(08-02-2014 03:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  You might be right...I'll defer to your local insight there...Just I've seen some games with much less than 40k. Going to 40k with extra wide seating and suites is still better than the current set up. Do they have room to build a new stadium in the existing land and then tear down Aloha Stadium when the new stadium opens?

You are correct that a lot of recent games have had attendance far below 40k. My point is only that attendance is way down due to the team's poor play the past three seasons. History has shown that Hawaii fans will show up in much bigger numbers to support a winning team, and football is too popular in the Islands for an underachieving coaching staff to be tolerated for too long. if Norm Chow can't put up some wins soon he'll be gone and the program can start to rebuild.

To answer your question, yes there's room to build a new stadium in the existing parking lot, although of course parking would be a problem during the interim.

Just as an aside since we're on the topic, it's common knowledge here that some local developers and their politician friends would like to redevelop the Aloha Stadium site with condos and retail since the new Honolulu transit system will have a station there. I think that's what's really driving the push to downsize the stadium. A smaller stadium footprint with a reduced parking requirement will open up a bigger chunk of the site for development and put more cash in some insiders' pockets.

Follow the money....LOL

Good luck, I've always enjoyed watch Hawaii play. I talked to our AD about scheduling Cuse against Hawaii the same year they play the hoops team in Maui...

Would be terrific to see a Hawaii/Syracuse football matchup someday. Have a great season.

(08-01-2014 06:13 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(08-01-2014 12:44 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(08-01-2014 12:42 PM)Monarchy Anarchy Wrote:  

(07-31-2014 12:53 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  [quote='bostonspider' pid='10944116' dateline='1406651181']
I would say the nicest less than 30,000 seat stadium is Princeton Stadium, with 27,000 seats. Not a bad one in the house.



I saw my first college football game there as a cub scout @1958. They played Colgate. Great experience.

You're thinking of Palmer Stadium which was demolished to make way for Princeton Stadium back in the late 90's. Palmer Stadium was massive seating over 40k, it was very cool with big stone columns but way too big for the average Princeton crowd. The current Priceton Stadium does look pretty impressive though.

I agree...it is minimalist but delivers really good sightlines.

The architect, Rafael Vinoly, did a nice job of evoking the old Palmer Stadium horseshoe layout with his design. I attended a lot games at Palmer and a couple at the new stadium and I have to admit to being a little nostalgic for the old digs. But by removing the track the new stadium puts everyone close to the action. For an FCS stadium it's top-notch.

It looks cool from the outside. Could be confused as just another campus building; Princeton's got some pretty quirky-looking ones.

(07-28-2014 10:29 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 07:43 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 04:54 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 10:17 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Houston no longer plays 2-for-1s or 3- for-1s.

OU has played Tulsa 13 times since WW2. Only 3 of those were at Tulsa. It will be 11 at Norman, 4 at Tulsa when the current unbalanced scheduling agreement concludes in 2015.

Oklahoma St has hosted 2 of the last 3 vs Tulsa, and has another game set in Stillwater in 2017.

BTW, Oklahoma St ain't no Texas A&M in tradition or fan base. More like Texas Tech.

Houston has a 4-game series scheduled upcoming with Tech. 2 at our place, 2 in Lubbock.

The last six OU/TU games have been 2/1 deals and these games are, without question, a feather in the hat for Tulsa. Much of the credit goes to current OU AD. As one TU Coach said, "this is not only a golden opportunity for our players but we would be publicly ridiculed for turning this deal down by the Oklahoma public." I am in total agreement with the coach on this point.

The 2017 OSU game is a game contracted some time ago but got continually shoved back due primarily to the 9 game B12 conference schedule as OSU had to shed some contracts and push other contracts back.

TU has told OSU that they would like to continue the series but only home and home which OSU, desiring 6/7 home games, has declined wanting TU to agree to 2/1. Essentially, Tulsa has replaced OSU as a regular opponent with 7-Time National Champ Oklahoma.

Not bad for a peanut size school of 4,167 students, the smallest school playing IA football, to not only play IA football but to excel and to regularly play the B12 Conference Contender as well as National Champion contender. TU and OU play 6 games in a 9 year period from 2007 to 2015. What other NonBCS school can say that? To regularly play Michigan &/orOhio State, Southern Cal &/or UCLA, Alabama &/orFlorida?

Last six Tulsa/Oklahoma games:
2007: Oklahoma @TU
2009: TU @Oklahoma
2011: TU @Oklahoma
2013: TU @Oklahoma
2014: Oklahoma @TU
2015: TU @Oklahoma

Tulsa is the only non conference FBS program in the state and Tulsa and North Texas are the only teams within 350 miles of UO that aren't in the Big XII, it shouldn't be a surprise that they play regularly. You can't compare that to a school like Ohio State that has 22 or 23 non conferences programs within a 350 mile radius. There are 7 options in the state of Ohio alone. Totally different.

I am not sure citing Ohio State U and the state of Ohio with its many NonBCS programs is 100% valid. While Ohio State does schedule MAC schools including programs within the state, OSU won't travel to a MAC school. Then there are schools like Illinois which doesn't play NIU, Purdue and Indiana ignore Ball State, North Carolina ignores ECU, Tennessee ignores Memphis, etc.

Not sure these are the best examples as ECU plays state and regional P5s on a regular basis, and Memphis is resuming those types of series as well. In Memphis' case, it's not P5s ignoring G5s. It's the product of a "protect basketball at all costs" mentality that permeated the university for years...new president, new ad, new coaches (except for Pastner, and he's none too happy about it)...new day.

