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RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against
(11-05-2014 11:11 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto = 04-jawdrop

Well plan on setting $2500 aside if you and your squeeze want to attend the Bahamas Bowl. We did Toronto on five bills.
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(11-05-2014 01:01 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 11:11 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto = 04-jawdrop

Well plan on setting $2500 aside if you and your squeeze want to attend the Bahamas Bowl. We did Toronto on five bills.

I'd love to... but not gonna happen with our first born coming just about any day now. I'll be rooting in spirit from Kalamazoo! COGS
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RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against
(11-05-2014 01:04 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 01:01 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 11:11 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto = 04-jawdrop

Well plan on setting $2500 aside if you and your squeeze want to attend the Bahamas Bowl. We did Toronto on five bills.

I'd love to... but not gonna happen with our first born coming just about any day now. I'll be rooting in spirit from Kalamazoo! COGS

Congrats man!!!
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(11-05-2014 09:34 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  I still believe a 7-5 Akron team gets picked over an 8-4 CMU team.

Really hoping Akron wins their remaining 3 games even more now.

I was wondering to myself last night whether I should be rooting for Akron or not.

There are 5(?) MAC tie-ins to bowls, and I was figuring that we'd want the MAC East side (beyond BG) to be as undesirable as possible. That'd supply us with BG, NIU, Toledo, WMU and CMU as "sure things."

It's been a while since I've studied the whole bowl scene calculations, though.
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RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against
(11-05-2014 01:04 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 01:01 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 11:11 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Speak for yourself... a night out on the town in Toronto = 04-jawdrop

Well plan on setting $2500 aside if you and your squeeze want to attend the Bahamas Bowl. We did Toronto on five bills.

I'd love to... but not gonna happen with our first born coming just about any day now. I'll be rooting in spirit from Kalamazoo! COGS

Congrats!!! 04-cheers
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Quote:I'd love to... but not gonna happen with our first born coming just about any day now. I'll be rooting in spirit from Kalamazoo!

Umm, we're not playing in a bowl "any day now"! :) It's not even Thanksgiving yet! Pop it out, throw a diaper on it, and get to the bowl! You gotta show the little tyke some MACtion right off the bat! :)

Quote:There are 5(?) MAC tie-ins to bowls, and I was figuring that we'd want the MAC East side (beyond BG) to be as undesirable as possible. That'd supply us with BG, NIU, Toledo, WMU and CMU as "sure things."

Yeah, BG-NIU-Toledo-WMU-CMU are all going to be 7+ wins.

I don't want Akron or Ohio going to a bowl if they muck it up and look lousy. Akron turned it over 5 times again. The way I see it -- if either gets to 7 wins at this point -- yes, then I DO want them going to a Bowl, because it will require them winning out the rest of the way (hot).

Akron & Ohio will need 7 wins to realistically fill in other bowls to get preference. If there's an opening for one of our 3 secondary tie-ins -- one of our 6-6 teams can't go if there's another team from another conference who is tied to it in any way who can at 7 wins and takes it.

So in the MAC tie-ins: 7-5 MAC teams have precedence over 6-6 MAC teams in who can be selected.
In other bowl associations for secondary fill-ins: 7-5 MAC teams have precedence over 6-6 teams from Other Conferences who are also associated as secondary fill-ins trying to get in; even if it's 6-6 UofM.
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(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Same here. There was a lot of activity in and around the hotel, and I ran into gobs of Bronco fans up and down Yonge Street.

I must've picked the wrong place to stay in Houston because it was like a ghost town with all the office buildings shut down for the holidays. The hotel was nowhere near any nightlife or activity. Other than seeing Dunn doing a jog around the block one morning, I saw few people.
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Quote:I must've picked the wrong place to stay in Houston because it was like a ghost town with all the office buildings shut down for the holidays

