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RE: Honest Question
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This was a simple cut and paste for the bottom part of the Liberty Bowl where the blue seats end so this is to scale. I think Tiger Lane is to scale but I can't remember. I made this a while back. Obviously Tiger Lane would have to be narrowed due to the limited land on the east side of Zach Curlin but really you could extend a Tiger Lane set up down the entire east side of Zach Curlin from Central to across from Campus School.

Sell the land across the street to a booster or the Highland Hundred so alcohol can be allowed on Tiger Lane. Unless the university can designate "non dry" parts of the campus. Build a giant parking garage in one part of the central parking lot that takes up half the lot, use the other half as the surface lot to allow tailgating.

We can build the bottom bowl and one deck first to create demand (+- 35k +- 12k = 47k) (This will be atleast 10 years from now so hopefully our attendance will be atleast a consistent 45k by then). Suites can go at the top of the bottom bowl all the way across each sideline. The upper decks will go on top of the suites, like Houston's new stadium. Once more seating is needed add the other side upper deck of +- 12k bringing capacity to around 59k. With suites included it'll be around 61k-62k. This will be a good size for us in the Big 12 04-rock

If the rotc buildings (that obviously get torn down in this scenario) need to go by the field/stadium build new buildings in the ellipse. They could use the stadium for training. I'm sure they'd love running stadium steps. If not a requirement they can be built elsewhere on campus and the ellipse can be used for additional tailgating, possibly the student area.

Put it on the master plan and set the goal at $10 million a year for 10 years and go from there. The Liberty Bowl is good for right now, that is why we make this a 10 year long term fundraising campaign for the future.

That was my contribution. Now we just need $100 million for the first phase 03-wink . All I want for compensation is 5 season tickets every year for life.
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11-25-2014 10:15 AM
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Again, the updated master plan calls for multiple academic buildings in that area as well...
11-25-2014 10:29 AM
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(11-25-2014 10:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  [Image: ocs3_zpssm7h2rwh.jpg]

This was a simple cut and paste for the bottom part of the Liberty Bowl where the blue seats end so this is to scale. I think Tiger Lane is to scale but I can't remember. I made this a while back. Obviously Tiger Lane would have to be narrowed due to the limited land on the east side of Zach Curlin but really you could extend a Tiger Lane set up down the entire east side of Zach Curlin from Central to across from Campus School.

Sell the land across the street to a booster or the Highland Hundred so alcohol can be allowed on Tiger Lane. Unless the university can designate "non dry" parts of the campus. Build a giant parking garage in one part of the central parking lot that takes up half the lot, use the other half as the surface lot to allow tailgating.

We can build the bottom bowl and one deck first to create demand (+- 35k +- 12k = 47k) (This will be atleast 10 years from now so hopefully our attendance will be atleast a consistent 45k by then). Suites can go at the top of the bottom bowl all the way across each sideline. The upper decks will go on top of the suites, like Houston's new stadium. Once more seating is needed add the other side upper deck of +- 12k bringing capacity to around 59k. With suites included it'll be around 61k-62k. This will be a good size for us in the Big 12 04-rock

If the rotc buildings (that obviously get torn down in this scenario) need to go by the field/stadium build new buildings in the ellipse. They could use the stadium for training. I'm sure they'd love running stadium steps. If not a requirement they can be built elsewhere on campus and the ellipse can be used for additional tailgating, possibly the student area.

Put it on the master plan and set the goal at $10 million a year for 10 years and go from there. The Liberty Bowl is good for right now, that is why we make this a 10 year long term fundraising campaign for the future.

That was my contribution. Now we just need $100 million for the first phase 03-wink . All I want for compensation is 5 season tickets every year for life.

Would love to see something like this committed OC along with an establishment of a tax-deductible fund where supporters could begin to make contributions. Lots of avg Joe folks would contribute long term IMO. This type of support plus business support, wealthy donors, student fees & state education funds would build & finance operations. Additional revenues from game-day sales for concessions (gear, food & drink) & parking would sustain & maintain the facilities.

