(10-07-2014 06:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

With all that the University is doing in terms of facilities & upgrades, the idea that we could be in position to have a Top 25 football team and Basketball team seems to put us as the "hard to argue against" candidate for the B12. In other words, if we position ourselves to be one of (if not the) best football teams in the AAC, to go with our basketball team at least maintaining where they've been the last few years (I think b-ball is about to go on a little upswing, IMO, for what it's worth), then it would make us as THE logical school to pick up in future expansion. It's nice to start seeing the fruits of the work that the University has put into football beginning to pay off. And don't forget the strides we have made on the academic side, along with the non-athletic facility upgrades we have made on campus. We are, without a doubt, positioning ourselves for a brighter future. Keep up the work, and I believe the day will come where we are part of the "power" conferences, whatever that may look like.

(10-07-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:12 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I still think that ole Jackie Sherrill was on the money with his 16 team conference prediction. I cant remember if he said 4 or 5 conferences but I'm hoping the current P5 all eventually expand to 16 institutions because that creates 80 slots. I think Memphis would be one of the 80. The BIG 12 seems like the best fit geographically (chuckle).

I know that's a popular theory, but what is the compelling reason for each conference to get to 16 teams? The whole purpose of realignment is to consolidate the money and power.

I think it's possible that some P5 conferences will expand, but not necessarily to 16. And even then, they would be looking to steal other P5 teams, either from the B12 or the ACC, if possible.

In that case, it would be likely that they would just have 4 conferences instead of 5, with the same teams, similar to what happened to the Big East.

Look at the formation of the BCS in 1996. There were 63 teams + Notre Dame, in 6 conferences designated as AQ. Now, with all the realignment, we have 65 teams + ND, in 5 conferences.

The next iteration most likely would be 64 teams + ND in 4 conferences. There's your 16 team conferences, lol. But the number of conferences shrinks by one again, so the teams remain essentially the same.

I think at the end of the day, no matter how this shakes out, we will remain a "bubble" team in conference realignment. This feels like an agonizingly long selection Sunday for the NCAA Tournament in Men's BB.

It's all about supporting the team and having a good time. With Tiger lane and the great sight lines at the LB it's all good.

(10-06-2014 11:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:23 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

So there's still a chance?

You're lucky Puig has forgotten how to hit in the NLDS.

He's facing Cardinal pitching, baby.
Different animal. Different level. Especially in the playoffs.

(10-07-2014 09:22 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:23 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

So there's still a chance?

You're lucky Puig has forgotten how to hit in the NLDS.

He's facing Cardinal pitching, baby.
Different animal. Different level. Especially in the playoffs.

Ntr

(10-07-2014 09:20 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  It's all about supporting the team and having a good time. With Tiger lane and the great sight lines at the LB it's all good.

Don't forget the AIRPORT!!! What a hub of commerce and valuable asset to the University!!! Somebody make a flyer...

(10-07-2014 09:12 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

With all that the University is doing in terms of facilities & upgrades, the idea that we could be in position to have a Top 25 football team and Basketball team seems to put us as the "hard to argue against" candidate for the B12. In other words, if we position ourselves to be one of (if not the) best football teams in the AAC, to go with our basketball team at least maintaining where they've been the last few years (I think b-ball is about to go on a little upswing, IMO, for what it's worth), then it would make us as THE logical school to pick up in future expansion. It's nice to start seeing the fruits of the work that the University has put into football beginning to pay off. And don't forget the strides we have made on the academic side, along with the non-athletic facility upgrades we have made on campus. We are, without a doubt, positioning ourselves for a brighter future. Keep up the work, and I believe the day will come where we are part of the "power" conferences, whatever that may look like.

Couldn't agree more --- and I'll add to your above that Memphis is a top 10 college TV market AND a prime recruiting area. Important considerations in this era of realignment.

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

I agree. Someone is playing fast and loose with the truth here in the report.

