Nobody is forcing the programs that want a P5 only schedule to load up on cupcakes. Did Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina go into Tuscaloosa and force Alabama to put them on the schedule this year?

STFU Saban. If Missouri and South Carolina want to play a home and home with UCF, who the hell are you to tell them that they have to schedule Indiana instead.

but i love the coaches that stood by the schools they once coached at
like Wisconsin's coach

for houston looks like holgs and briles are ready to throw us to the wolves and kingsbury still has our back and sumlin in on the fence

i find it wierd all of cincys coach were read to throw them to the wolves (kelly was on the fence solely for navy but would be for it if he could still play the service academies)

(08-07-2014 09:50 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Is it just me or does Brett McMurphy WANT to see this happen. He acts like he hates the AAC et al.

There is a long history with Brett McMurphy. First, he lives in Tampa and used to cover USF. It is my understanding that he would go out of his way to dump all over the Bulls.

Second, McMuprhy was really tight with former BE commissioner Marinatto and a few other high stafffers at the BE. In the past it is believed Marinatto and/or his staffers would leak information to him (thus he had the scoop way ahead of everyone else). He was livid when Marinatto was canned and wrote a bunch of scathing articles about the Big East/AAC and the teams in the cofnerence. He basically told us all to go to hell.

The third point I would add is there are people in this country who genuinely do not like "City schools" like Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, etc. They also do not like so-called "directional schools". They think if you are not named (Fill in the State) State University or the University of (Fill in the state) you should not be playing high level football. I think McMurphy falls in that category.

The fourth point I would add is McMurphy is a huge ACC schill.

You know what's unbelievably far-fetched, but would be funny?

Notre Dame says they won't back ANYTHING that removes Navy from their schedule.

What conference will Navy be in next season? Hmmmmmmmm....

Notre Dame seems to stir the NCAA drink for some reason, and maybe...just maybe having Navy as a member of the American could put us a step above the rest of the G5 and get us included. (If our dominant performances in football & basketball aren't enough.)

It's just utter cowardice. College sports just gets less and less appealing every day.

(08-07-2014 09:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-schedules

this is all good for the Ohio States, USC's, and Alabama's who can:
a: afford to pay to play just P5 schools
b: win most of those games

but it doesn't work for the exact same reasons for the Washington States, Vandy's, Iowa States, and Virginia's.

In fact I'm not sure it works for the mid tiers of Louivilles, UNC's, and Michigan States. These guys may be able to afford to pay to play only P5's but the wins/losses would impact them and with already tough conference schedules, if they want 7 or 8 wins, playing only P5's isn't going to work out to well for some of these guys most years.

Stated another way...it's all fun and games playing only P5's for Oregon State or Illinois etc until you look up and realize you haven't finished over .500 for a season in five years.

(08-07-2014 10:13 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  This will never happen, by the way, at least for a long while, unless these programs want to buy out and cancel all of the out-year OOC games that they've signed recently. There are tons and tons of agreements already in place.

Contracts can be easily broken, or worst case scenario the push for P5vP5 can be a prospective policy only impacting future contracts

BTW, the commissioners of the SEC, B1G and PAC12 swore just a couple years ago, that they would NEVER advocate or participate for a playoff system. Things change...

At some point, the television networks who are bankrolling all this to begin with are going to want to maximize their investments and see more inter-sectional P5-only matchups. Any money schools would potentially lose by losing a a 7th or 8th home game would be made up by increased revenue opportunities dangled by TV networks. Plus the reality is that for the most part, most P5vG5 match ups are usually ratings dogs, with the obvious exception of a 'hot' G5 team taking on one of the P5s.

IMO, if this does happen college football will essentially become NFL-lite.

(08-07-2014 10:20 AM)UConnFB Wrote:  It's just utter cowardice. College sports just gets less and less appealing every day.

yup.

Looking at the comments sections of the article I saw very few fans in support of it. Everyone agrees that the high teams would be fun to watch going at eachother.

But, we all know that's not what would happen. Saban would have WF, Washington State and Kansas on speed dial.

(08-07-2014 10:24 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:13 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  This will never happen, by the way, at least for a long while, unless these programs want to buy out and cancel all of the out-year OOC games that they've signed recently. There are tons and tons of agreements already in place.

Contracts can be easily broken, or worst case scenario the push for P5vP5 can be a prospective policy only impacting future contracts

BTW, the commissioners of the SEC, B1G and PAC12 swore just a couple years ago, that they would NEVER advocate or participate for a playoff system. Things change...