Just the commitment & process would give us the edge we need in B12 considerations. It would be a win for the university, its fans & the city.
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RE: Honest Question
(11-25-2014 10:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  [Image: ocs3_zpssm7h2rwh.jpg]

This was a simple cut and paste for the bottom part of the Liberty Bowl where the blue seats end so this is to scale. I think Tiger Lane is to scale but I can't remember. I made this a while back. Obviously Tiger Lane would have to be narrowed due to the limited land on the east side of Zach Curlin but really you could extend a Tiger Lane set up down the entire east side of Zach Curlin from Central to across from Campus School.

Sell the land across the street to a booster or the Highland Hundred so alcohol can be allowed on Tiger Lane. Unless the university can designate "non dry" parts of the campus. Build a giant parking garage in one part of the central parking lot that takes up half the lot, use the other half as the surface lot to allow tailgating.

We can build the bottom bowl and one deck first to create demand (+- 35k +- 12k = 47k) (This will be atleast 10 years from now so hopefully our attendance will be atleast a consistent 45k by then). Suites can go at the top of the bottom bowl all the way across each sideline. The upper decks will go on top of the suites, like Houston's new stadium. Once more seating is needed add the other side upper deck of +- 12k bringing capacity to around 59k. With suites included it'll be around 61k-62k. This will be a good size for us in the Big 12 04-rock

If the rotc buildings (that obviously get torn down in this scenario) need to go by the field/stadium build new buildings in the ellipse. They could use the stadium for training. I'm sure they'd love running stadium steps. If not a requirement they can be built elsewhere on campus and the ellipse can be used for additional tailgating, possibly the student area.

Put it on the master plan and set the goal at $10 million a year for 10 years and go from there. The Liberty Bowl is good for right now, that is why we make this a 10 year long term fundraising campaign for the future.

That was my contribution. Now we just need $100 million for the first phase 03-wink . All I want for compensation is 5 season tickets every year for life.

Just because you can cut and paste something in a picture does not mean it is feasible to build it there. Too many infrastructure issues that would prevent it from being built.
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RE: Honest Question
(11-24-2014 11:49 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:24 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 02:58 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I wonder how an OCS would be paid for? All private funding? If not, we should have a public referendum led by Heidi Schaeffer to gauge citywide interest in voting Yes or No to raising monies through public bonds to pay for it.

This sort of thinking is why our university doesn't have OC facilities. there should be no city involvement other than permitting in an OCS project. No public referendum, no public bonds, no voter involvement. It should be a state education project with private funding support.

Also an OCS provides much more in terms of game-day experience than a city off-campus facility. At UGA, for example, the campus bookstore adds $$millions to it revenue from game-day sales, concessions & parking. An OCS also would positively affect student & alumni attendance. Getting alumni back on campus is another benefit for the university & would translate directly to improved alumni financial support. The city would derive benefit indirectly from increased tax base from an improved surrounding commercial development (restaurants, hotels, entertainment) that would result from an OCS. And a commitment at this time would help our university's case as it competes for a potential B12 invitation - which adds a multiple to all of the above because we would see more attendance both for our university & the opponents fans/schools.

I call BS on this one. You are talking about 20,000 people spending $100 each or 2000 people spelling $1,000 each on game day. Many major department stores do not serve 2000 people per day.

I've seen financials at UGA of game-days sales. BTW they have 6 home FB games & 16 home BB games on campus to come to those totals, not one game.........& yes, its multiple millions for game-day sales, concessions & parking. You need to read the whole sentence. I've spent more than $100/game while attending our games this year just on concessions & parking for my wife & I.

