(08-07-2014 10:41 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:15 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  Nobody is forcing the programs that want a P5 only schedule to load up on cupcakes. Did Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina go into Tuscaloosa and force Alabama to put them on the schedule this year?

Exactly! If Alabama or any other P5 team wants to play all P5 teams what has stopped them from scheduling all P5 teams to this point?

Really wish a reporter would ask this question. Saban would say some crap like, if Auburn is going to schedule an FCS/G5 then we have to so not to be penalized with a loss.

(08-07-2014 10:43 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:37 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  46% is hardly "most"

Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents

changed the title
the tweet that posted it said most, and alot of the "undecided' supported it but had stipulations or worries that had to be answered before they supported something like that (like ND/navy or how playing teams with less wins would affect fan attendance/interest)

Yeah , ESPiN , McMurphy and the crew all want us to believe that everyone wants this and write it with that slant

yup...the "everyone" are the handful of P5's that can afford it and that will win most of the OOC games vs the other P5's. At that point the bottom of the P5's become the top of the P5's sacrificial lamb opener games and homecoming games. LOL when this happens the Purdues, Rutgers, and Cal's are not going to think the new div 4 is so fun anymore...hahaha

Texas A&M and NC State didn't get the memo I guess....



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(08-07-2014 09:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-schedules

I think P5 power teams may be more incentivized to do this. Those P5 teams in the bottom %60, not so much.

If you keep breaking up the have's and have nots, you eventually weed all but a select few out.So the P5's create their own division and only play each other. Not everyone will win. Those in power today may not be in power tomorrow. Those not in power today may end up splitting off again vs. becoming irrelevant.

ND, MSU, FSU, OU, OhSU, Bama, LSU, Mich, UCLA, Aub, Oregon, Texas, Stanford, USC, Nebraska, Miami, and a select other few will end up being in one or two conferences that play for their national championship until that group is split into the winners and the losers.

This whole P5 thing is a carry-over of the shortsighted BCS that brought a long term separation solution to their f'ed up efforts to crown a true NC instead of just going with a play-off like every other major sport in the world has.

Eventually, most of the P5 teams will lose out on this deal.

At least one NCAA coach understands what is going on -

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...e-sold-out (changed link to CBS story - I hate ESPN)

And one more thing - I say this every time this comes up - Houston, Tulane, UC, and every other school investing millions of $$ into facilities will not sit idly by and allow this to happen. Sooner or later you have to believe there will be lawsuits galore.

(08-07-2014 10:31 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

Exactly.

From ESPN’s point of view, it could be argued that they would benefit from eliminating the non-P5 schools from the airwaves and allow them to backfill their current slots with more TV ratings friendly matchups between P5 schools. This would reduce the number of college football games shown on any given weekend but… make the games that are shown more significant and valuable ratings wise. For TV execs and conference commissioners concerned about the glut\saturation of college football on TV, reducing the available TV inventory by half but increasing their value is a win:win situation.

(08-07-2014 10:44 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:41 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Exactly! If Alabama or any other P5 team wants to play all P5 teams what has stopped them from scheduling all P5 teams to this point?

Really wish a reporter would ask this question. Saban would say some crap like, if Auburn is going to schedule an FCS/G5 then we have to so not to be penalized with a loss.

I'm pretty sure the selection committee would still seriously consider Alabama if they finished with 2 losses to LSU and Ohio State, but wins over Auburn, Texas A&M, Florida, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Florida State.

(08-07-2014 10:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:31 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

ESPN has definitely been one of the leaders in pushing this anti-G5 agenda we have seen the past couple years. They hate, I mean hate most of the schools in this conference.

I don't think it's necessarily hate, considering most of the ACC newbies came from this conference in what was essentially a ESPN driven power play. Unfortunately, there just isn't enough room in their little club for all former BE schools and current AAC schools that are serious about football.

For them it's just business. Much like you see former recent BE schools like Pitt voting in this unofficial poll against playing G5 schools I think all of our priorities would change if we were on the other side.

IMO, I like what Aresco is doing in basically creating an argument that we agree with all P5 provisions other than their club not being called the P6.

(08-07-2014 10:54 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:31 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

Exactly.

