(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:19 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  This thread needs end. I am not worried about USF. They are a rebuilding program but all they need to do is get hot. This is Florida College Football. Fair weather fans are a dime a dozen and at times it looks like a Flash Mob. Love it or hate it... That's Florida. Those Bulls fans are still out there. It's a very large university and has practically the same intangible assets as UCF.

UCF@USF - War on I-4 - Corridor Clash - Nov.28th
Raymond James will have 45k or more to face the UCF Knights. These attendance issues wont be an issue when it comes to the rivalry.

Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

(09-08-2014 12:16 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:19 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  This thread needs end. I am not worried about USF. They are a rebuilding program but all they need to do is get hot. This is Florida College Football. Fair weather fans are a dime a dozen and at times it looks like a Flash Mob. Love it or hate it... That's Florida. Those Bulls fans are still out there. It's a very large university and has practically the same intangible assets as UCF.

UCF@USF - War on I-4 - Corridor Clash - Nov.28th
Raymond James will have 45k or more to face the UCF Knights. These attendance issues wont be an issue when it comes to the rivalry.

Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

Correct. I don't think either team would draw more if they had equal seasons. USF drawing more in the big east has everything to do with better teams visiting.

agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:54 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  USF, don't wait for winning to build an ocs, do it now. If u went 10 straight seasons of losing and still didn't have an OCS because you were waiting to win....you re program will be in danger of surviving.

Terrible reason.

Who would donate? I wouldn't, unless there was a winning product


10 straight losing season? If that is the case... I would expect USF to end their football program.

and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

(09-12-2014 01:43 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:54 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  USF, don't wait for winning to build an ocs, do it now. If u went 10 straight seasons of losing and still didn't have an OCS because you were waiting to win....you re program will be in danger of surviving.

Terrible reason.

Who would donate? I wouldn't, unless there was a winning product


10 straight losing season? If that is the case... I would expect USF to end their football program.

and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

its about sticking with what's yours no matter what. If my son was the worst baseball player on the team from little league til high school I'd still go to every game. I wouldn't start following some hot shot hitting 500 over my kid. I'd follow my son and be loyal with all my heart. That's the difference between college and NFL football fans. Most of us don't jump on last years superbowl winner bandwagon stuff. We college fans stick with our boys win or lose, in hot humid temperatures along with frigidly cold, always having the hope that they LL win at some point. Its what we do.

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:19 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  This thread needs end. I am not worried about USF. They are a rebuilding program but all they need to do is get hot. This is Florida College Football. Fair weather fans are a dime a dozen and at times it looks like a Flash Mob. Love it or hate it... That's Florida. Those Bulls fans are still out there. It's a very large university and has practically the same intangible assets as UCF.

UCF@USF - War on I-4 - Corridor Clash - Nov.28th
Raymond James will have 45k or more to face the UCF Knights. These attendance issues wont be an issue when it comes to the rivalry.

Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

(09-08-2014 12:16 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:19 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  This thread needs end. I am not worried about USF. They are a rebuilding program but all they need to do is get hot. This is Florida College Football. Fair weather fans are a dime a dozen and at times it looks like a Flash Mob. Love it or hate it... That's Florida. Those Bulls fans are still out there. It's a very large university and has practically the same intangible assets as UCF.

UCF@USF - War on I-4 - Corridor Clash - Nov.28th
Raymond James will have 45k or more to face the UCF Knights. These attendance issues wont be an issue when it comes to the rivalry.

Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

Correct. I don't think either team would draw more if they had equal seasons. USF drawing more in the big east has everything to do with better teams visiting.

agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

(09-12-2014 02:11 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:43 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:54 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  USF, don't wait for winning to build an ocs, do it now. If u went 10 straight seasons of losing and still didn't have an OCS because you were waiting to win....you re program will be in danger of surviving.

Terrible reason.

