(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

(10-19-2014 10:07 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Whats your point? Seriously all players go through hot and cold stretches. The guy started as an underclassmen most of that season for an ACC team and still shot 36% from 3 that year. You really think he's not going to help us.

The funny thing is UConn got a kid that shot 39% for an ACC team and scored 9 ppg and you seem to think that he is an example of someone who experienced some kind of freshman funk.

I'll tell you what's funky about Purvis: he played for one of the worst coaches in America. Gottfried is really beyond awful, which explains so many wolfpack departures.

Purvis improved by the mere fact that he now has one of the best coaches in America.

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

(10-20-2014 06:58 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Good input. The UCONN bigs are going to be vastly better. I love what I'm seeing from Brimah and Nolan.

Brimah is stronger, more mature, and way more athletic this year. He came in first in the annual 3.4 mile Husky Run in addition to putting on 20 pounds over the summer. He and Boatright are also this year's team captains.

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-mens...tml#page=1

(10-20-2014 06:58 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

(10-20-2014 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 01:46 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 12:23 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  SJ's contrasting posts (here vs 247) regarding Lebo's skill is pretty funny to read.

Nice try waffler

I did a search on my mentions of Lebo because I didn't know WTF you were even talking about and I haven't even mentioned the guy on this thread as far as anything other than what he said about Tyson last week.

I've been nothing but consistent on my stance on him. I give him credit where it's due and have pointed out his god awful rotations many times on these boards and how he's squandered wins, infact just a couple days ago.

(10-13-2014 11:37 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  I'm no Lebo lover, ask anyone. I think the guys squandered plenty of wins here the last three year but we did still have a good season just the year before last

http://csnbbs.com/thread-707811-post-112...id11243303

"waffler"... a guy can't have a different opinion? Nice twisting of my words btw. I've never really thought RPI is a good measure of success for a low ranked team. Anything beyond 100+ and nobody GAF. That's a fact. I've been pretty consistent in my stance that it's going to be tough to compete in this conference and that's probably a better measure of progress than RPI. No clue what you're talking about with the "waffling." It is pretty humorous to me how you can remember specific posts from months prior (apparently favorite them as I've seen you pull stuff on PI) and throw it back in people's faces as if situations never change.

It's frustrating as heck for anyone trying to carry on even semi-serious discussions. I could go on and on, but I'll just leave it at that since everyone knows.

I learn something every day. I had no clue these existed:
http://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/kelloggs-e...affle.html

(10-20-2014 07:55 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 01:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 01:46 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 12:23 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  SJ's contrasting posts (here vs 247) regarding Lebo's skill is pretty funny to read.

Nice try waffler

I did a search on my mentions of Lebo because I didn't know WTF you were even talking about and I haven't even mentioned the guy on this thread as far as anything other than what he said about Tyson last week.

I've been nothing but consistent on my stance on him. I give him credit where it's due and have pointed out his god awful rotations many times on these boards and how he's squandered wins, infact just a couple days ago.

(10-13-2014 11:37 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  I'm no Lebo lover, ask anyone. I think the guys squandered plenty of wins here the last three year but we did still have a good season just the year before last

http://csnbbs.com/thread-707811-post-112...id11243303

"waffler"... a guy can't have a different opinion? Nice twisting of my words btw. I've never really thought RPI is a good measure of success for a low ranked team. Anything beyond 100+ and nobody GAF. That's a fact. I've been pretty consistent in my stance that it's going to be tough to compete in this conference and that's probably a better measure of progress than RPI. No clue what you're talking about with the "waffling." It is pretty humorous to me how you can remember specific posts from months prior (apparently favorite them as I've seen you pull stuff on PI) and throw it back in people's faces as if situations never change.

It's frustrating as heck for anyone trying to carry on even semi-serious discussions. I could go on and on, but I'll just leave it at that since everyone knows.

