Those of you who think they do are wrong.

Agreed. But don't be a dick to them.

So you can torture them G - Man?

(11-12-2014 11:23 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Agreed. But don't be a dick to them.

Or put one in them.

(11-12-2014 11:25 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So you can torture them G - Man?

Nope. That would be wrong. That should be punished.

(11-12-2014 11:25 AM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:23 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Agreed. But don't be a dick to them.

Or put one in them.

Why do you hate the culture of Pakistan? So insensitive.

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

Are you saying this from a philosophical position, or one citing the current legal status?

(11-12-2014 11:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

Are you saying this from a philosophical position, or one citing the current legal status?

Yes, I am.

I.e., both.

(11-12-2014 11:53 AM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

Are you saying this from a philosophical position, or one citing the current legal status?

Yes, I am.

I.e., both.

Some locales are changing their laws to include animal rights. You may disagree with that approach, but your claim is no longer universal.

(11-12-2014 11:54 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:53 AM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

Are you saying this from a philosophical position, or one citing the current legal status?

Yes, I am.

I.e., both.

Some locales are changing their laws to include animal rights. You may disagree with that approach, but your claim is no longer universal.

All I've seen are laws protecting animals from being abused. But I've not seen any laws that talk about the rights of animals. Have you?

As long as they aren't abused.

(11-12-2014 12:00 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  As long as they aren't abused.

Yes, but even abuse doesn't violate any right that an animal doesn't possess. Certainly abusing an animal is wrong. But it's not because abusing an animal violates some "right" of that animal.

The bigger question is WHY is abuse of an animal something that is wrong, to begin with?

And that brings up a second question, about if we're going to talk about abusing an animal, then killing it for our own pleasure (tastes good to us to consume its dead flesh) -- wouldn't that fall into the "abuse" category?

Bottom line is that animals are property of those who possess them legally. And the government passes laws about what you can/cannot do with your own property, for the good of society as a whole.

But it's not about the rights of your property.

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

^

Your an obsessive, and very strange, evangelical....

(11-12-2014 11:25 AM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:23 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Agreed. But don't be a dick to them.

Or put one in them.

^

(11-12-2014 12:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

^

Your an obsessive, and very strange, evangelical....

At least I have good news to share. And I also frequently (not always, but often) discuss issues within a post, using more than one line replies. To the contrary, you consistently, and most frequently, only have negative parroting points and half-sentence comebacks.

And you don't think logically, most of the time, either.

(11-12-2014 12:19 PM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 12:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

^

Your an obsessive, and very strange, evangelical....

At least I have good news to share. And I also frequently (not always, but often) discuss issues within a post, using more than one line replies. To the contrary, you consistently, and most frequently, only have negative parroting points and half-sentence comebacks.

And you don't think logically, most of the time, either.

I have no want to discuss the goings on of this thread...just to point out you're bat s@&$ crazy.

(11-12-2014 12:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 12:19 PM)G-Man Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 12:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 11:20 AM)G-Man Wrote:  Those of you who think they do are wrong.

^

Your an obsessive, and very strange, evangelical....

At least I have good news to share. And I also frequently (not always, but often) discuss issues within a post, using more than one line replies. To the contrary, you consistently, and most frequently, only have negative parroting points and half-sentence comebacks.

And you don't think logically, most of the time, either.

I have no want to discuss the goings on of this thread...just to point out you're bat s@&$ crazy.

You would think that. It's simply because you're a reprobate.

And also, if you REALLY don't "want to discuss the goings on of this thread" then prove it.

(11-12-2014 12:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I have no want to discuss the goings on of this thread...just to point out you're bat s@&$ crazy.

Do. Not. Do. This.

(11-12-2014 12:52 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(11-12-2014 12:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I have no want to discuss the goings on of this thread...just to point out you're bat s@&$ crazy.

Do. Not. Do. This.

When you start discussing, and I quote "Agreed. But don't be a dick to them...Or put one in them."

You have moved to crazy town...allowing threads like this: Do. Not. Do. This.

What are rights? Animals live and die in their environment.