Gawd, I remember that night. I was tipsy and talked to Robin Hook at a club. Then walking in to the restaurant/bar (with the club on top) -- my friend was playing wingman for me with a gal I was putting on my [pop-the-collar] uber-charm, by talking to her friend who seemed way too quiet. The girls went upstairs to the club, and we didn't go until like an hour+ later shooting the sh!t with Rice people. Then, when we went up there -- we couldn't find the girls. He spotted mine for a bit... anyway, things were hazy, but I ended up charming a young gal when they turned on the lights, people were filing out, and I was lightly kissing this young gal -- and the original woman downstairs stared me down! Walking back to the hotel, my friend who was a wingman apparently had her friend all about him! The girl I originally talked to didn't want to have it. Ugh. Turnovers. Don't like them.
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The lesson there is, A bush in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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RE: November bowl implications - who to root for/against
(11-05-2014 02:24 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.

Same here. There was a lot of activity in and around the hotel, and I ran into gobs of Bronco fans up and down Yonge Street.

I must've picked the wrong place to stay in Houston because it was like a ghost town with all the office buildings shut down for the holidays. The hotel was nowhere near any nightlife or activity. Other than seeing Dunn doing a jog around the block one morning, I saw few people.

I agree with those who attended the International Bowl it was a great atmosphere and the Broncos traveled well for that game I remember the breakfast was sold out on game day. WMU spotted Cinci 24 points but came roaring back to tie the game...I thought sure we would win. We had a great room overlooking the playing field. Great food in town went to Wayne Gretzsky's place lots of Broncos everywhere. Too bad that bowl didnt make it. It was a good time...took the train from Windsor to Toronto that was a fun trip.
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Quote:The lesson there is, A bush in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Oooh, so that's how Hoekj has one on the way. He wisely followed the advice, I didn't. :)

Actually that night I was playing %-chances. The gal and I talked for a long while in the restaurant area, then me and my buddy went up to the club like we told them we would (but much later) -- couldn't find them in a big crowd for a while, so I figured my chances of finding her + garnering her interest in the last half hour of the club open was only about 10-20%, so I mine as well play some hurry-up-offense. Well, that turned into a Pick-6.
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(11-05-2014 02:24 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 09:58 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  I liked the International Bowl. It was a great weekend, great town, and it didn't drain tour bank account doing it.
Same here. There was a lot of activity in and around the hotel, and I ran into gobs of Bronco fans up and down Yonge Street.

That was a great bowl trip. I went with three friends - one of my favorite memories of the trip came when we went bar-hopping the night before the game. This was back when you could smoke indoors in Michigan. The first bar we went to, my buddy asks the bartender, "Hey, can I smoke in here?" The bartender looks at him and says, "What do you think?" My buddy says, "Oh, ok!" and starts to light up. The bartender shouts, "NO!" and basically chases our whole group out of the bar. Good times...

I'm still a little surprised that bowl game failed. We probably brought about 5K to that game, Cincinnati also brought a solid number of fans, and I think the overall attendance was around 25K. I remember the night we were out on the town talking to a number of Toronto natives who were curious about WMU and about the game. I think that bowl had a way better chance to succeed then the game in the Bahamas does. I expect that stadium to be a ghost town. I hope I'm wrong.
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(11-05-2014 02:30 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  Gawd, I remember that night. I was tipsy and talked to Robin Hook at a club. Then walking in to the restaurant/bar (with the club on top) -- my friend was playing wingman for me with a gal I was putting on my [pop-the-collar] uber-charm, by talking to her friend who seemed way too quiet. The girls went upstairs to the club, and we didn't go until like an hour+ later shooting the sh!t with Rice people. Then, when we went up there -- we couldn't find the girls. He spotted mine for a bit... anyway, things were hazy, but I ended up charming a young gal when they turned on the lights, people were filing out, and I was lightly kissing this young gal -- and the original woman downstairs stared me down! Walking back to the hotel, my friend who was a wingman apparently had her friend all about him! The girl I originally talked to didn't want to have it. Ugh. Turnovers. Don't like them.

The lesson I take away from this: never take points off the board. 03-nutkick
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I did a similar thing at a party I had at my house a long time ago. I bailed on one that I knew was interested in me for another that I liked better. I ended up marrying her.

