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(11-09-2014 08:25 AM)EA3 Wrote:  Explain to me the logic behind rooting for Akron to win against buffalo?

I was pretty much looking at 6 loss teams only. So by Akron knocking off Buffalo, Buffalo becomes ineligible.

Akron's remaining schedule (4-5): @ Buffalo, vs. UMass, @ Kent St.
Buffalo's remaining schedule (3-6): vs. Akron, vs. Kent St., @ UMass

If Buffalo wins out and Akron loses to UB and beats UMass and Kent St.... both can become bowl eligible. I'd rather see Akron just knock out Buffalo now.

Of course there's also the scenario that they both do not become bowl eligible but that would require some upsets.

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Bowl Eligible (54 teams)
American: East Carolina, Memphis, Cincinnati
ACC: Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Big 12: Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma
Big 10: MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin
Ind.: Notre Dame
CUSA: Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Rice
MAC: WMU, CMU, NIU, BGSU, Toledo
M. West: Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Utah St.
PAC 12: Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Washington
SEC: Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M
Sun Belt: Georgia Southern*, Arkansas St., Louisiana-Lafayette

On the bubble -- 5-win teams (20 teams)
Houston, UCF, Temple, N.C. State, Oklahoma St., Texas, Rutgers, Michigan, MTSU, UAB, UTEP, BYU, San Diego St., Ohio, Stanford, California, Kentucky, LA-Lafayette, Texas St., and South Alabama.

Mathematically Eliminated (25 teams)
UConn, Iowa St., FIU, FAU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, SMU, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Ball St., Hawaii, UNLV, Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, Georgia St., UTSA, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, and Wake Forest.


*just for you todd!

Quote:Right, they are allowed to appeal. Therefore, I'm saying they're technically eligible.

They'll be fillers. If there's a shortage of bowl-eligible teams -- yeah, they'll fill in a spot. So if a layout is to see how many bowl-eligible teams there WILL be, then yeah, I think it's fair to put them in (with an asterisk).

However, a 6-6 Ohio team will be 1st in line of GA-Southern though. So if there IS more eligible teams than bowls, GA-Southern is SOL. I'd like to see them play against a 6-6 P5 school, don't get me wrong. But I believe they're only going to allowed to fill a spot that a 5-7 team would have to fill. Or MAYBE be treated on the 6-6 level at most if they end up with 10W.

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Bowl Eligible (61 teams*)
American: East Carolina, Memphis, Cincinnati, UCF
ACC: Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, N.C. State
Big 12: Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas
Big 10: MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn St., Rutgers
Ind.: Notre Dame, BYU
CUSA: Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Rice, UTEP
MAC: WMU, CMU, NIU, BGSU, Toledo
M. West: Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Utah St.
PAC 12: Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Washington
SEC: Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M
Sun Belt: Arkansas St., Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama, Georgia Southern*

On the bubble -- 5-win teams (21 teams)
Houston, Temple, Virginia Tech, UNC, Oklahoma St., Michigan, MTSU, UAB, Navy, San Diego St., Ohio, Stanford, California, Oregon St., Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, LA-Lafayette, Texas St., and Western Kentucky.

Mathematically Eliminated (34 teams)
UConn, Tulane, Iowa St., Kansas, Texas Tech, Indiana, FIU, FAU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, SMU, North Texas, Army, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Ball St., Hawaii, UNLV, New Mexico, San Jose St., Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, Georgia St., UTSA, UL-Monroe, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, and Wake Forest.

*just for you todd!

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Bowl Eligible (65 teams*)
American: East Carolina, Memphis, Cincinnati, UCF
ACC: Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, N.C. State, UNC
Big 12: Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas
Big 10: MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn St., Rutgers
Ind.: Notre Dame, BYU
CUSA: Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Rice, UTEP
MAC: WMU, CMU, NIU, BGSU, Toledo
M. West: Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Utah St., San Diego St.
PAC 12: Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Washington
SEC: Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M
Sun Belt: Arkansas St., Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama, Texas St., Georgia Southern*

On the bubble -- 5-win teams (19 teams)
Houston, Temple, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma St., Michigan, MTSU, UAB, Navy, Ohio, Akron, Stanford, California, Oregon St., Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, LA-Lafayette, and Western Kentucky.

Mathematically Eliminated (34 teams)
UConn, Tulane, Iowa St., Kansas, Texas Tech, Indiana, FIU, FAU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, SMU, North Texas, Army, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Ball St., Hawaii, UNLV, New Mexico, San Jose St., Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, Georgia St., UTSA, UL-Monroe, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, and Wake Forest.

*just for you todd!

Tell me what I need to root for in order for wmu to play Michigan in Detroit. It would make my year for us to beat them in a bowl to end the year. Not to mention that it would be close and easy to get to, and would pack ford field!

(11-22-2014 09:24 AM)brovol Wrote:  Tell me what I need to root for in order for wmu to play Michigan in Detroit. It would make my year for us to beat them in a bowl to end the year. Not to mention that it would be close and easy to get to, and would pack ford field!

Well in order for us to go to Detroit, we'd probably have to lose today...

...and lose again to NIU next week...

Then we'd need Michigan to win today.

Quote:Tell me what I need to root for in order for wmu to play Michigan in Detroit. It would make my year for us to beat them in a bowl to end the year. Not to mention that it would be close and easy to get to, and would pack ford field!

Actually, I don't think it'd really matter how we'd be shuffled around amongst the other MAC teams so much. I think the real problem would be, if a MAC team had to fill in for an ACC ream in the bowl, would be who would they choose? WMU, CMU, or Toledo to do it? Toledo's the closest, but across state lines. I guess it'd come down to what'd be more watchable on TV + draw more fans to the game.

