(07-09-2014 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (07-08-2014 12:01 PM)pesik Wrote: (07-08-2014 11:21 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote: (07-08-2014 11:12 AM)Cali_Cat Wrote: It is just a small factor. The AAC is screwed no matter what, however by chance if UC, UCF or ECU can somehow go undefeated they have a "shot" at the playoff and a good chance at the Access Bowl. Long term it is meaningless...
I think that's right. The Power 5 has already settled the question for football. And if any one of us gets really good there (football) on an on-going basis they could very well get the call up to the big leagues. Otherwise they'll continue to play in the access bowl.
completely disagree with both of you..
everythng in college sports in perception and building on that perception.
SEC was being called the greatest before they were the greatest and built off of that till it became true.
lets say we dominate our OOC, beat 80% of the p5, our perception dramatically increases, our conference game will all be given better time slots, all the media outlets will definitely pay attention.....
The problem I have with this causal chain is that we have powerful recent evidence that it just isn't so: From 2005-2011, The Big East was quite successful on the football field against other AQ conferences. Objective indices like Sagarin show that we were at least as good as the B1G and ACC during that time, arguably better than both. And we often did it on the biggest stages, in BCS bowl games.
And yet ... we were derided as the "Big Least" throughout that whole time. At no point did national media or public perception about the Big East rise in any significant way. We were pretty consistently ridiculed by the media, there were frequent calls to revoke our AQ status, and we never got better TV slots for our games, etc.
So maybe this time around will be different, but ....
wasnt it just a few years back literally 4 of the top 5 big east teams all lost to mac teams? or something like that
most of cincys good season were also on weak ooc (not a shot)
usf had the one year but then completely flopped
i cant think of any big east team that had good OOC vs top P5 besides WVU that actually finished the season strong ( i might be wrong)
and the "big least" was from constant defections, something that is less of a problem now
and keep in mind im talking about where it is we realistically can get to. we will always be no better than the 6th conference not unless the majority of our teams start sprouting 60-80k fans, which isnt happening.
what we are fighting for is where the mid-major/g5 line is drown, behind us or in front of us
right not its infront of us and the biggest factor that will get it behind us is how we handle our OOC.
more important than the access bowl because, the access can make 'individual' teams powers, which is great for a conference to have a power, but did anyone consider the MWC a power when boise had its run? the OOC is the key to perceived depth in the league, and im not talking 1 team but multiple teams on the same year