Who would donate? I wouldn't, unless there was a winning product


10 straight losing season? If that is the case... I would expect USF to end their football program.

and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

its about sticking with what's yours no matter what. If my son was the worst baseball player on the team from little league til high school I'd still go to every game. I wouldn't start following some hot shot hitting 500 over my kid. I'd follow my son and be loyal with all my heart. That's the difference between college and NFL football fans. Most of us don't jump on last years superbowl winner bandwagon stuff. We college fans stick with our boys win or lose, in hot humid temperatures along with frigidly cold, always having the hope that they LL win at some point. Its what we do.

Interesting analogy. But you should metaphorically recommend your son to choose another sport.

The same would go for USF (or my support for USF). Or any team for that matter.


10 losing season? It would be in any team's best interest to make some major programs OR SCRAP the program.

This won't be an issue with USF. But an OCS -- isn't there to reward underperforming results. Especially with a University that possess great potential.

(09-12-2014 02:26 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:11 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:43 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  [quote='Bear' pid='11107912' dateline='1410544481']

Terrible reason.

Who would donate? I wouldn't, unless there was a winning product


10 straight losing season? If that is the case... I would expect USF to end their football program.

and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

its about sticking with what's yours no matter what. If my son was the worst baseball player on the team from little league til high school I'd still go to every game. I wouldn't start following some hot shot hitting 500 over my kid. I'd follow my son and be loyal with all my heart. That's the difference between college and NFL football fans. Most of us don't jump on last years superbowl winner bandwagon stuff. We college fans stick with our boys win or lose, in hot humid temperatures along with frigidly cold, always having the hope that they LL win at some point. Its what we do.

Interesting analogy. But you should metaphorically recommend your son to choose another sport.

The same would go for USF (or my support for USF). Or any team for that matter.


10 losing season? It would be in any team's best interest to make some major programs OR SCRAP the program.

This won't be an issue with USF. But an OCS -- isn't there to reward underperforming results. Especially with a University that possess great potential.
Agreed. It's there because that's what college football teams do. They play in college football stadiums.

(09-12-2014 02:26 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:11 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:43 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:54 PM)Bear Wrote:  Terrible reason.

Who would donate? I wouldn't, unless there was a winning product


10 straight losing season? If that is the case... I would expect USF to end their football program.

and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

its about sticking with what's yours no matter what. If my son was the worst baseball player on the team from little league til high school I'd still go to every game. I wouldn't start following some hot shot hitting 500 over my kid. I'd follow my son and be loyal with all my heart. That's the difference between college and NFL football fans. Most of us don't jump on last years superbowl winner bandwagon stuff. We college fans stick with our boys win or lose, in hot humid temperatures along with frigidly cold, always having the hope that they LL win at some point. Its what we do.

Interesting analogy. But you should metaphorically recommend your son to choose another sport.

The same would go for USF (or my support for USF). Or any team for that matter.


10 losing season? It would be in any team's best interest to make some major programs OR SCRAP the program.

This won't be an issue with USF. But an OCS -- isn't there to reward underperforming results. Especially with a University that possess great potential.

Wow! Are you actually suggesting that SMU, Tulane and Temple drop their football programs because they ve only had a few winning seasons over the past 3 decades??

(09-12-2014 02:33 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:26 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:11 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:43 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  and that's the difference between you and a real fan. I'd stick with team regardless, you d drop them and move on to another that's winning.

I wouldn't support another team


But I won't subsidize a terrible product, either.

its about sticking with what's yours no matter what. If my son was the worst baseball player on the team from little league til high school I'd still go to every game. I wouldn't start following some hot shot hitting 500 over my kid. I'd follow my son and be loyal with all my heart. That's the difference between college and NFL football fans. Most of us don't jump on last years superbowl winner bandwagon stuff. We college fans stick with our boys win or lose, in hot humid temperatures along with frigidly cold, always having the hope that they LL win at some point. Its what we do.

Interesting analogy. But you should metaphorically recommend your son to choose another sport.

The same would go for USF (or my support for USF). Or any team for that matter.


10 losing season? It would be in any team's best interest to make some major programs OR SCRAP the program.