LOL change the parameters when you are called on something. You said MILLION IN THE BOOKSTORE ON CAMPUS on game DAY not game days. Day is singular. You really need to read what you post before you post it.
11-25-2014 11:22 AM
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(11-24-2014 09:17 PM)JTS Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The Liberty Bowl is fine for another decade or so with all the renovations...we have 9-10 years to get all the financials and planning specifics taken care for so we can have an OCS by the time the Liberty Bowl becomes no longer viable.

I still want this...eventually (Walker and Patterson)
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Wow, look at all that parking!

So our 20,000 students all walk to campus? lol
11-25-2014 11:25 AM
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(11-24-2014 02:18 PM)What Wrote:  I am sure I can search here for why we will never get an on campus stadium. I am not against the LB. But what besides winning will help attendance? I believe some would-be fans are just sold against the LB.

The pro OCS group tends to leave out certain items in their discussion of revenue. They want to lay claim to the fact that we would get all the revenue from parking and concessions but leave out some details. Like we do not have to pay any of the cost to generate the revenue from these avenues. We do not pay a dime of the cost to hire the people to operate the concessions or the people who provide the security and collect the parking fees. Nor do we spend a dime to buy the concessions that are sold in the city owned concession stands. Nor do we cover a dime of the cost of storing these concessions from game to game. Nor a dime of the power it takes to operate these concessions. But we still get a percentage of the profit after a certain amount. Doesn't matter if we have 5,000 in the stand or 50,000 these operating cost still have to be paid. Currently we are not responsible for paying a single dime of any of these cost. This is not accounting for the 10s of million that would have to come from other campus construction projects to pay for parts of the cost of building the OCS.
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(11-25-2014 11:22 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 11:49 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:24 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 02:58 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I wonder how an OCS would be paid for? All private funding? If not, we should have a public referendum led by Heidi Schaeffer to gauge citywide interest in voting Yes or No to raising monies through public bonds to pay for it.

This sort of thinking is why our university doesn't have OC facilities. there should be no city involvement other than permitting in an OCS project. No public referendum, no public bonds, no voter involvement. It should be a state education project with private funding support.

Also an OCS provides much more in terms of game-day experience than a city off-campus facility. At UGA, for example, the campus bookstore adds $$millions to it revenue from game-day sales, concessions & parking. An OCS also would positively affect student & alumni attendance. Getting alumni back on campus is another benefit for the university & would translate directly to improved alumni financial support. The city would derive benefit indirectly from increased tax base from an improved surrounding commercial development (restaurants, hotels, entertainment) that would result from an OCS. And a commitment at this time would help our university's case as it competes for a potential B12 invitation - which adds a multiple to all of the above because we would see more attendance both for our university & the opponents fans/schools.

I call BS on this one. You are talking about 20,000 people spending $100 each or 2000 people spelling $1,000 each on game day. Many major department stores do not serve 2000 people per day.

I've seen financials at UGA of game-days sales. BTW they have 6 home FB games & 16 home BB games on campus to come to those totals, not one game.........& yes, its multiple millions for game-day sales, concessions & parking. You need to read the whole sentence. I've spent more than $100/game while attending our games this year just on concessions & parking for my wife & I.

LOL change the parameters when you are called on something. You said MILLION IN THE BOOKSTORE ON CAMPUS on game DAY not game days. Day is singular. You really need to read what you post before you post it.

Didn't change a thing, just read the sentence, Eng 101 regards........
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(11-25-2014 11:15 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 10:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  [Image: ocs3_zpssm7h2rwh.jpg]

This was a simple cut and paste for the bottom part of the Liberty Bowl where the blue seats end so this is to scale. I think Tiger Lane is to scale but I can't remember. I made this a while back. Obviously Tiger Lane would have to be narrowed due to the limited land on the east side of Zach Curlin but really you could extend a Tiger Lane set up down the entire east side of Zach Curlin from Central to across from Campus School.

