(12-07-2014 01:38 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Minnesota? So that's the best team the Big 12 beat OOC?

Before yesterday that was the 2nd best team Ohio State beat. They beat #13 Michigan St, #25 Minnesota and #16 Wisconsin. Everyone else sucked.

(12-07-2014 01:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Stop and ask yourself if their name was Texas and not Texas Christian, with the exact same resume, do you really think they would have dropped from 3rd to 6th?

This was a money grab. Excluding two private schools with smaller fan bases. Excluding the only two schools whose fan bases would spend the least amount of money on DFW hotels for the title game.

Las Vegas would make TCU a favorite over Florida St or Ohio St on a neutral field tomorrow.

I think that's fair. TCU and Baylor won't take many fans anywhere.

But, for as valid of a point that may be in that respect it doesn't make up for TCU or Baylor not playing a CCG. That's what this is all about.

No need for a CCG when the entire conference plays a round robin.

(12-07-2014 01:52 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Stop and ask yourself if their name was Texas and not Texas Christian, with the exact same resume, do you really think they would have dropped from 3rd to 6th?

This was a money grab. Excluding two private schools with smaller fan bases. Excluding the only two schools whose fan bases would spend the least amount of money on DFW hotels for the title game.

Las Vegas would make TCU a favorite over Florida St or Ohio St on a neutral field tomorrow.

I think that's fair. TCU and Baylor won't take many fans anywhere.

But, for as valid of a point that may be in that respect it doesn't make up for TCU or Baylor not playing a CCG. That's what this is all about.

No need for a CCG when the entire conference plays a round robin.

The playoff committee just said otherwise.

(12-07-2014 01:51 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:38 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Minnesota? So that's the best team the Big 12 beat OOC?

Before yesterday that was the 2nd best team Ohio State beat. They beat #13 Michigan St, #25 Minnesota and #16 Wisconsin. Everyone else sucked.

This is why end of year championship games mean a lot. Gives you a chance to pad your resume.

(12-07-2014 01:26 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  The Big 12 did it to themselves. No expansion for a championship game, 2 true champions, 5 state regional footprint. Karl Benson could not do worse as a commissioner for the Big 12.

This.

Big 12 was top heavy like the ACC and they were living off the fact that Oklahoma was more highly regarded then it probably should have been this year.

Out of conference they had WVU's close loss to Alabama, K-State's close loss to Auburn, Okla State's close loss to FSU and Texas' close loss to UCLA.

Best win was TCU over Minny.

ACC had GT @ Georgia, VT @ Ohio State, and BC at home over USC.

In terms of close losses:

Miami @ Nebraska, UVA vs. UCLA.

Don't really see much difference between the two conferences this year myself.

Cheers,
Neil

(12-07-2014 01:53 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:52 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Stop and ask yourself if their name was Texas and not Texas Christian, with the exact same resume, do you really think they would have dropped from 3rd to 6th?

This was a money grab. Excluding two private schools with smaller fan bases. Excluding the only two schools whose fan bases would spend the least amount of money on DFW hotels for the title game.

Las Vegas would make TCU a favorite over Florida St or Ohio St on a neutral field tomorrow.

I think that's fair. TCU and Baylor won't take many fans anywhere.

But, for as valid of a point that may be in that respect it doesn't make up for TCU or Baylor not playing a CCG. That's what this is all about.

No need for a CCG when the entire conference plays a round robin.

The playoff committee just said otherwise.

I really think the committee picks the teams they wanted in and then creates the story that backs their selection. Ohio St was too big of a college football behemoth to leave out.

(12-07-2014 02:51 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:53 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:52 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Stop and ask yourself if their name was Texas and not Texas Christian, with the exact same resume, do you really think they would have dropped from 3rd to 6th?

This was a money grab. Excluding two private schools with smaller fan bases. Excluding the only two schools whose fan bases would spend the least amount of money on DFW hotels for the title game.

Las Vegas would make TCU a favorite over Florida St or Ohio St on a neutral field tomorrow.

I think that's fair. TCU and Baylor won't take many fans anywhere.

But, for as valid of a point that may be in that respect it doesn't make up for TCU or Baylor not playing a CCG. That's what this is all about.

No need for a CCG when the entire conference plays a round robin.

The playoff committee just said otherwise.

I really think the committee picks the teams they wanted in and then creates the story that backs their selection. Ohio St was too big of a college football behemoth to leave out.

I think there is some truth to that.

The lack of a CCG still stands out though and at very least it made for an all to easy excuse.

One of your top teams can't play a 2-9 team and expect winning that game to get them into the play-offs. If TCU and Baylor had played each other, the winner would have most certainly topped Ohio State for #4. As it is the committee got it right.
CJ

(12-07-2014 03:03 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  As it is the committee got it right.

