(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.
Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...
It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.
For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.
I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: If you don't accept God's son.
So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.
And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?
Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.
Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.
Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".
Then you need to learn the difference between personality and spirituality because without God in your life, you don't have spirituality. I'm not here to preach to you and pull you to the good side since I, too, am a sinner, I'm simply answering the questions you keep asking. If you don't want to believe in God then, as a grown man capable of making his own decisions, that's your option, but you know he's there and the opportunity has presented itself. We can't have everything handed to us on a platinum platter. Some things are unattainable without exerting at least SOME effort.
One can have spirituality without God. Feel free to research it.
(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...
It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.
For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.
I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
Yes you did...
"It is simply who they are"
Who is the "they" you're talking about?
I didn't say that, it is what I keep hearing... from your side.
(05-09-2014 03:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote: It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.
For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.
I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
Yes you did...
"It is simply who they are"
Who is the "they" you're talking about?
I didn't say that, it is what I keep hearing... from your side.
ah, more "Us and Them" from the GOPers...
Not all liberals think the same.
Not all conservatives think the same.
If that's what you "keep hearing", that's because it's all you choose to hear.
(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote: So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.
And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?
Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.
Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.
Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".
I'm not here to preach to you and pull you to the good side since I, too, am a sinner, I'm simply answering the questions you keep asking. If you don't want to believe in God then, as a grown man capable of making his own decisions, that's your option, but you know he's there and the opportunity has presented itself. We can't have everything handed to us on a platinum platter. Some things are unattainable without exerting at least SOME effort.
One can have spirituality without God. Feel free to research it.
Ok. Read and respond (if you'd like) to the important part of my post... I took out the other.
(05-09-2014 03:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.
I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
Yes you did...
"It is simply who they are"
Who is the "they" you're talking about?
I didn't say that, it is what I keep hearing... from your side.
ah, more "Us and Them" from the GOPers...
Not all liberals think the same.
Not all conservatives think the same.
If that's what you "keep hearing", that's because it's all you choose to hear.
False. Conservatives argue and debate each other all the time. I have have heated arguments on here with Okla and Torch. I have never seen 2 liberals argue about anything. They fall in line with the party. If they do happen to disagree with something, they keep their mouths shut.
(05-09-2014 03:48 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
Yes you did...
"It is simply who they are"
Who is the "they" you're talking about?
I didn't say that, it is what I keep hearing... from your side.
ah, more "Us and Them" from the GOPers...
Not all liberals think the same.
Not all conservatives think the same.
If that's what you "keep hearing", that's because it's all you choose to hear.
False. Conservatives argue and debate each other all the time. I have have heated arguments on here with Okla and Torch. I have never seen 2 liberals argue about anything. They fall in line with the party. If they do happen to disagree with something, they keep their mouths shut.
The fact you don't watch democratic primaries is not my fault...
(05-09-2014 03:48 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.
Yes you did...
"It is simply who they are"
Who is the "they" you're talking about?
I didn't say that, it is what I keep hearing... from your side.
ah, more "Us and Them" from the GOPers...
Not all liberals think the same.
Not all conservatives think the same.
If that's what you "keep hearing", that's because it's all you choose to hear.
False. Conservatives argue and debate each other all the time. I have have heated arguments on here with Okla and Torch. I have never seen 2 liberals argue about anything. They fall in line with the party. If they do happen to disagree with something, they keep their mouths shut.
I've only seen one liberal get lambasted on here by other liberals and surprisingly, it was john01992 getting verbally beat up for saying that Obama has completely failed as president. He not only got lambasted by libs, but also by Conservatives. Actually I think everyone besides me lambasted him. I hate his political views, but I gave him credit for admitting something no other bleeding heart liberal will dare admit.
(05-09-2014 03:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: being gay or straight is part of who you are, but no one thing defines you. Are you not understanding what I'm saying?
There is no group designated explicitly for heterosexuals. There is a group explicitly designated for homosexuals.
e-harmony, NOM, FRC, and many others...
e-harmony is not just for heterosexuals. I've never even heard of the other two so they can't be very important.
last time i saw e-harmony, it was, they must have lost their lawsuit...
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean they don't exist.
That's very very true, but the fact that I haven't heard of it also means that it hasn't been plastered all over television and major news outlets like the LGBT has.
Imagine the animosity over a Christian Pride Parade.
(05-09-2014 03:54 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: There is no group designated explicitly for heterosexuals. There is a group explicitly designated for homosexuals.
e-harmony, NOM, FRC, and many others...
e-harmony is not just for heterosexuals. I've never even heard of the other two so they can't be very important.
last time i saw e-harmony, it was, they must have lost their lawsuit...