I learn something every day. I had no clue these existed:
http://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/kelloggs-e...affle.html

So what did this post add to the discussion? Seriously, explain it to me. I am actually trying to have a serious on topic discussion. Blunderbuss was the one coming after me from the start of those quotes even making up crap that's not even on this thread, seriously I searched it. Search it yourself if you want to see the problem.

You need to open your eyes and stop derailing threads if you think it's me. It's just as much if not more you and guys like you with worthless crap like this and you and guys like you that are the problem. What was the point of linking eggo waffles? It's and even bigger joke when the sentence above it you are whining about having a serious discussion. LOL

Not one post above it I have a very detailed fact based assessment ON TOPIC until people like you come at me with crap like this. I haven't seen one post from people like you with one tenth the content much less topic. Just a lot of B and moaning and on line shots.

SJ knows nothing about basketball

(10-20-2014 08:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  SJ knows nothing about basketball

Should be the name of the AAC board.

(10-20-2014 08:11 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  SJ knows nothing about basketball

Should be the name of the AAC board.

Is he still with the agenda that Temple will suck this year?

So SJ...why is UCONN ranked 15th preseason while SMU is ranked 22nd...especially when you think only SMU is a lock for the NCAA tourney?

I think Houston, especially with their new coach (who I've always liked), is going to be dancing this year. They had the pieces and now that they have Sampson to pull it all together...very exciting. This is a top quality basketball conference.

(10-20-2014 08:14 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:11 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  SJ knows nothing about basketball

Should be the name of the AAC board.

Is he still with the agenda that Temple will suck this year?

Yup. He's gone on and on about Anthony Lee and what a tremendous loss he is, despite the fact that every Temple fan is ecstatic he's gone.

(10-20-2014 08:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  So SJ...why is UCONN ranked 15th preseason while SMU is ranked 22nd...especially when you think only SMU is a lock for the NCAA tourney?

That's assuming Kennedy is eligible first off. That's new info.

To your other point, it's preseason and you just won the national title. Even if you lost major parts off that team, and have never actually seen your impact newcomer on a college court, you are going to get some benifiet of doubt until you prove otherwise. Make sense? It doesn't mean you won't have bumps along the way. Kentucky was #1 last preseason and an 8 seed who barely got by the 2nd round.

I could give you plenty of other examples of ranked preseason teams that not only were 8-11 type seeds like I said I thought you would be but that BOMBED and had losing seasons even.

(10-20-2014 08:23 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:14 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:11 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:08 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  SJ knows nothing about basketball

Should be the name of the AAC board.

Is he still with the agenda that Temple will suck this year?

Yup. He's gone on and on about Anthony Lee and what a tremendous loss he is, despite the fact that every Temple fan is ecstatic he's gone.

Sucked so bad Ohio State gladly took him off your hands . It just shows the lack of knowledge if you really think a guy like that was your big problem. We had idiot fans happy to see Philly kid Mike Cook leave ECU to go start on top 10 Pitt teams too Total idiots. Guess those players at Houston that went to Oklahoma and the other Big 12 schools sucked too. Temple and Houston weren't good teams last year yet apparently these guys killing it for them actually sucked and it was better to lose them up the food chain since their back ups were actually far better. Ok.

(10-20-2014 08:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 08:15 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  So SJ...why is UCONN ranked 15th preseason while SMU is ranked 22nd...especially when you think only SMU is a lock for the NCAA tourney?

That's assuming Kennedy is eligible first off. That's new info.

To your other point, it's preseason and you just won the national title. Even if you lost major parts off that team, and have never actually seen your impact newcomer on a college court, you are going to get some benifiet of doubt until you prove otherwise. Make sense? It doesn't mean you won't have bumps along the way. Kentucky was #1 last preseason and an 8 seed who barely got by the 2nd round.

I could give you plenty of other examples of ranked preseason teams that not only were 8-11 type seeds like I said I thought you would be but that BOMBED and had losing seasons even.