This won't be an issue with USF. But an OCS -- isn't there to reward underperforming results. Especially with a University that possess great potential.

Wow! Are you actually suggesting that SMU, Tulane and Temple drop their football programs because they ve only had a few winning seasons over the past 3 decades??

The G5 is slowly heading in that direction...



The P5 autonomy will further continue to solidify

(09-12-2014 01:30 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 11:12 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 09:11 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 09:00 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(09-11-2014 07:55 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Funny how UCF seem to forget that their attendance looked like this against...just last year in their BCS conference inaugural season, despite coming off their biggest victory I program history after upsetting UL the week before.


Picture taken at halftime by Orlando Sentinel.

UCF reported attendance as 37,924...which would be ~85% capacity.

Gotcha....


Imagine when they go through a down period....

Which game is that? We clear out the last couple of min and come back in right at kickoff. It's always been that way. Nobody is ever in the stands at halftime. Especially at a noon game


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-- the original picture said halftime but it's likely kickoff based on Sentinel game thread

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October 26, 2013 at 11:59 AMTwitter
Shannon Owens-Green
@osknights
This may be the smallest crowd I've seen since coming onto the UCF beat last October. Considering the situation, that's crazy.

October 26, 2013 at 12:00 PMTwitter
Mike Bianchi
@BianchiWrites
Just before kickoff of #UCF game vs. UConn. Plenty of sections available! http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXg8WvUCcAAL_zt.jpg

October 26, 2013 at 12:02 PMTwitter
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@osknights
RT @Mike_Gramajo : UCF student section ahead of today's game vs. UConn bit.ly/HnFvYx

October 26, 2013 at 12:03 PMTwitter
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@osmattmurschel
Plenty of seat available for today's #UCF #UConn game here at Bright House Networks Stadium. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXg9IRyCUAEsHVY.jpg


October 26, 2013 at 12:05 PMTwitter
Shannon Owens-Green
@osknights
I will simply refer to this crowd when anyone wants to tweet me about Big 12 expansion rumors.

http://live.orlandosentinel.com/Event/UC...log?Page=0

OH OH Cyber you went full blown KNIGHLIGHT on them.

KL has been a good/bad influence. LOL...

Did you see my posts?


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(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:19 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  This thread needs end. I am not worried about USF. They are a rebuilding program but all they need to do is get hot. This is Florida College Football. Fair weather fans are a dime a dozen and at times it looks like a Flash Mob. Love it or hate it... That's Florida. Those Bulls fans are still out there. It's a very large university and has practically the same intangible assets as UCF.

UCF@USF - War on I-4 - Corridor Clash - Nov.28th
Raymond James will have 45k or more to face the UCF Knights. These attendance issues wont be an issue when it comes to the rivalry.

Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

(09-08-2014 12:16 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

Correct. I don't think either team would draw more if they had equal seasons. USF drawing more in the big east has everything to do with better teams visiting.

agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something?

(09-12-2014 03:55 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

(09-08-2014 12:16 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Correct. I don't think either team would draw more if they had equal seasons. USF drawing more in the big east has everything to do with better teams visiting.

agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something? :wingedeagle:

I have hidden that fact?? I was really angry that USF got picked up by the bcs in 2005 after a few years of playing and made all that bcs $$ while many others more worthy fought for chump change on the outside of the bcs cartel. At least you now know how much it sucks to be snubbed. Probably far worse than you ever imagined

(09-12-2014 03:55 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Good post. Agree completely.

Side note, up until the recent nosedive by USF, USF drew more fans on average than UCF on average pretty much every year (some of that can be attributed to being in the Big East). Now UCF is drawing more than USF. If USF gets back to respectable or outstanding levels, like expected, both will draw about the same long term, IMO.

(09-08-2014 12:16 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Correct. I don't think either team would draw more if they had equal seasons. USF drawing more in the big east has everything to do with better teams visiting.

agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something?

