What this league has to worry about right now is ECU, UC, UCF and USF going to the Big 12 to help create an East Division and get a conference championship game. Details are still very sketchy, but it appears the doors have finally opened to the Big 12 finding regional teams for WVU to assist with travel and also establish a long sought after Florida footprint for the league. Multiple sources have suggested that Mike Aresco is already trying to renegotiate the American's current TV deal for the league in an effort to keep these teams in the conference with more money and a possible Grant of Rights. But Aresco's response is reportedly forcing the hand of the Big 12 even faster.

That is expected to unfold within the next four weeks and isn't something American fans should worry about at the moment.

Part of article on the AAC teams and Memphis beat down of Cincy

http://www.bcsnn.com/aac/777-memphis-sho...nment.html

(10-06-2014 10:25 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  What this league has to worry about right now is ECU, UC, UCF and USF going to the Big 12 to help create an East Division and get a conference championship game. Details are still very sketchy, but it appears the doors have finally opened to the Big 12 finding regional teams for WVU to assist with travel and also establish a long sought after Florida footprint for the league. Multiple sources have suggested that Mike Aresco is already trying to renegotiate the American's current TV deal for the league in an effort to keep these teams in the conference with more money and a possible Grant of Rights. But Aresco's response is reportedly forcing the hand of the Big 12 even faster.

That is expected to unfold within the next four weeks and isn't something American fans should worry about at the moment.

Part of article on the AAC teams and Memphis beat down of Cincy

http://www.bcsnn.com/aac/777-memphis-sho...nment.html

Nice reporting here.

Somebody needs to inform Colorado State and the Mountain West that they are a Big 5 conference now

lol, bcsnn.com with the breaking news...not!

Saw this earlier today and USF makes no sense in the scenario. UCF has tremendous up-side...but USF? The Big12 is not that desperate...yet. I believe we have a much better shot than the Bulls. A TV market in the heart of the SEC seems more advantageous if competition is really the name of the game.

But I'm no TV exec, so what do I know?

That's why I put up a question mark but perhaps 'some' of this is true and at least the B12 is looking into it

(10-06-2014 10:51 PM)jaaaasonl Wrote:  Saw this earlier today and USF makes no sense in the scenario. UCF has tremendous up-side...but USF? The Big12 is not that desperate...yet. I believe we have a much better shot than the Bulls. A TV market in the heart of the SEC seems more advantageous if competition is really the name of the game.

But I'm no TV exec, so what do I know?

ECU
UCF
Cincy
Memphis

?

NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

So there's still a chance?

(10-06-2014 11:23 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

So there's still a chance?

You're lucky Puig has forgotten how to hit in the NLDS.

(10-06-2014 11:23 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  NO WAY. THIS IS COMPLETE CRAP.

So there's still a chance?

Not a chance. He said COMPLETE crap.

That idea had a very short shelf life.

(10-06-2014 11:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  That idea had a very short shelf life.

It got what it deserved.

And no disrespect in any way to the OP. That story just happens to be whack.

(10-06-2014 11:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 11:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  That idea had a very short shelf life.

It got what it deserved.

And no disrespect in any way to the OP. That story just happens to be whack.

good.

Big 12 isn't gonna go from 10 to 14. Without BYU. First 2 adds will be Cincy and Memphis.

If BYU wants in 1 other AAC team will get an invite to get to 14. It won't be ECU. More than likely UCF.

(10-07-2014 12:42 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Big 12 isn't gonna go from 10 to 14. Without BYU. First 2 adds will be Cincy and Memphis.

If BYU wants in 1 other AAC team will get an invite to get to 14. It won't be ECU. More than likely UCF.

There is always a possibility the B12 will add teams, for whatever reason, at some time in the future. But right now, it doesn't look likely, and not necessarily the ones most message board posters ever consider.

Early this year, the other P5 conferences, and then ESPN and Fox, put pressure on the B12 to add 2 teams to get to a CCG, b/c the other P5 conferences felt a lack of a CCG gave the B12 an advantage in getting into the new playoffs.

The B12 started a screening process, and eventually got it down to 4 candidates, for 2 spots: Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU and Houston. We were told that Cincy was a lock, and we were fighting it out for the second spot with the other two. The B12 was split, with most of the non-Texas schools wanting us, and the Texas schools wanting either Houston or SMU. But there weren't enough votes on either side yet, to break the deadlock.

Unfortunately, before the deadlock could be broken, a proposal was made by the ACC petitioning the NCAA to change the existing rules requiring conferences to have 12 teams and 2 divisions to conduct a CCG, and simply let conferences decide their champion by whatever method they prefer.

This proposal has been included as part of the new autonomy package, and is expected to pass with the overall vote in November. B12 commish Bowlsby has said publicly that they support that proposal, b/c it would allow them to remain at 10 teams, and still conduct a CCG.

And that killed the push, for now, to add two teams.

But we did learn things during that process. First, they were ONLY going to add TWO teams, and go to 12, NOT 14 or 16.

Second, the final 4 were Memphis, Cincy, SMU and Houston.

I'm not sure what other teams were considered, but I was told by one source that Tulane and Rice were also considered. I could find no mention from anyone that UConn, ECU, UCF, USF or BYU were seriously considered, or even considered at all.

And in the end, it was about to boil down to Cincy + either Memphis or a Texas team. Much different than what most message board posters always assume.

I would hope that if the subject comes up again with the B12, for whatever reason, they will still have the same mindset.

Meanwhile, all we can do is keep winning, keep supporting the football team, and have the admin continue to keep up with facilities.

One other interesting point. Basketball apparently had no influence on this decision. It was all about football, budgets and facilities.

I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

(10-07-2014 06:56 AM)boss man Wrote:  I'll see most of you at the Liberty Bowl Saturday night.

It probably helps the MEMPHIS effort to impress P5 conferences by having big crowds showing support.

Fuente seems to be doing his part fielding a competitive team and winning; maybe it's time for us to do our part.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing is happening now, but it might, some day. The better we are, the more we win, the more the university funds the team, and the more the fans support the team, the better position we are in for any future expansion.

"...Looked like Idaho playing against Alabama..."

Beauty, eh?

I still think that ole Jackie Sherrill was on the money with his 16 team conference prediction. I cant remember if he said 4 or 5 conferences but I'm hoping the current P5 all eventually expand to 16 institutions because that creates 80 slots. I think Memphis would be one of the 80. The BIG 12 seems like the best fit geographically (chuckle).

(10-07-2014 08:12 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I still think that ole Jackie Sherrill was on the money with his 16 team conference prediction. I cant remember if he said 4 or 5 conferences but I'm hoping the current P5 all eventually expand to 16 institutions because that creates 80 slots. I think Memphis would be one of the 80. The BIG 12 seems like the best fit geographically (chuckle).

I know that's a popular theory, but what is the compelling reason for each conference to get to 16 teams? The whole purpose of realignment is to consolidate the money and power.

I think it's possible that some P5 conferences will expand, but not necessarily to 16. And even then, they would be looking to steal other P5 teams, either from the B12 or the ACC, if possible.

In that case, it would be likely that they would just have 4 conferences instead of 5, with the same teams, similar to what happened to the Big East.

Look at the formation of the BCS in 1996. There were 63 teams + Notre Dame, in 6 conferences designated as AQ. Now, with all the realignment, we have 65 teams + ND, in 5 conferences.

The next iteration most likely would be 64 teams + ND in 4 conferences. There's your 16 team conferences, lol. But the number of conferences shrinks by one again, so the teams remain essentially the same.