Just wanted to hear your take on it. We shall see. I will say though that I feel very confident in this team. One of my favorite teams to be honest. I don't think I've ever been more excited for college ball to begin. All I can say is look out for Brimah. He's gonna be smarter on the defensive side and much more productive on offense this season. He is this year's x factor IMO.

(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-15-2014 07:16 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong but the AAC seems to be a big mans league. If you don't have a physical back court and a solid PG, then you will get beat.

Memphis last year played thru the guards but this year we will play thru the bigs.

UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

Most people who watch and have some insight tend to know the key players on the national championship team. It's not that hard.

(10-19-2014 04:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Nichols is a stud. Memphis will be top 25 after they knock off Wichita State to open their season.

LOL. Memphis could lose that game by 20+. We have 9 new players. Only Goodwin, Nichols, King and Iverson are returning.

WSU has 4 starters returning from a 35-1 team, that lost by 2 to Kentucky in the NCAAs.

(10-20-2014 07:33 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 06:58 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 06:36 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-20-2014 04:51 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 08:15 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  UConn was smaller and skinny last year driven to the championship by a couple of 6' guards in the backcourt and a skinny 6-9 wing that played 4 for them. Grify or whatever his name was played a lot of center for them in crunch time too and he was about 6-7. The one 7' guy I remember was slim as well and didn't do much but block shots. Obviously plenty of ways to win but I'd rather have a great backcourt myself in college basketball.

Oh brother, from this description alone I can tell you don't watch much college basketball.

Sure bro and yours leaves me questioning what basketball you are watching in 2014.

UConn used three Centers last year, namely Phillip Nolan, Tyler Olander and Amida Brimah. You were speaking of Brimah in your earlier post, but near the end of the year Nolan was the starter for the most part and Brimah and Olander were the subs.

To the best of my knowledge Giffeyy and Daniels only played Center when opponents matchups or foul trouble by Nolan, Brimah or Olander made Ollie go small. Goiing small was something that UConn typically didn't do, because Giffey was "6'7", Daniels was "6'9", Nolan and Olander were "6'10" and Brimah was "7'0".

Giffey was still in the post as the starting at PF as a 6-7, 205 (per ESPN) and playing the most in the tourny. He routinely logged minutes at Center even when their bigs had fouls to give as well.

National title game Giffey starts at PF plays 37 mintues. Nolan and Briamh combined for 32 mintues. That means Giffey was at Center 8 of those minutes, and 195lb Daniels would have been moved to PF (6-9, 195) when he was as well.

The game vs Florida Nolan, Olander and Briam combine for 32 mintues. Daniels plays 40 and Griffey plays 23. That measn Giffey plays the other 8 at Center and Daniels is at PF 25 mintues.

Iowa State and Nova in the tourny Giffey logged 11 and 14 mintues at Center respectively as well.

Hard to say it's a big man league, or bigs are SO important when the defending national champ had a 6-7, 205lb guy playing in the post was just about led in rebounding by a 6' PG and the guys with any legit size Briahm, Nolan, Olander all three combined to only average like 9 ppg 6 rebounds and 3 blocks combined in 38 minutes. That's pedestrian and It's pretty clear who the heart and soul the best team in the league.

Hell even when they had one of the best big men in the world in Andre Drummond 2 years he sure wasn't carrying them.

Giffey was not the starting PF. He played the 3.

Daniels was the PF.

This idea that Giffey played bigger than Daniels is beyond bizarre. Daniels was the post guy down low and handled the defensive duties in the low blocks as well. Giffey was more of a guard who could dribble and shoot on the perimeter.

Again, such bizarre posts.

As for UConn and big men, UConn has had an excellent run over the years with Jake Voskhul, Emeka Okafor, Jeff Adrien, Hasheem Thabeet (4 NBA guys right there), and even Alex Oriakhi in their 2011 championship year. UConn develops big men well. You should see where all 4 of those guys were ranked. None of them were top 50, and all of them made the NBA. We're seeing the same story play out with Brimah. Kid was not even top 100, and he is well on his way.