(10-07-2014 09:25 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

With all that the University is doing in terms of facilities & upgrades, the idea that we could be in position to have a Top 25 football team and Basketball team seems to put us as the "hard to argue against" candidate for the B12. In other words, if we position ourselves to be one of (if not the) best football teams in the AAC, to go with our basketball team at least maintaining where they've been the last few years (I think b-ball is about to go on a little upswing, IMO, for what it's worth), then it would make us as THE logical school to pick up in future expansion. It's nice to start seeing the fruits of the work that the University has put into football beginning to pay off. And don't forget the strides we have made on the academic side, along with the non-athletic facility upgrades we have made on campus. We are, without a doubt, positioning ourselves for a brighter future. Keep up the work, and I believe the day will come where we are part of the "power" conferences, whatever that may look like.

Couldn't agree more --- and I'll add to your above that Memphis is a top 10 college TV market AND a prime recruiting area. Important considerations in this era of realignment.

One of the reasons the B1G seems to be having problems on the field. Important when getting your teams in the playoff.

(10-07-2014 06:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 12:42 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Big 12 isn't gonna go from 10 to 14. Without BYU. First 2 adds will be Cincy and Memphis.

If BYU wants in 1 other AAC team will get an invite to get to 14. It won't be ECU. More than likely UCF.

There is always a possibility the B12 will add teams, for whatever reason, at some time in the future. But right now, it doesn't look likely, and not necessarily the ones most message board posters ever consider.

Early this year, the other P5 conferences, and then ESPN and Fox, put pressure on the B12 to add 2 teams to get to a CCG, b/c the other P5 conferences felt a lack of a CCG gave the B12 an advantage in getting into the new playoffs.

The B12 started a screening process, and eventually got it down to 4 candidates, for 2 spots: Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU and Houston. We were told that Cincy was a lock, and we were fighting it out for the second spot with the other two. The B12 was split, with most of the non-Texas schools wanting us, and the Texas schools wanting either Houston or SMU. But there weren't enough votes on either side yet, to break the deadlock.

Unfortunately, before the deadlock could be broken, a proposal was made by the ACC petitioning the NCAA to change the existing rules requiring conferences to have 12 teams and 2 divisions to conduct a CCG, and simply let conferences decide their champion by whatever method they prefer.

This proposal has been included as part of the new autonomy package, and is expected to pass with the overall vote in November. B12 commish Bowlsby has said publicly that they support that proposal, b/c it would allow them to remain at 10 teams, and still conduct a CCG.

And that killed the push, for now, to add two teams.

But we did learn things during that process. First, they were ONLY going to add TWO teams, and go to 12, NOT 14 or 16.

Second, the final 4 were Memphis, Cincy, SMU and Houston.

I'm not sure what other teams were considered, but I was told by one source that Tulane and Rice were also considered. I could find no mention from anyone that UConn, ECU, UCF, USF or BYU were seriously considered, or even considered at all.

And in the end, it was about to boil down to Cincy + either Memphis or a Texas team. Much different than what most message board posters always assume.

I would hope that if the subject comes up again with the B12, for whatever reason, they will still have the same mindset.

Meanwhile, all we can do is keep winning, keep supporting the football team, and have the admin continue to keep up with facilities.

One other interesting point. Basketball apparently had no influence on this decision. It was all about football, budgets and facilities.

Excellent stuff. We were so close yet so far...

(10-07-2014 06:48 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 12:42 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Big 12 isn't gonna go from 10 to 14. Without BYU. First 2 adds will be Cincy and Memphis.

If BYU wants in 1 other AAC team will get an invite to get to 14. It won't be ECU. More than likely UCF.

There is always a possibility the B12 will add teams, for whatever reason, at some time in the future. But right now, it doesn't look likely, and not necessarily the ones most message board posters ever consider.

Early this year, the other P5 conferences, and then ESPN and Fox, put pressure on the B12 to add 2 teams to get to a CCG, b/c the other P5 conferences felt a lack of a CCG gave the B12 an advantage in getting into the new playoffs.

The B12 started a screening process, and eventually got it down to 4 candidates, for 2 spots: Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU and Houston. We were told that Cincy was a lock, and we were fighting it out for the second spot with the other two. The B12 was split, with most of the non-Texas schools wanting us, and the Texas schools wanting either Houston or SMU. But there weren't enough votes on either side yet, to break the deadlock.

