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RE: 2014-15 College Basketball Conference Preview: AAC
(10-20-2014 08:30 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
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(10-20-2014 08:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  SJ knows nothing about basketball

Should be the name of the AAC board.

Is he still with the agenda that Temple will suck this year?

Yup. He's gone on and on about Anthony Lee and what a tremendous loss he is, despite the fact that every Temple fan is ecstatic he's gone.

Sucked so bad Ohio State gladly took him off your hands 03-lmfao. It just shows the lack of knowledge if you really think a guy like that was your big problem. We had idiot fans happy to see Philly kid Mike Cook leave ECU to go start on top 10 Pitt teams too 07-coffee3 Total idiots. Guess those players at Houston that went to Oklahoma and the other Big 12 schools sucked too. Temple and Houston weren't good teams last year yet apparently these guys killing it for them actually sucked and it was better to lose them up the food chain since their back ups were actually far better. Ok.

Fine...I'll jump in here...

Do you want some actual basketball info on Temple???

1. The other Temple players hated playing with Anthony Lee last year. He was all about his stats and was regularly out of position on defense. Temple was going to lose multiple players to transfer if Lee didn't leave.

2. There were two main reasons Temple lost games last year. The first being defense. They had no interior defensive presence. Lee did not play defense at all against low post players...go take a look at the numbers for F/C post players against Lee...we are talking about double/double avg...When you don't have an interior defensive/rebounding player...the rest of the D suffers.

3. The second reason was lack of depth. Temple was playing with a limited roster with many 1st year starters/contributors...Dingle(got hurt), Decosey, Brown, Williams, and Watson all played key roles as basically 1st year big minute players. Half-way through the season they had a rotation of 8 players with two being walk-ons when the injury bug hit Dingle/Williams...This season they will have a rotation on 9, possibly 10 players and no walk-ons...Big difference there. Temple was in many games til the 10 min mark in the second half. The legs got tired after that.

6. Bond (transfer from Texas) is going to be a "dirty work" player...rebounds and defends extremely well. Something Temple really missed last year.

5. I have been told that Obi Enechionyia is "the real deal". Will play major minutes and is the best "big" Temple has had in a long time.

6. Josh Brown (former Rivals 150 pg) has a much improved jump shot. Has been impressive in practice.

7. Take this for what it is worth...but I have been told that the team is light years better than the team was last year...by multiple people.
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(10-14-2014 02:44 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
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(10-14-2014 01:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I guess we'll revisit this thread down the road, where someone will be eating crow.

03-yawn No need to. This is basketball. Crazy $hit like the 7 seed running to the championship obviously happen in this sport, and you should know. I'm just telling what it looks like on paper in October and you are kidding yourself if you think UConn is this slam dunk favorite to repeat/ or a sure bet contender/ or even a no doubt top 4 seed etc at this point.

Maybe if everything comes together but it could just as easily go the other way and I'd think that's the more likely at this point with so many new pieces. Look at SMU one of their McDonalds AA's did nothing as a freshman if you are counting on Hamilton to be a superstar, and I've seen Purvis in college, hopefully he's got better. Again just look at the previous two years. You had Drummond and Nappier one year and were a 9 seed and would have been bubble the year after if you were eligible. You don't look as sure a bet as SMU to me at this point to be in the top 25, no one does and a 10 type seed could be entirely possible for your team and that's nothing to frown at in a rebuilding year.

Of course you will always have the escape clause of what the definition of "go the other way" is; but from a common sense perspective, if you're saying that UConn is just as likely to fall to NIT status as make the NCAA tourney; I fail to see your logic.

Where did I say they were an NIT team? I haven't said that, but if they were it actually would be no less shocking IMO than them being top 5 or back in the final 4.

I picked a group of schools I expect to be around 35-70ish that are some of the last teams to get in the NCAA's at large or first in the NIT's. I actually would UConn and Memphis them at the top of that group if I had to order them. Pretty much exactly what I did in the original post meaning the would likely be one of the NCAA ones.

You were both 7 seeds last year, with senior laden teams that had been together for years. Good grief, is saying they are probably like a 9 or 10 type seed this year in a rebuilding year on paper that controversial. Seriously.

Memphis had 4 senior guards. Geron was with the team 1 season before the start of it and Dixon joined it last season. Pellom was a Senior transfer that was hurt pretty much the whole season who also joined just before the season started. Shaq was a Sophomore and Nichols was a freshman.

We were far from a senior laden team that had played together for years.

I don't know how good Memphis will be this season, but I do expect to make the tourney and not as a bubble team.
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Cincinnati will safely be in the tournament just as they have the previous four years under Cronin. Yes, Kilpatrick is a huge loss (understatement of the year) but this is an opportunity for very talented underclassmen, namely Kevin Johnson and Troy Caupain, to breakout. Caupain was great at moments last year as a freshman and should have a great year at point guard.