Basically as of right now, you'd want NO more ACC teams allowed in (have their bubble teams bonk, like, Now) -- and yeah, have UM win today of course.

I think we will win one more game for sure, but what happens if we finish 7-5? we will still make a bowl right?

Yeah, we're in with 7 wins.

(11-22-2014 11:34 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  If a MAC team had to fill in for an ACC ream in the bowl, would be who would they choose? WMU, CMU, or Toledo to do it? Toledo's the closest, but across state lines.

I'm simply guessing here, but I assume the people who run the Quick Lane Bowl would prefer a team that didn't just play in Detroit for the MACC. I'd think the teams that end up playing in the MACC would prefer a different destination, too, instead of returning to Ford Field for a second straight game.

Well if Toledo wins the MACC, they're going to the GoDaddy Bowl by contract.

(11-22-2014 12:51 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 11:34 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  If a MAC team had to fill in for an ACC ream in the bowl, would be who would they choose? WMU, CMU, or Toledo to do it? Toledo's the closest, but across state lines.

I'm simply guessing here, but I assume the people who run the Quick Lane Bowl would prefer a team that didn't just play in Detroit for the MACC. I'd think the teams that end up playing in the MACC would prefer a different destination, too, instead of returning to Ford Field for a second straight game.

Not necessarily. BGSU went to the Pizza Bowl in Detroit last year after winning the MAC. I was surprised too as typically the MAC Champion goes to the GoDaddy Bowl.

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Bowl Eligible (74 teams*)
American: East Carolina, Memphis, Cincinnati, UCF, Houston
ACC: Florida St., Clemson, Boston College, Louisville, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, N.C. State, UNC
Big 12: Kansas St., TCU, Baylor, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas
Big 10: MSU, Ohio St., Maryland, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn St., Rutgers
Ind.: Notre Dame, BYU
C-USA: Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Rice, UTEP, MTSU, Western Kentucky
MAC: WMU, CMU, NIU, BGSU, Toledo, Ohio
M. West: Nevada, Colorado St., Boise St., Air Force, Utah St., San Diego St.
PAC 12: Oregon, Utah, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St., Washington, Stanford
SEC: Missouri, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Texas A&M, Florida, South Carolina, Arkansas
Sun Belt: Arkansas St., Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama, Texas St., App. St.*, Georgia Southern*

On the bubble -- 5-win teams (18 teams)
Temple, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Oklahoma St., Michigan, Northwestern, Illinois, UAB, Navy, Akron, Fresno St., California, Oregon St., Kentucky, and Tennessee.

Mathematically Eliminated (34 teams)
UConn, Tulane, Iowa St., Kansas, Texas Tech, Indiana, FIU, FAU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, SMU, North Texas, Army, UMass, Miami, Kent St., EMU, Ball St., Hawaii, UNLV, New Mexico, San Jose St., Washington St., Colorado, New Mexico St., Idaho, Troy, Georgia St., UTSA, UL-Monroe, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, and Wake Forest.

You'll want to modify this one Hoke...

- Ohio made it to bowl eligible last night, an hour after ya posted
- Western Kentucky is in CUSA now
- Take out LA-Lafayette out of the 5-win team area (you have them as bowl eligible too) -- they have 7 wins, most likely 8 after this weekend

Also, you could add Old Dominion to the 5-win team area with an * -- but they won't be bowl eligible at 6 wins unless there won't be enough teams. I can see why you didn't add them in. But if you're going to make App State "eligible", then with an asterisk such a FCS cross-over team would be "on the bubble".

# of 5 win teams who WILL make it:
- Virginia/VA-Tech winner
- NW/Illinois winner
- 2 Added

# of 5 win teams favored to make it to 6W:
- Temple (over Cinci OR @Tulane)
- Navy (over @S. Alabama OR Army)
- Akron (over @Kent)
- UAB (over @Southern Miss)
- Fresno St (over Hawaii)
- Tennessee (over @Vandy)
- California (over BYU)
- 6 Expected (Temple & Navy Definitely, 4/5 of the others expect)

Weeding out the "*" eligible teams (who would be back-end fillers only if need be):

- AAC : 5 (+1 Temple) = 6
- ACC: 10 [11 if Pitt beats @Miami-FL]
- B12: 6 [7 if OK-St beats Oklahoma]
- B10: 10 [11 if Mich beats @OSU]
- CUSA: 6 (+1 UAB) = 7 [Old Dominion expected added substitute beating @FL-Atl]
- IND: 2 (+1 Navy) = 3
- MAC: 6 [7 if Akron beats @Kent]
- MWest: 6 (+1 Fresno) = 7
- P12: 8 (+1 California) = 9 [10 if Oregon St beats Oregon]
- SEC: 11 (+1 Tennessee) = 12 [13 if Kentucky beats @Louisville]
- Sun Belt: 4 [2 others substitutes if not enough bowl eligible teams]

= 80 teams Expected
= 86 MAXIMUM
= 74 MINIMUM

Christmas in the Bahamas sounds very interesting

(11-26-2014 02:09 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  - Ohio made it to bowl eligible last night, an hour after ya posted
- Western Kentucky is in CUSA now
- Take out LA-Lafayette out of the 5-win team area (you have them as bowl eligible too) -- they have 7 wins, most likely 8 after this weekend

Good catches. Updated.

Another source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80..._the_teams

Georgia southern has been denied bowl waiver

Well, that sucks:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-denied/

Appalachian St. applied on Tuesday.