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RE: Dayton and the Big East
(12-19-2014 12:36 PM)xusandy Wrote: ".....considering all the accusations of players and non-players having rape allegations swept under the rug at Xavier."
Wow, mlb, there's a pretty damning charge. I'm not sure what rape allegations you think were swept under the rug at Xavier any time recently. The only rape allegation incident involving a player that I'm aware of is the Dez Wells case, and he was booted from the university even though the local prosecutor declined to bring charges. Dez of course went to Maryland, where he became eligible immediately and is now the team's leading scorer, though he's currently sidelined for a month with a broken wrist. As you may recall, Dez actually sued Xavier for wrongful dismissal and slandering his name. His suit was eventually dropped, with no money changing hands and both parties promising not to say anything further about it. Both Tu Holloway and Mark Lyons had issues with behaving appropriately while at X. Both behaved embarrassingly after the UC-XU brawl game 3 years ago, but neither was ever arrested for anything while at Xavier, nor did I ever hear rape allegation rumors about either of them. Lyons transferred to Arizona and also became eligible immediately. Coach Mack did not contest this because Lyons was a behavioral embarrassment to the university and, at least as I heard it, his attitude made him essentially uncoachable. So in fact, XU parted ways with two true stars just because they didn't live up to the behavioral standards of the university. How this adds up to your implication of ethical laxity at Xavier is beyond my understanding. Or maybe your "sources" told you about lots of other cases at XU, all involving "non-players."
DOJ investigation into Xavier is all I need to point out. Xavier had to significantly change their system, which is part of the reason that they railroaded Dez Wells out of Xavier.
Quote:I am in fact a retired XU business prof, and so I called an old colleague yesterday and inquired about recently departing faculty. She was surprised by my question and said she hadn't really thought about it, nor had she noticed any increase in faculty turnover in the past couple of years. She did complain about her department's budget, but that was going on during the years I spent there as well. Actually, a large part of my own reason for leaving Xavier was a bigger paycheck and more support being available elsewhere. Faculty members routinely complain about the lack of money at virtually all colleges and universities, and I view both that, and some faculty moving on to higher paying jobs, as normal.
This person does not work in Dayton's business school. He is in a hiring position, however, and is very well versed on average pay between the 2 schools. UD is significantly better and Xavier professors (as well as other schools) are begging UD to hiring them.
Quote:In sum, I really don't know why you seem to have it in for the Big East in general or XU in particular. Are you a UC troll, a Dayton fan who feels betrayed by Xavier going to the Big East, or just someone who gets your kicks by stirring up trouble on a message board? FWIW, I was rather hoping that the Big East would take Dayton along with Xavier, due to the long and wonderful athletic rivalry between the two schools, but now I realize that it really wouldn't have made much sense from a media market perspective. Unfortunately, the media is what's driving conference re-alignment these days, and so I'd be surprised if the Big East ever takes Dayton. That's too bad from this fan's perspective, but it's time to move on.
UC troll? I've been here for over 10 years, pretty long to make it as a troll. Dayton fan? Sure, outside of UC I root for both Dayton and Wright State (grew up in Dayton). I just told you what I was told from someone who is connected to the school, and specifically has been involved with athletic department business. While I'm sure they were not happy that Xavier left UD for the Big East, it was an easy decision for XU due to the money. That being said, as I've said multiple times now, they've been told by the media consultants to stop worrying about the Big East not because they had no chance of an invite, but because FS1 thus far has been a bust and there is a strong possibility that the Big East has hosed itself in the future.
Quote:Finally, if you doubt that I am indeed a retired XU prof, just send me a private email and I'll give you my full name and enough detail to prove that I spent 17 great years at XU. Beyond that, I have nothing further to add to this thread.
I have no reason to doubt you... nor do you have any reason to doubt what I've said. I just told you what I've been told, no more, no less. I have no dog in this fight as a UC grad, nor do I think Dayton needs the Big East to be a winner. In fact, I think they are better off in the current environment because they are in a very winnable conference with a great coach who can take them on a run similar to last year. Dayton has plenty of money, 13,000 seats sold each night, and a deep pocketed alumni base that will make sure they are flush with money for any coach that wants to be there. They by far have the best college basketball fan base in Ohio and continue to show it year after year.
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