As far as losing Jackson, people tend to forget that Jackson was essentially an afterthought as a junior. He averaged about 4 points a game and didn't even start. Someone else will step up this year and Mick has a plethora of quality size, which he did not have last year.

I'm really really excited about this years team. They are bigger and more athletic than last years team and should be an incredible defensive squad. I expect to be safely in the tournament with the 2015-2016 season being the year UC is a serious national contender as the starting lineup this year will feature a freshman, two sophomores and two juniors.
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(10-21-2014 05:57 PM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Cincinnati will safely be in the tournament just as they have the previous four years under Cronin. Yes, Kilpatrick is a huge loss (understatement of the year) but this is an opportunity for very talented underclassmen, namely Kevin Johnson and Troy Caupain, to breakout. Caupain was great at moments last year as a freshman and should have a great year at point guard.

As far as losing Jackson, people tend to forget that Jackson was essentially an afterthought as a junior. He averaged about 4 points a game and didn't even start. Someone else will step up this year and Mick has a plethora of quality size, which he did not have last year.

I'm really really excited about this years team. They are bigger and more athletic than last years team and should be an incredible defensive squad. I expect to be safely in the tournament with the 2015-2016 season being the year UC is a serious national contender as the starting lineup this year will feature a freshman, two sophomores and two juniors.

Need to get past Harvard first lol. Jk
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(10-21-2014 08:00 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:33 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
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(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

03-lmfao Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

Giffey was not the starting PF. He played the 3.

Daniels was the PF.

This idea that Giffey played bigger than Daniels is beyond bizarre. Daniels was the post guy down low and handled the defensive duties in the low blocks as well. Giffey was more of a guard who could dribble and shoot on the perimeter.


Giffy was under the basket in the NCAA games I watched, absolutely, in the middle of the lane often. Regardless either way it changes nothing when an even skinnier 6-9, 195lb wing playing PF and center and Giffey is still playing minutes at PF and are clearly top 5 players on that team. Those spots are pretty interchangeable on defense anyway. Either way they both weren't "big" by any real comparison and they both logged many minutes in your post, (and both are gone now) while your true bigs with legit size were putting up very weak production when they were actually playing.

9ppg 6rpg and 3 in 38 minutes from the other three is not good.

Quote:Again, such bizarre posts.

As for UConn and big men, UConn has had an excellent run over the years with Jake Voskhul, Emeka Okafor, Jeff Adrien, Hasheem Thabeet (4 NBA guys right there), and even Alex Oriakhi in their 2011 championship year. UConn develops big men well. You should see where all 4 of those guys were ranked. None of them were top 50, and all of them made the NBA. We're seeing the same story play out with Brimah. Kid was not even top 100, and he is well on his way.

Not as bizzarre as this one comparing the likes of Jake Voskul to Brimah or trying to pass off Caluhon "developing" these guys while Ollie was playing NBA basketball with them. What did he have to do with that. What big has he developed? He barely got double digits out of the center position last year in 40 minutes.

Did it matter? No, that wasn't my entire point to the guy saying this was a big man league. UConn didn't win because of their "big" men.
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(10-22-2014 08:55 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(10-21-2014 08:00 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:33 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
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(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  03-lmfao Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

Giffey was not the starting PF. He played the 3.

Daniels was the PF.

This idea that Giffey played bigger than Daniels is beyond bizarre. Daniels was the post guy down low and handled the defensive duties in the low blocks as well. Giffey was more of a guard who could dribble and shoot on the perimeter.


Giffy was under the basket in the NCAA games I watched, absolutely, in the middle of the lane often. Regardless either way it changes nothing when an even skinnier 6-9, 195lb wing playing PF and center and Giffey is still playing minutes at PF and are clearly top 5 players on that team. Those spots are pretty interchangeable on defense anyway. Either way they both weren't "big" by any real comparison and they both logged many minutes in your post, (and both are gone now) while your true bigs with legit size were putting up very weak production when they were actually playing.

9ppg 6rpg and 3 in 38 minutes from the other three is not good.

Quote:Again, such bizarre posts.

As for UConn and big men, UConn has had an excellent run over the years with Jake Voskhul, Emeka Okafor, Jeff Adrien, Hasheem Thabeet (4 NBA guys right there), and even Alex Oriakhi in their 2011 championship year. UConn develops big men well. You should see where all 4 of those guys were ranked. None of them were top 50, and all of them made the NBA. We're seeing the same story play out with Brimah. Kid was not even top 100, and he is well on his way.