There is no way the committee got it "right." No matter who they chose.

They had 6 great candidates for 4 spots. Impossible situation.

What's even more interesting is that they ranked FSU 3rd. If we were still under the old 1-2 BCS format, the committee would not let undefeated Florida St defend their title!

(12-07-2014 01:35 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:33 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  OU sucked. UT sucked. Sorry.

That is brave and bold talk for a Rutgers fan.

Those two powerhouses were down, so TCU and Baylor stepped up to take their place.

...but were put back in their place.... Consequently, neither school can take the place of UT or OU....

(12-07-2014 01:43 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Eyeballs on TV and buts in seats=

SEC 1
B1G 1a
PAC 2
ACC 2a
Big 12 5

Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

(12-07-2014 04:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:43 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Eyeballs on TV and buts in seats=

SEC 1
B1G 1a
PAC 2
ACC 2a
Big 12 5

Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

You need to go and look at the ratings again. Big 12 is NOT #3 in TV ratings.

(12-07-2014 04:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:43 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Eyeballs on TV and buts in seats=

SEC 1
B1G 1a
PAC 2
ACC 2a
Big 12 5

Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

You need to go and look at the ratings again. Big 12 is NOT #3 in TV ratings.

Look at apples to apples ratings. They are. When you compare 9 Big 12 games/team to 6 ACC/Pac 12 games/team they aren't, but that's not a valid comparison.

Now this year with FSU's great ratings, the ACC may be 3rd. Haven't seen any analysis yet.

(12-07-2014 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:43 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Eyeballs on TV and buts in seats=

SEC 1
B1G 1a
PAC 2
ACC 2a
Big 12 5

Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

You need to go and look at the ratings again. Big 12 is NOT #3 in TV ratings.

Look at apples to apples ratings. They are. When you compare 9 Big 12 games/team to 6 ACC/Pac 12 games/team they aren't, but that's not a valid comparison.

Now this year with FSU's great ratings, the ACC may be 3rd. Haven't seen any analysis yet.

If you haven't seen any analysis then how do you know the Big 12 is 2nd or 3rd in TV ratings?

Big 12 was a couple upsets away from 2 in the playoffs. Some years CCG help some times they hurt, especially if there are upsets.

This year they helped because everyone won and one team looked really, really strong.

(12-07-2014 05:00 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:43 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Eyeballs on TV and buts in seats=

SEC 1
B1G 1a
PAC 2
ACC 2a
Big 12 5

Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

You need to go and look at the ratings again. Big 12 is NOT #3 in TV ratings.

Look at apples to apples ratings. They are. When you compare 9 Big 12 games/team to 6 ACC/Pac 12 games/team they aren't, but that's not a valid comparison.

Now this year with FSU's great ratings, the ACC may be 3rd. Haven't seen any analysis yet.

If you haven't seen any analysis then how do you know the Big 12 is 2nd or 3rd in TV ratings?

Very valid Question, lol.


The fact is that the ACC has been #3 for the last several years. PERIOD.

(12-07-2014 05:13 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  Big 12 was a couple upsets away from 2 in the playoffs. Some years CCG help some times they hurt, especially if there are upsets.

This year they helped because everyone won and one team looked really, really strong.

There were 3 blowouts and a squeaker by the only undefeated.

(12-07-2014 05:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 05:00 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 04:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  Fans is seats
SEC 1
B1G 2
gap
Big 12 3
gap
Pac 12 4
ACC 5

TV ratings
SEC 1
big gap
B1G 2
small gap
Big 12 3
ACC 4
Pac 12 5

You need to go and look at the ratings again. Big 12 is NOT #3 in TV ratings.

Look at apples to apples ratings. They are. When you compare 9 Big 12 games/team to 6 ACC/Pac 12 games/team they aren't, but that's not a valid comparison.

Now this year with FSU's great ratings, the ACC may be 3rd. Haven't seen any analysis yet.

If you haven't seen any analysis then how do you know the Big 12 is 2nd or 3rd in TV ratings?

Very valid Question, lol.


The fact is that the ACC has been #3 for the last several years. PERIOD.

I can see your ACC education leaves you lacking in reading comprehension (assuming you're a grad and not just a fan). I was clearly referring to 2014 with the comment about FSU's good ratings this year.

(12-07-2014 03:29 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:35 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 01:33 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  OU sucked. UT sucked. Sorry.

That is brave and bold talk for a Rutgers fan.

Those two powerhouses were down, so TCU and Baylor stepped up to take their place.

...but were put back in their place.... Consequently, neither school can take the place of UT or OU....

They stepped on the field, but in the minds of the money and ratings, TCU and Baylor can never replace Texas and Oklahoma.