Always go after what you want, don't just settle for the sure thing.
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Quote:The bartender shouts, "NO!" and basically chases our whole group out of the bar. Good times...

Those Canucks are good for nothing 'except hockey, eh?

Quote: I think that bowl had a way better chance to succeed then the game in the Bahamas does. I expect that stadium to be a ghost town. I hope I'm wrong.

The International Bowl was about as filled as you'd see Detroit. Longer drive, but gives people an excuse to go "International". Girls are hot in Canada. You'd think they'd be fat like Americans, but I guess they play a lot of hockey to burn off any potential hibernation coushin. I think also a lot of Toronto fans went because it was new -- when that faded -- I could see that you'd need at least one not-big-fan-base school close from NY/MI/Ohio/Penn -- or a P5 a big fan base that's not toooo far away.

I think the Bahamas Bowl is going to lack in fans - yep. But for the First one (like International Bowl) -- WMU may break 'er in with a not-so-bad crowd (not as good as Int Bowl of course).

Quote:The lesson I take away from this: never take points off the board.

Gawd, tell me about it. I should have hunted her down like a "hungry dog", instead of playing back (then opting to take it off the board).

Quote:I bailed on one that I knew was interested in me for another that I liked better. I ended up marrying her.

Well, I didn't bail on the gal -- but I played way too conservative to let it fade away -- which I thought it was doing, but I was wrong. The 'new' girl -- was an option sitting there that I didn't approach until the 2 minute warning coming. I reasonably didn't figure that the first girl who I let slip from solidification would be back ready to catch the ball(s) in the last couple minutes. It just symbolized our bad game against Rice. Sigh. Or that big dropped ball in the beginning, I should say.

Now, I have ditched the SAME girl two weeks in a row recently -- both good calls (but feel bad for the girl). My buddy Kinky Kurt and I went to this local bar and agreed to meet up with these two girls we know -- one I know well. Long story short, her friend thumped me in the balls (no lie) as she was being tipsy bouty-bouty with me. I ended up backing away, from that... there was a 3-set of cuter girls on the other part of the bar. One 'saves' me, then I tell the tall one that yes, my friend also needs saving. The original girls were pissed and left. We had fun with these 'saving angels'.

I told the girl I'll make it up to her, buy her drinks, etc. So Kinky Kurt and I go to the same bar the next weekend... told that girl I'd meet her at a more local one at the end of the night. She was there waiting, apparently. Me and him leave the bar to go to the one she's at -- but these two girls, one being Really Cute (who I said hi to earlier in the night) stop us on our way out and said if they could get a ride. Well, funny how that "r" word sounds when you've had a couple beers -- can't say no, right? We go to the bar where that same girl was waiting -- and WAS PISSED. Me and KK went over to his place with them both, hung out, etc. I still haven't apologized to that girl yet. I should probably text her now, actually.
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(11-05-2014 06:10 PM)Ubish Wrote:  I did a similar thing at a party I had at my house a long time ago. I bailed on one that I knew was interested in me for another that I liked better. I ended up marrying her.

Always go after what you want, don't just settle for the sure thing.

Sounds like something PJ would say! Coach ubish!
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Quote:Sounds like something PJ would say! Coach ubish!

LOL! #RTB!
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(11-05-2014 08:43 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 06:10 PM)Ubish Wrote:  I did a similar thing at a party I had at my house a long time ago. I bailed on one that I knew was interested in me for another that I liked better. I ended up marrying her.

Always go after what you want, don't just settle for the sure thing.

Sounds like something PJ would say! Coach ubish!

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(11-05-2014 06:10 PM)Ubish Wrote:  I did a similar thing at a party I had at my house a long time ago. I bailed on one that I knew was interested in me for another that I liked better. I ended up marrying her. Always go after what you want, don't just settle for the sure thing.

Generally, this is good policy. I think Todd was playing Cover 2 all the way, though, and ended up not covering anyone. 05-duck
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Quote:Generally, this is good policy. I think Todd was playing Cover 2 all the way, though, and ended up not covering anyone.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up. I was going by the whole mantra of "You cannot beat these guys playing man to man!"
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