From ESPN’s point of view, it could be argued that they would benefit from eliminating the non-P5 schools from the airwaves and allow them to backfill their current slots with more TV ratings friendly matchups between P5 schools. This would reduce the number of college football games shown on any given weekend but… make the games that are shown more significant and valuable ratings wise. For TV execs and conference commissioners concerned about the glut\saturation of college football on TV, reducing the available TV inventory by half but increasing their value is a win:win situation.

Oh - they will still show non P5 games, there is still money to be made there. Those games will just be on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

Since when is 30 of 65 a majority? LOL

These coaches who keep saying it, then turn right around and not only schedule a G5, but FCS schools too... The reality is ALL P5 want 7 home games and you can't accomplish that playing only within the P5, few want to give up a game at home... others don't want to give up wins against G5 or FCS because then they won't be bowl eligible.

I honestly can't wait for the whole damn thing to blow up in about 10 years.

F the "P5".

Eventually Alabama Team A will be playing Alabama Team B every week.

(08-07-2014 10:47 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:43 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:37 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  46% is hardly "most"

Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents

changed the title
the tweet that posted it said most, and alot of the "undecided' supported it but had stipulations or worries that had to be answered before they supported something like that (like ND/navy or how playing teams with less wins would affect fan attendance/interest)

Yeah , ESPiN , McMurphy and the crew all want us to believe that everyone wants this and write it with that slant

yup...the "everyone" are the handful of P5's that can afford it and that will win most of the OOC games vs the other P5's. At that point the bottom of the P5's become the top of the P5's sacrificial lamb opener games and homecoming games. LOL when this happens the Purdues, Rutgers, and Cal's are not going to think the new div 4 is so fun anymore...hahaha

Exactly. What they're describing is pro football without any of the mechanisms (the draft and free agency) designed to promote competitive balance. Sooner or later the fans of the schools stuck at the bottom of the pyramid will see the sheer hopelessness of their situation and find something better to do with their Saturdays.

A lot of these coach's forgot where they came from and where they will end up once their crappy P5 school fires their ass.

(08-07-2014 10:19 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  You know what's unbelievably far-fetched, but would be funny?

Notre Dame says they won't back ANYTHING that removes Navy from their schedule.

What conference will Navy be in next season? Hmmmmmmmm....

Notre Dame seems to stir the NCAA drink for some reason, and maybe...just maybe having Navy as a member of the American could put us a step above the rest of the G5 and get us included. (If our dominant performances in football & basketball aren't enough.)

You realize that Notre Dame will NEVER drop Navy unless Navy doesn't want to play Notre Dame, right? The Navy basically kept Notre Dame open during WWII, so Navy plays Notre Dame in football until Navy decides the series is over.

That being said, if this comes to pass, the P5 should be their own Division in all sports -- not just football. Or G5 schools don't play P5 schools in other sports, etc.

This will be the "new" talking point by ESPN College "Insiders". The first College Game Day Kirk will be all over this and will stay on it until the OOC games against P5 and non P5 are done. The more our league (and others) schedule quality games the greater the chance wins could reflect positivity on the league. That is not good for business if you are ESPN.

Mc Murphy is a tool. He was one when he worked for the Tampa Tribune and he is a bigger one now.

McMurphy pushes his agenda all the time. The guy has a inferiority complex.

(08-07-2014 11:51 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  McMurphy pushes his agenda all the time. The guy has a inferiority complex.

hit in on the head.

(08-07-2014 11:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Mc Murphy is a tool. He was one when he worked for the Tampa Tribune and he is a bigger one now.

I agree. He is a tool. By the way, 1986 just called and they want their mustache back.

(08-07-2014 09:48 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Some interesting quotes:

Even though Notre Dame has never played an FCS team and plays almost exclusively Power Five opponents already, Irish coach Brian Kelly said he would be against it if it meant no longer playing Navy.

Kelly said removing Navy from Notre Dame's schedule would be "a deal-breaker." Even with teams playing tougher schedules, Kelly said he doesn't favor teams with losing records playing in bowls.

North Carolina's Larry Fedora was against the idea because he said the non-Power Five league teams "can't survive without us. It would not be good for college football."

Just another reason to add Navy, and Army and AF if we can get them. Political clout.

If this goes down either they make the AAC a "power" league or it goes to court. Simple as that.

We need to be thinking legal action now.