At some point, the television networks who are bankrolling all this to begin with are going to want to maximize their investments and see more inter-sectional P5-only matchups. Any money schools would potentially lose by losing a a 7th or 8th home game would be made up by increased revenue opportunities dangled by TV networks. Plus the reality is that for the most part, most P5vG5 match ups are usually ratings dogs, with the obvious exception of a 'hot' G5 team taking on one of the P5s.

IMO, if this does happen college football will essentially become NFL-lite.

Which will be the demise of CFB. Basically the league will be a watered down version of the the pro sport. Nobody gives a shyte about Minor League Baseball or the Development League in Basketball. That will be the outcome for CFB if all of these things come to pass.

(08-07-2014 10:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 09:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-schedules

this is all good for the Ohio States, USC's, and Alabama's who can:
a: afford to pay to play just P5 schools
b: win most of those games

but it doesn't work for the exact same reasons for the Washington States, Vandy's, Iowa States, and Virginia's.

In fact I'm not sure it works for the mid tiers of Louivilles, UNC's, and Michigan States. These guys may be able to afford to pay to play only P5's but the wins/losses would impact them and with already tough conference schedules, if they want 7 or 8 wins, playing only P5's isn't going to work out to well for some of these guys most years.

Stated another way...it's all fun and games playing only P5's for Oregon State or Illinois etc until you look up and realize you haven't finished over .500 for a season in five years.

You are correct it's all about the money for the mid-level P5s. However, if TV dangles a carrot of new revenue streams that would easily make up for losing a 7th or 8th home game, I can easily see the majority of the P5 institutions approving the proposed P5-only measure.

In terms of concerns about wins and losses...perhaps if it was only the coaches or athletic directors making these decisions. Instead, its college presidents who only think about dollars and cents. Otherwise, there would be no way a Rutgers and Maryland would have been invited to the B1G...b/c it surely wasn't for their football prowess.

My $0.02

46% is hardly "most"

Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents

I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

(08-07-2014 10:31 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

yup...a division owned and controlled by ESPN

if/when this happens the master stroke will have been delivered and game over for the rest of us

(08-07-2014 09:50 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Is it just me or does Brett McMurphy WANT to see this happen. He acts like he hates the AAC et al.

I work in the court system and seriously McMurphy appears like a lot of pedophiles I see. He may be a decent person but something about him really bothers me. He ostensibly has some sort of weird agenda and even seems to take pleasure in reporting anti-AAC rhetoric. Something's just off about him.

(08-07-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  46% is hardly "most"

Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents

changed the title
the tweet that posted it said most, and alot of the "undecided' supported it but had stipulations or worries that had to be answered before they supported something like that (like ND/navy or how playing teams with less wins would affect fan attendance/interest)

(08-07-2014 10:31 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I hate Nick Saban more every time I see a quote of his.

The P5 will not be happy until they have their own division. ESPN wants that to happen too - that's why 99.9999% of their college football coverage (College Football Live show, their website, etc) is P5.

ESPN has definitely been one of the leaders in pushing this anti-G5 agenda we have seen the past couple years. They hate, I mean hate most of the schools in this conference.

(08-07-2014 10:15 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  Nobody is forcing the programs that want a P5 only schedule to load up on cupcakes. Did Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina go into Tuscaloosa and force Alabama to put them on the schedule this year?

STFU Saban. If Missouri and South Carolina want to play a home and home with UCF, who the hell are you to tell them that they have to schedule Indiana instead.

As soon as Alabama - or any other P5 school - puts together a schedule entirely made of P5 opponents, then this whole debate is a joke.

The counter argument is that it wouldn't be fair blah, blah, blah.

However, I'm pretty sure the selection committee would still seriously consider Alabama if they finished with 2 losses to LSU and Ohio State, but wins over Auburn, Texas A&M, Florida, Oregon, Oklahoma, and Florida State.

(08-07-2014 10:15 AM)MechaKnight Wrote:  Nobody is forcing the programs that want a P5 only schedule to load up on cupcakes. Did Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina go into Tuscaloosa and force Alabama to put them on the schedule this year?

Exactly! If Alabama or any other P5 team wants to play all P5 teams what has stopped them from scheduling all P5 teams to this point?

(08-07-2014 10:37 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-07-2014 10:30 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  46% is hardly "most"

Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents

changed the title
the tweet that posted it said most, and alot of the "undecided' supported it but had stipulations or worries that had to be answered before they supported something like that (like ND/navy or how playing teams with less wins would affect fan attendance/interest)

Yeah , ESPiN , McMurphy and the crew all want us to believe that everyone wants this and write it with that slant