Sell the land across the street to a booster or the Highland Hundred so alcohol can be allowed on Tiger Lane. Unless the university can designate "non dry" parts of the campus. Build a giant parking garage in one part of the central parking lot that takes up half the lot, use the other half as the surface lot to allow tailgating.

We can build the bottom bowl and one deck first to create demand (+- 35k +- 12k = 47k) (This will be atleast 10 years from now so hopefully our attendance will be atleast a consistent 45k by then). Suites can go at the top of the bottom bowl all the way across each sideline. The upper decks will go on top of the suites, like Houston's new stadium. Once more seating is needed add the other side upper deck of +- 12k bringing capacity to around 59k. With suites included it'll be around 61k-62k. This will be a good size for us in the Big 12 04-rock

If the rotc buildings (that obviously get torn down in this scenario) need to go by the field/stadium build new buildings in the ellipse. They could use the stadium for training. I'm sure they'd love running stadium steps. If not a requirement they can be built elsewhere on campus and the ellipse can be used for additional tailgating, possibly the student area.

Put it on the master plan and set the goal at $10 million a year for 10 years and go from there. The Liberty Bowl is good for right now, that is why we make this a 10 year long term fundraising campaign for the future.

That was my contribution. Now we just need $100 million for the first phase 03-wink . All I want for compensation is 5 season tickets every year for life.

Just because you can cut and paste something in a picture does not mean it is feasible to build it there. Too many infrastructure issues that would prevent it from being built.

Ok...I never said that made it "feasible". I said that meant it was "to scale"... And with 100-200 mil you could make it feasible. Next.
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Regardless of where the stadium would go, unless it's on South Campus, those poor equipment managers will still have to pack the truck and 100 player equipment bags for every home game. The life.
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(11-25-2014 11:15 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 10:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  [Image: ocs3_zpssm7h2rwh.jpg]

This was a simple cut and paste for the bottom part of the Liberty Bowl where the blue seats end so this is to scale. I think Tiger Lane is to scale but I can't remember. I made this a while back. Obviously Tiger Lane would have to be narrowed due to the limited land on the east side of Zach Curlin but really you could extend a Tiger Lane set up down the entire east side of Zach Curlin from Central to across from Campus School.

Sell the land across the street to a booster or the Highland Hundred so alcohol can be allowed on Tiger Lane. Unless the university can designate "non dry" parts of the campus. Build a giant parking garage in one part of the central parking lot that takes up half the lot, use the other half as the surface lot to allow tailgating.

We can build the bottom bowl and one deck first to create demand (+- 35k +- 12k = 47k) (This will be atleast 10 years from now so hopefully our attendance will be atleast a consistent 45k by then). Suites can go at the top of the bottom bowl all the way across each sideline. The upper decks will go on top of the suites, like Houston's new stadium. Once more seating is needed add the other side upper deck of +- 12k bringing capacity to around 59k. With suites included it'll be around 61k-62k. This will be a good size for us in the Big 12 04-rock

If the rotc buildings (that obviously get torn down in this scenario) need to go by the field/stadium build new buildings in the ellipse. They could use the stadium for training. I'm sure they'd love running stadium steps. If not a requirement they can be built elsewhere on campus and the ellipse can be used for additional tailgating, possibly the student area.

Put it on the master plan and set the goal at $10 million a year for 10 years and go from there. The Liberty Bowl is good for right now, that is why we make this a 10 year long term fundraising campaign for the future.

That was my contribution. Now we just need $100 million for the first phase 03-wink . All I want for compensation is 5 season tickets every year for life.

Just because you can cut and paste something in a picture does not mean it is feasible to build it there. There are infrastructure issues that would need to be resolved (as is the situation with ALL urban buildings) before being built.

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(11-25-2014 12:54 PM)thegoodlife92 Wrote:  Regardless of where the stadium would go, unless it's on South Campus, those poor equipment managers will still have to pack the truck and 100 player equipment bags for every home game. The life.

Haha. Sorry. The important people in this consideration are the students and the alumni.
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