Not as bizzarre as this one comparing the likes of Jake Voskul to Brimah or trying to pass off Caluhon "developing" these guys while Ollie was playing NBA basketball with them. What did he have to do with that. What big has he developed? He barely got double digits out of the center position last year in 40 minutes.

Did it matter? No, that wasn't my entire point to the guy saying this was a big man league. UConn didn't win because of their "big" men.

If it wasn't for that skinny big man getting the shot and the foul at the end of regulation in the St. Joe's game, UCONN would've been gone in the first round.
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(10-22-2014 09:01 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 08:55 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(10-21-2014 08:00 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 07:33 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(10-20-2014 06:58 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

Giffey was not the starting PF. He played the 3.

Daniels was the PF.

This idea that Giffey played bigger than Daniels is beyond bizarre. Daniels was the post guy down low and handled the defensive duties in the low blocks as well. Giffey was more of a guard who could dribble and shoot on the perimeter.


Giffy was under the basket in the NCAA games I watched, absolutely, in the middle of the lane often. Regardless either way it changes nothing when an even skinnier 6-9, 195lb wing playing PF and center and Giffey is still playing minutes at PF and are clearly top 5 players on that team. Those spots are pretty interchangeable on defense anyway. Either way they both weren't "big" by any real comparison and they both logged many minutes in your post, (and both are gone now) while your true bigs with legit size were putting up very weak production when they were actually playing.

9ppg 6rpg and 3 in 38 minutes from the other three is not good.

Quote:Again, such bizarre posts.

As for UConn and big men, UConn has had an excellent run over the years with Jake Voskhul, Emeka Okafor, Jeff Adrien, Hasheem Thabeet (4 NBA guys right there), and even Alex Oriakhi in their 2011 championship year. UConn develops big men well. You should see where all 4 of those guys were ranked. None of them were top 50, and all of them made the NBA. We're seeing the same story play out with Brimah. Kid was not even top 100, and he is well on his way.

Not as bizzarre as this one comparing the likes of Jake Voskul to Brimah or trying to pass off Caluhon "developing" these guys while Ollie was playing NBA basketball with them. What did he have to do with that. What big has he developed? He barely got double digits out of the center position last year in 40 minutes.

Did it matter? No, that wasn't my entire point to the guy saying this was a big man league. UConn didn't win because of their "big" men.

If it wasn't for that skinny big man getting the shot and the foul at the end of regulation in the St. Joe's game, UCONN would've been gone in the first round.

Lots of other plays in that game as well..

He averaged 4ppg and 3rpg on the season. Had he played a larger role on your team over the course of that season over someone like Daniels who the other guy "says" was your post player or Giffey who logged a lot of minutes in the post as well that likely wouldn't have been a net positive and maybe not even make the NCAA's as a result because he had stinkers too. You seriously going to argue he was more important to last years team than Daniels or Giffey?
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(10-22-2014 09:09 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 09:01 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-22-2014 08:55 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
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(10-20-2014 07:33 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

Giffey was not the starting PF. He played the 3.

Daniels was the PF.

This idea that Giffey played bigger than Daniels is beyond bizarre. Daniels was the post guy down low and handled the defensive duties in the low blocks as well. Giffey was more of a guard who could dribble and shoot on the perimeter.


Giffy was under the basket in the NCAA games I watched, absolutely, in the middle of the lane often. Regardless either way it changes nothing when an even skinnier 6-9, 195lb wing playing PF and center and Giffey is still playing minutes at PF and are clearly top 5 players on that team. Those spots are pretty interchangeable on defense anyway. Either way they both weren't "big" by any real comparison and they both logged many minutes in your post, (and both are gone now) while your true bigs with legit size were putting up very weak production when they were actually playing.

9ppg 6rpg and 3 in 38 minutes from the other three is not good.

Quote:Again, such bizarre posts.

As for UConn and big men, UConn has had an excellent run over the years with Jake Voskhul, Emeka Okafor, Jeff Adrien, Hasheem Thabeet (4 NBA guys right there), and even Alex Oriakhi in their 2011 championship year. UConn develops big men well. You should see where all 4 of those guys were ranked. None of them were top 50, and all of them made the NBA. We're seeing the same story play out with Brimah. Kid was not even top 100, and he is well on his way.

Not as bizzarre as this one comparing the likes of Jake Voskul to Brimah or trying to pass off Caluhon "developing" these guys while Ollie was playing NBA basketball with them. What did he have to do with that. What big has he developed? He barely got double digits out of the center position last year in 40 minutes.

Did it matter? No, that wasn't my entire point to the guy saying this was a big man league. UConn didn't win because of their "big" men.