Unfortunately, before the deadlock could be broken, a proposal was made by the ACC petitioning the NCAA to change the existing rules requiring conferences to have 12 teams and 2 divisions to conduct a CCG, and simply let conferences decide their champion by whatever method they prefer.

This proposal has been included as part of the new autonomy package, and is expected to pass with the overall vote in November. B12 commish Bowlsby has said publicly that they support that proposal, b/c it would allow them to remain at 10 teams, and still conduct a CCG.

And that killed the push, for now, to add two teams.

But we did learn things during that process. First, they were ONLY going to add TWO teams, and go to 12, NOT 14 or 16.

Second, the final 4 were Memphis, Cincy, SMU and Houston.

I'm not sure what other teams were considered, but I was told by one source that Tulane and Rice were also considered. I could find no mention from anyone that UConn, ECU, UCF, USF or BYU were seriously considered, or even considered at all.

And in the end, it was about to boil down to Cincy + either Memphis or a Texas team. Much different than what most message board posters always assume.

I would hope that if the subject comes up again with the B12, for whatever reason, they will still have the same mindset.

Meanwhile, all we can do is keep winning, keep supporting the football team, and have the admin continue to keep up with facilities.

One other interesting point. Basketball apparently had no influence on this decision. It was all about football, budgets and facilities.

Assuming that pushing into new top TV and recruiting markets is a priority I'd have to wonder why the Big 12 will still consider more Texas teams --- especially now that Memphis is finally paying real attention to it's football side.

Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

(10-07-2014 10:44 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

(10-07-2014 10:44 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

Our neighborhood SEC schools would be totally against it and would vote it down

(10-07-2014 10:44 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

Why not throw in a pony as long as you're wishing?

(10-07-2014 09:58 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:25 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

With all that the University is doing in terms of facilities & upgrades, the idea that we could be in position to have a Top 25 football team and Basketball team seems to put us as the "hard to argue against" candidate for the B12. In other words, if we position ourselves to be one of (if not the) best football teams in the AAC, to go with our basketball team at least maintaining where they've been the last few years (I think b-ball is about to go on a little upswing, IMO, for what it's worth), then it would make us as THE logical school to pick up in future expansion. It's nice to start seeing the fruits of the work that the University has put into football beginning to pay off. And don't forget the strides we have made on the academic side, along with the non-athletic facility upgrades we have made on campus. We are, without a doubt, positioning ourselves for a brighter future. Keep up the work, and I believe the day will come where we are part of the "power" conferences, whatever that may look like.

Couldn't agree more --- and I'll add to your above that Memphis is a top 10 college TV market AND a prime recruiting area. Important considerations in this era of realignment.

One of the reasons the B1G seems to be having problems on the field. Important when getting your teams in the playoff.

And a great facility for a rotating conference basketball tournament.

(10-07-2014 09:25 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:12 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

With all that the University is doing in terms of facilities & upgrades, the idea that we could be in position to have a Top 25 football team and Basketball team seems to put us as the "hard to argue against" candidate for the B12. In other words, if we position ourselves to be one of (if not the) best football teams in the AAC, to go with our basketball team at least maintaining where they've been the last few years (I think b-ball is about to go on a little upswing, IMO, for what it's worth), then it would make us as THE logical school to pick up in future expansion. It's nice to start seeing the fruits of the work that the University has put into football beginning to pay off. And don't forget the strides we have made on the academic side, along with the non-athletic facility upgrades we have made on campus. We are, without a doubt, positioning ourselves for a brighter future. Keep up the work, and I believe the day will come where we are part of the "power" conferences, whatever that may look like.

Couldn't agree more --- and I'll add to your above that Memphis is a top 10 college TV market AND a prime recruiting area. Important considerations in this era of realignment.

We also have a bowl game to offer and a great facility for a rotating conference basketball tournament.

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Many factors driving realignment are beyond the control of the average fan, but we can have an influence. We can do our part by buying season tickets, donating to TSF and special projects, and attending games as time and means permit.

(10-07-2014 11:36 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:44 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

Why not throw in a pony as long as you're wishing?

dayum..I thought you said throw a party.

(10-07-2014 10:44 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Memphis should be pushing for SEC, and SEC would gain a great school.

Is your last name Johnson?