If ECU was upset they should have beat us on the field... but despite all their bluster if USF being light years behind they couldn't stay on the field against USF. Not a flame but facts....however fans like billy bobber can continue to hold a grudge.

(09-12-2014 04:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:55 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 12:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  agree 100% you USF fans got so spoiled with the big east invite after 2 seasons of horrible cusa play. You didn't earn the bcs league invite and that's part of the disconnect here.

"Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something?

I have hidden that fact?? I was really angry that USF got picked up by the bcs in 2005 after a few years of playing and made all that bcs $$ while many others more worthy fought for chump change on the outside of the bcs cartel. At least you now know how much it sucks to be snubbed. Probably far worse than you ever imagined

How was ECU more worthy?

Especially when expansion was driven by markets and upside?

It's not our fault we are located in Tampa and that we quickly built a program from nothing to a competitive program that beat all this CUSA teams that we would supposedly never catch. I can understand ECU's frustration but don't take it out on USF b/c what we were supposed to do....turn down the Big east's interest? Let go of your hate....

(09-12-2014 04:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I have hidden that fact?? I was really angry that USF got picked up by the bcs in 2005 after a few years of playing and made all that bcs $$ while many others more worthy fought for chump change on the outside of the bcs cartel. At least you now know how much it sucks to be snubbed. Probably far worse than you ever imagined

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. Dude this is football we're talking about.... I, and if you ever read my posts since the AAC was formed you'd know this, really like our current conference. Yeah, it's not a 'power' conference (using the ESPN definition), but with our big schools and big markets, we'll grow into a very legit #6. You did happen to notice all that success the conference had last year?

You seriously think I hate Louisville or Pitt because they got 'in' and USF didn't? Nope. And I'm not curling up in a fetal position and crying every night that I'm not in the ACC or B12. Life's too short...

(09-12-2014 04:43 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 04:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:55 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 01:37 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  "Earn"


Really?

What does "earning" have to do with anything?

Rutgers....graced their fans with over 125 years of crappy football, yet they are positioned to make upward to $40-million/year once the new B1G contracts kicks in. Please don't lecture me on "earning" or paying dues.

- See Maryland...
- See Duke....
- See Iowa State...
- See Vanderbilt....
- See SEC schools in Mississippi
- See a large % of "Power$" schools who have done nothing to earn their welfare checks other than long time association with their conference.

Again..."earn" has nothing to do with anything except when it's related to earning/making money for schools and the NCAA.

no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something?

I have hidden that fact?? I was really angry that USF got picked up by the bcs in 2005 after a few years of playing and made all that bcs $$ while many others more worthy fought for chump change on the outside of the bcs cartel. At least you now know how much it sucks to be snubbed. Probably far worse than you ever imagined

How was ECU more worthy?

Especially when expansion was driven by markets and upside?

It's not our fault we are located in Tampa and that we quickly built a program from nothing to a competitive program that beat all this CUSA teams that we would supposedly never catch. I can understand ECU's frustration but don't take it out on USF b/c what we were supposed to do....turn down the Big east's interest? Let go of your hate....

(09-12-2014 05:11 PM)Bear Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 04:43 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 04:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 03:55 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(09-12-2014 02:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  no, they didn't earn it. But everyone of those you mentioned are light years beyond USF. Welfare? See USF between 2005-2013.

Man talk about an axe to grind... Some SunDoll break your heart or something?

I have hidden that fact?? I was really angry that USF got picked up by the bcs in 2005 after a few years of playing and made all that bcs $$ while many others more worthy fought for chump change on the outside of the bcs cartel. At least you now know how much it sucks to be snubbed. Probably far worse than you ever imagined

How was ECU more worthy?

Especially when expansion was driven by markets and upside?

It's not our fault we are located in Tampa and that we quickly built a program from nothing to a competitive program that beat all this CUSA teams that we would supposedly never catch. I can understand ECU's frustration but don't take it out on USF b/c what we were supposed to do....turn down the Big east's interest? Let go of your hate....

thanks bear, for pointing out his hypocrisy.