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean they don't exist.
That's very very true, but the fact that I haven't heard of it also means that it hasn't been plastered all over television and major news outlets like the LGBT has.
Imagine the animosity over a Christian Pride Parade.
Yeah, it's called a Christmas Parade...most every town has one.
(05-09-2014 03:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: e-harmony, NOM, FRC, and many others...
e-harmony is not just for heterosexuals. I've never even heard of the other two so they can't be very important.
last time i saw e-harmony, it was, they must have lost their lawsuit...
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean they don't exist.
That's very very true, but the fact that I haven't heard of it also means that it hasn't been plastered all over television and major news outlets like the LGBT has.
Imagine the animosity over a Christian Pride Parade.
Yeah, it's called a Christmas Parade...most every town has one.
Christmas Parades are for everybody... I said Christian Pride Parade. Most people think Christmas is just a time to get presents. Plus I just scrolled through an entire Google Image page of hundreds of Christmas Parade photos and not one of them has anything about God, Jesus, or the true meaning of why Christians celebrate Christmas. Just floats of Santa and Rudolph.
(05-09-2014 03:59 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: e-harmony is not just for heterosexuals. I've never even heard of the other two so they can't be very important.
last time i saw e-harmony, it was, they must have lost their lawsuit...
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean they don't exist.
That's very very true, but the fact that I haven't heard of it also means that it hasn't been plastered all over television and major news outlets like the LGBT has.
Imagine the animosity over a Christian Pride Parade.
Yeah, it's called a Christmas Parade...most every town has one.
Christmas Parades are for everybody... I said Christian Pride Parade. Most people think Christmas is just a time to get presents. Plus I just scrolled through an entire Google Image page of hundreds of Christmas Parade photos and not one of them has anything about God, Jesus, or the true meaning of why Christians celebrate Christmas. Just floats of Santa and Rudolph.
I have always found it interesting that the people most disturbed by the idea of a Heaven, a Hell and admission requirements for both are the ones who believe in neither.
Saying that it's not fair that 1 set of people don't get into Heaven is an absurd argument. The way to Heaven in the Christian faith are plainly spelled out. Any and everyone is eligible to follow those sets of guidelines to gain admittance. What would not be 'fair' would be to allow those who DIDNT follow the guidelines to gain admittance.
If you don't believe there is a Hell, then why are you concerned?
(05-09-2014 04:41 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote: I have always found it interesting that the people most disturbed by the idea of a Heaven, a Hell and admission requirements for both are the ones who believe in neither.
Saying that it's not fair that 1 set of people don't get into Heaven is an absurd argument. The way to Heaven in the Christian faith are plainly spelled out. Any and everyone is eligible to follow those sets of guidelines to gain admittance. What would not be 'fair' would be to allow those who DIDNT follow the guidelines to gain admittance.
If you don't believe there is a Hell, then why are you concerned?
Debating something doesn't mean you're concerned...It simply means you're debating.
(05-09-2014 04:41 PM)Brokeback Flamer Wrote: I have always found it interesting that the people most disturbed by the idea of a Heaven, a Hell and admission requirements for both are the ones who believe in neither.
Saying that it's not fair that 1 set of people don't get into Heaven is an absurd argument. The way to Heaven in the Christian faith are plainly spelled out. Any and everyone is eligible to follow those sets of guidelines to gain admittance. What would not be 'fair' would be to allow those who DIDNT follow the guidelines to gain admittance.
If you don't believe there is a Hell, then why are you concerned?
Your idea of hell is absolutely absurd. Just because YOU (and millions of others) don't believe in a heaven and hell does not mean that they don't exist. Let me speak for those that do believe in Jesus and Heaven. You have a choice, you're a grown man. God doesn't FORCE us to believe in Him, we have free will. He also gives us free will to love good and hate evil. You chose not to believe, we chose to believe.
It also says in the Bible that if our message is not received that we are to wipe the dust from our sandals (that's what they wore in the olden days) and Keep ON Trucking, (todays words, but you get my drift).
Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children". Quote from Mathenis.
You want a God that will let you do what your heart desires without consequences yet you don't or wouldn't want someone to break a law and get away with it here on earth, right? So what makes you think that God being WHO He is would just let you get off free from your sins? Like I said, you have a choice but in the end you will face His justice, like it or not, or whether you believe it or not. Simple concept, really.
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