Latest on the UT/UM bball/ftball series:

Quote:But Memphis is balking at the idea at playing their cross-state rival. Tennessee is dangling football games as a part of any potential deal, and though the Tigers haven’t jumped at the idea, Tennessee is confident they’ll revive the series with Memphis at some point.

http://www.rockytopinsider.com/2014/08/0...he-vols-3/

On scheduling P5s H&H:

Quote:Memphis athletics director Tom Bowen said he doesn't expect the new SEC rule to affect the Tigers' scheduling opportunities, though they already have home-and-home series with UCLA, Ole Miss, Missouri and Kansas on the books for the next few years. Memphis has had an off-and-on relationship with Tennessee, a series that got put on hold when the SEC considered going to a nine-game schedule. Bowen said he hasn't had any substantive discussions recently with Tennessee but gets calls "continually" from Power 5 athletics directors interested in scheduling home-and-home series.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/8698263/

For the record, I'm glad to see these series renewed, but at the same time wish the regional G5 games (ASU and MTSU) could have somehow been kept in the rotation.

(08-04-2014 01:15 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 10:29 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 07:43 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 04:54 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 10:17 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Houston no longer plays 2-for-1s or 3- for-1s.

OU has played Tulsa 13 times since WW2. Only 3 of those were at Tulsa. It will be 11 at Norman, 4 at Tulsa when the current unbalanced scheduling agreement concludes in 2015.

Oklahoma St has hosted 2 of the last 3 vs Tulsa, and has another game set in Stillwater in 2017.

BTW, Oklahoma St ain't no Texas A&M in tradition or fan base. More like Texas Tech.

Houston has a 4-game series scheduled upcoming with Tech. 2 at our place, 2 in Lubbock.

The last six OU/TU games have been 2/1 deals and these games are, without question, a feather in the hat for Tulsa. Much of the credit goes to current OU AD. As one TU Coach said, "this is not only a golden opportunity for our players but we would be publicly ridiculed for turning this deal down by the Oklahoma public." I am in total agreement with the coach on this point.

The 2017 OSU game is a game contracted some time ago but got continually shoved back due primarily to the 9 game B12 conference schedule as OSU had to shed some contracts and push other contracts back.

TU has told OSU that they would like to continue the series but only home and home which OSU, desiring 6/7 home games, has declined wanting TU to agree to 2/1. Essentially, Tulsa has replaced OSU as a regular opponent with 7-Time National Champ Oklahoma.

Not bad for a peanut size school of 4,167 students, the smallest school playing IA football, to not only play IA football but to excel and to regularly play the B12 Conference Contender as well as National Champion contender. TU and OU play 6 games in a 9 year period from 2007 to 2015. What other NonBCS school can say that? To regularly play Michigan &/orOhio State, Southern Cal &/or UCLA, Alabama &/orFlorida?

Last six Tulsa/Oklahoma games:
2007: Oklahoma @TU
2009: TU @Oklahoma
2011: TU @Oklahoma
2013: TU @Oklahoma
2014: Oklahoma @TU
2015: TU @Oklahoma

Tulsa is the only non conference FBS program in the state and Tulsa and North Texas are the only teams within 350 miles of UO that aren't in the Big XII, it shouldn't be a surprise that they play regularly. You can't compare that to a school like Ohio State that has 22 or 23 non conferences programs within a 350 mile radius. There are 7 options in the state of Ohio alone. Totally different.

I am not sure citing Ohio State U and the state of Ohio with its many NonBCS programs is 100% valid. While Ohio State does schedule MAC schools including programs within the state, OSU won't travel to a MAC school. Then there are schools like Illinois which doesn't play NIU, Purdue and Indiana ignore Ball State, North Carolina ignores ECU, Tennessee ignores Memphis, etc.

Not sure these are the best examples as ECU plays state and regional P5s on a regular basis, and Memphis is resuming those types of series as well. In Memphis' case, it's not P5s ignoring G5s. It's the product of a "protect basketball at all costs" mentality that permeated the university for years...new president, new ad, new coaches (except for Pastner, and he's none too happy about it)...new day.

Latest on the UT/UM bball/ftball series:

Quote:But Memphis is balking at the idea at playing their cross-state rival. Tennessee is dangling football games as a part of any potential deal, and though the Tigers haven’t jumped at the idea, Tennessee is confident they’ll revive the series with Memphis at some point.

http://www.rockytopinsider.com/2014/08/0...he-vols-3/

On scheduling P5s H&H:

Quote:Memphis athletics director Tom Bowen said he doesn't expect the new SEC rule to affect the Tigers' scheduling opportunities, though they already have home-and-home series with UCLA, Ole Miss, Missouri and Kansas on the books for the next few years. Memphis has had an off-and-on relationship with Tennessee, a series that got put on hold when the SEC considered going to a nine-game schedule. Bowen said he hasn't had any substantive discussions recently with Tennessee but gets calls "continually" from Power 5 athletics directors interested in scheduling home-and-home series.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...a/8698263/

For the record, I'm glad to see these series renewed, but at the same time wish the regional G5 games (ASU and MTSU) could have somehow been kept in the rotation.

Memphis doesn't want to play Arkansas State. Arkansas state is becoming a very consistant team. A consistant team that could come in and rattle a few year winning streak isn't good for local recruiting. Especially when you recruit the same kids. Neither need a strong regional rivalry as they climb the ladders up!