If it wasn't for that skinny big man getting the shot and the foul at the end of regulation in the St. Joe's game, UCONN would've been gone in the first round.

Lots of other plays in that game as well..

He averaged 4ppg and 3rpg on the season. Had he played a larger role on your team over the course of that season over someone like Daniels who the other guy "says" was your post player or Giffey who logged a lot of minutes in the post as well that likely wouldn't have been a net positive and maybe not even make the NCAA's as a result because he had stinkers too. You seriously going to argue he was more important to last years team than Daniels or Giffey?

Look I already pointed out to you where you were wrong, but you keep digging. Once again you keep ripping on Brimah, but you don't realize that Brimah was just a guy coming in off of the bench until deep into the NCAA tournament. Nolan was the starter. Olander and Brimah were just subs, which explains why Brimah' s stats were so low. Brimah eventually played longer stretches in the NCAA tournament, which is probably when you first noticed him; but Nolan was the starter.

Now what should scare the Hell out of you as a basketball fan is that Brimah will only be a sophomore and Nolan is a junior. Brimah has good upside, because he already played at a high level as an under weight freshman with minimal actual offensive skills. But the kid is a really good athlete that has no fear on the court competing against top national players.
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(10-22-2014 09:27 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Look I already pointed out to you where you were wrong, but you keep digging.

03-lmfao

Quote:Once again you keep ripping on Brimah, but you don't realize that Brimah was just a guy coming in off of the bench until deep into the NCAA tournament. Nolan was the starter. Olander and Brimah were just subs, which explains why Brimah' s stats were so low. Brimah eventually played longer stretches in the NCAA tournament, which is probably when you first noticed him; but Nolan was the starter.

and he didn't do jack either.

Nolan
3.3ppg
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in 14 minutes a game

Heck he played LESS than Brimah and did LESS as well. Olander did less than both as well and averaged 1 point something and 2 rebounds.

None of them did jack. That was the point. You don't need "bigs" to be doing "big" things in this league or even on a national level. UConn proved that. Just have a big guy standing there and doing nothing, not even the whole game many times time, while your 6' backcourt wins for you and a couple other skinny wings do their thing and cover the rest of the post minutes was as much their philosophy last year as anything.

Quote:Now what should scare the Hell out of you as a basketball fan is that Brimah will only be a sophomore and Nolan is a junior. Brimah has good upside, because he already played at a high level as an under weight freshman with minimal actual offensive skills. But the kid is a really good athlete that has no fear on the court competing against top national players.

I've not said anything about his potential, only that he or Smith were certainly not why UConn was winning this past year, and disagreed that this is a big Man's league when you got a team like UConn doing what they are doing with bigs doing nothing. Hey but I guess it really was as couple guys averaging 3 and 4 ppg and barely rebounding in 15 minutes a game that was driving them to the national title....07-coffee3
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SJ, Kuran going to be an impact player. Bet the house!!!
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RE: 2014-15 College Basketball Conference Preview: AAC
Just about everyone (pundit, fan of the game, etc) said that it was Shabazz and UCONN's defense that won the National Championship. While Shabazz and Boatright were stealing the ball, the bigs were altering shots in the paint. Michigan State, Florida, and Kentucky were held to the low/mid 50s. You're only kidding yourself if you don't think the length and wingspan of Nolan and Brimah affected what opponents did on offense. That won't be reflected in most stats, but it has a huge impact on the game.
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03-lmfao Ok. Shabazz actually wasn't carrying your team to the title, hell he nearly led you in rebounding and everything else. I'm wrong I guess, you can't win national titles behind great little college PG's like Shabazz or Kemba in the drivers seat. That's not ever happened in the modern college basketball or anything.

You guys take the skinny 7 footer that only blocks shots and fouls, and the other couple stiff you had that did even less, I'd rather have a great PG than any other position on the court. You got a great college PG or any great player with the ball in his hands the whole game and you always have a chance to be pretty good. That's proven and THAT was my only point.
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RE: 2014-15 College Basketball Conference Preview: AAC
(10-22-2014 10:22 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  03-lmfao Ok. Shabazz actually wasn't carrying your team to the title, hell he nearly led you in rebounding and everything else. I'm wrong I guess, you can't win national titles behind great little college PG's like Shabazz or Kemba in the drivers seat. That's not ever happened in the modern college basketball or anything.

You guys take the skinny 7 footer that only blocks shots and fouls, and the other couple stiff you had that did even less, I'd rather have a great PG than any other position on the court. You got a great college PG or any great player with the ball in his hands the whole game and you always have a chance to be pretty good. That's proven and THAT was my only point.

You still need bigs to win it all and UConn had that. Why you so hot and bothered?
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Brimah can be a stud and Temple will be dangerous.
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