bo Pelini . Close to home, P5 and right in B1G Country for recruiting.

This actually makes sense.

Does make sense, but it's a rare thing for a fired coach to come back and do well (at DIA level). Bruce and Solich are the only ones to pull it off so far, and the list of failures is surprisingly long.

I do think Pelini is poised to join the short list, but I'm not sure Pitt is the right place.

What about Rich Rod and Bobby Petrino?

Yeah, Rich Rod is about to make the list, although I'd be delighted if he didn't.

I should have been more clear, talking about getting fired for team's lagging field performance. So Petrino isn't on the list.
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I think this article sums up why Pelini is not coaching at the FBS level: Nobody was going to touch him after the way he went out at Nebraska.

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/bo-pelini-i...da4f8.html
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Oh yeah, he is definitely black balled now if he wasn't before. As I said earlier in the thread, he most likely was due to his behavior. These top level Universities pay a lot of money to these guys and they expect them to be the face of the University. Bo Pelini was a terrible face for Nebraska. He did himself no favors by trying to damage the program in his final meeting with the program. His intent is very obvious, he wanted to try and drive some of those players away from Nebraska.

Pathetic. He deserves everything coming at him. Pelini is such a hypocrite. Talking about "core values" while at the same time calling the AD the names that he is calling him? Great example you provide Pelini, great example.

What a piece of ****.
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Quote:"His habitual use of inappropriate language, and his personal and professional attacks on administrators, are antithetical to the values of our university. His behavior is consistent with a pattern of unprofessional, disrespectful behavior directed by Mr. Pelini toward the passionate fans of Nebraska, employees of the university and, most concerning, our student-athletes.


"This behavior is not tolerated at the University of Nebraska and, among many other concerns, played a role in his dismissal."

There it is. His behavior was a big part in why he is gone. The other aspect is that he couldn't get his team up for winning the big games. Had he only had one of these problems, he would still be there. The combination was too much to be acceptable at Nebraska.
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Youngstown seems to be doing a good job with Big10 washouts. Hell, better coaches than thugs like at UNA.
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(12-17-2014 10:53 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
Quote:"His habitual use of inappropriate language, and his personal and professional attacks on administrators, are antithetical to the values of our university. His behavior is consistent with a pattern of unprofessional, disrespectful behavior directed by Mr. Pelini toward the passionate fans of Nebraska, employees of the university and, most concerning, our student-athletes.


"This behavior is not tolerated at the University of Nebraska and, among many other concerns, played a role in his dismissal."

There it is. His behavior was a big part in why he is gone. The other aspect is that he couldn't get his team up for winning the big games. Had he only had one of these problems, he would still be there. The combination was too much to be acceptable at Nebraska.

Yeah. Because no school would ever tolerate a coach who used "inappropriate language".

Pelini should have had better judgment and not said those things in a venue where he could be surreptitiously recorded. But Eichorst's unnecessary response shows that Pelini was not wrong about him.

By the way...

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/545438374765420544
Quote:Stewart Mandel
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So .. those Pelini comments come off a lot more benign if you listen to the entire 30 minute audio. http://studio.omaha.com/EXPLICIT-Raw-aud...on=omahawh
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Even if they come off as more "benign", he is leaving and he is badmouthing an administrator of the school he is leaving but those players are still there in the situation. It is called poisoning the water upon departure.

As far as your "inappropriate language" comment? It is all about how he is saying what he is trying to say. Of course coaches use colorful language all the time but when you are trying to take a moral stance against someone while at the same time calling him the names he was using? Yeah, good luck defending that kind of behavior Wedge. You are going to have to get extra creative to pull that off.
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(12-17-2014 11:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Youngstown seems to be doing a good job with Big10 washouts. Hell, better coaches than thugs like at UNA.

You really are a self-made retard.
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(06-01-2015 07:54 PM)High Plains Drifter Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 11:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Youngstown seems to be doing a good job with Big10 washouts. Hell, better coaches than thugs like at UNA.

You really are a self-made retard.

So, we didn't fashion teams out of ex-SEC thugs?
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(06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 07:54 PM)High Plains Drifter Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 11:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Youngstown seems to be doing a good job with Big10 washouts. Hell, better coaches than thugs like at UNA.

You really are a self-made retard.

So, we didn't fashion teams out of ex-SEC thugs?


We are you calling D2 schools names like what you are doing? They should have the right to be in D1. It would give some FBS schools to renew rivalry games against them if they were in FCS.
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(06-01-2015 08:25 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 08:23 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 07:54 PM)High Plains Drifter Wrote:  
(12-17-2014 11:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Youngstown seems to be doing a good job with Big10 washouts. Hell, better coaches than thugs like at UNA.

You really are a self-made retard.

So, we didn't fashion teams out of ex-SEC thugs?


We are you calling D2 schools names like what you are doing? They should have the right to be in D1. It would give some FBS schools to renew rivalry games against them if they were in FCS.

Calling names?

You very clearly have no idea what is going on here.

We made quite a name for ourselves under Bowden by taking every SEC thug that got thrown out of those programs. Hell, for several years UNA could legitimately claim to have FBS talent.

It isn't name calling; it's talking about a very real thing that happened in our history.

It's one reason Bowden ran into problems in Florence, and something Wallace specifically addressed when he took back over.
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