(10-15-2014 06:50 AM)mac6115cd Wrote: 5 years is a bit too generous. You should start to see a marked improvement by year 3. By then, your recruits are sophomores and juniors and your "system" should be in place.
Look at ND. Last year was Kelly's 3rd year and if Golson hadn't messed up, they would have be title contenders - as they are this year.
Look at UT. Jones is in his 2nd year and UT is improving, but next year will be all his and they should be competing for division championships.
So, I don't expect a big improvement until Tubb's 3rd year - even though I really want it now. If it doesn't materialize, then I say cut him loose. But, you have to give a coach time.
What's going on now has zero impact on if UC gets an invitation to a P5 conference. We have too many positives to let one bad season matter.
We've been spoiled over the past 5 years but we have to be patient and support Tubbs and the team. Playing "musical coaches" will not produce a winning program.
UT is improving?!? Really? Might be b/c I live in Atlanta, i.e. heart of SECland, but the perspective is different down here. UT will NOT be competing for division championships next year. Other than a close win over S.Carolina last year he hasn't done jack squat in conference. He's gotten close to beating UGA and UF, but close ain't gonna cut it. Look for him to feel his seat warming next year....but i digress.
Rath is mos def entitled to his opinion, so I won't go into that.
All I'll say is I can't really understand why ppl are so fixated on this recruits for "Big East." That's just a meaningless statement. Go look at the standard deviation b/t avg recruit rankings and you'll see there's only a marginal difference. Our Big East brethren that have moved on aren't experiencing some substantial gain. It's all statistically insignificant....but i digress...again.
There's a talent problem here folks. The classes Butch brought in were busts. Go back and look at all the supposedly good classes/ recruits he brought in. They're either no longer on the team, or they're playing and they're part and parcel of the problem. I mean, who is THE signature Butch recruit? I could def be missing it, but there's no I. Pead, Pike, Celek, or any of the types of guys we can attribute to MD or BK.
like someone else said, even Bear Bryant would have a difficult time getting this cast of characters together.
That's not to say that coaching on the D side of things hasn't been horrible, cuz it has.....but rarely are things 100% attributable to one thing or the other. I think it's fair to say talent is a major contributor to UC's current woes.
mc